WOW, never knew Phil Wood made 48 hole hubs... Learn something new every day!
Spicoli - http://www.vintagebmx.com/retro/forks_26_001.htm
according to that page yes... but I am pretty sure that page hasn't been updated in forever, I believe the 20"s are gone.
Full Version: 2007 retro looptail Quad-completes
Greg -
That's the article.
What I want to see from that article though is the little column BMXA always did that had the Haro rendition of the bike with the breakdown component by component, weights, colors, sizes, options, dealer info, etc.
Just curious as to what the stock OG Quad was packin'...do you know what i'm talking about?
That's the article.
What I want to see from that article though is the little column BMXA always did that had the Haro rendition of the bike with the breakdown component by component, weights, colors, sizes, options, dealer info, etc.
Just curious as to what the stock OG Quad was packin'...do you know what i'm talking about?
June 1980 BMXA
I'm putting together a 1980 Looptail Quad, and it is pretty cool to see just how close in design the Retro Loop is to the original! Todd, if you are following this post, did you have and original Quad to go by when you were designing the Retro? A couple of people at the High Springs race thought that I was riding an original Quad. I should have the 80's Quad done by the weekend, and will post some pictures then.
Greg
Greg
Bridge -
Thanks for posting that.
Whose throwing all that mud in the bottom shot that got cut off?
SICK...
Thanks for posting that.
Whose throwing all that mud in the bottom shot that got cut off?
SICK...
That mud bath photo is awesome and did anyone notice the 39-14 gearing? SE did micro gearing waaay before the newschoolers jumped on it
DINGO
DINGO
Yeah Dingo, I was trippin' on that gearing myself...
Greg,
Billy Feamster (from F&S & Peregrine fame in the early 90's) leant me his 1979 Quadangle and 1981 PK Ripper to take over to Asia with me last year. He was completely cool with letting me have his frames for nearly 9 months. But when he gets them back, they will each have a fresh new paint job. And soon enough, official retro SE frame decals....
Billy Feamster (from F&S & Peregrine fame in the early 90's) leant me his 1979 Quadangle and 1981 PK Ripper to take over to Asia with me last year. He was completely cool with letting me have his frames for nearly 9 months. But when he gets them back, they will each have a fresh new paint job. And soon enough, official retro SE frame decals....
That pic cutting mud is the O.M. himself.
Todd,
That's awesome! Stuff like the radius of the loop, and the dropouts are just like the original. I really hope that sales of this frame do well for SE in hopes that the guys in charge will be interested in more Retro projects. Definitely looking forward to the release of the official Retro SE decals too.
Greg
That's awesome! Stuff like the radius of the loop, and the dropouts are just like the original. I really hope that sales of this frame do well for SE in hopes that the guys in charge will be interested in more Retro projects. Definitely looking forward to the release of the official Retro SE decals too.
Greg
Number 45
Parts List as follows:
2007 SE Racing Retro Looptail Quad Angle #45
Supercross Pro LT Forks
DiaTech Sealed Alloy Headset
HeadLock
Retro Pro Neck
Haro Group 1? Pro Bars
AME Tri Grips
Redline Flight II Cranks (180mm)
DK Iron Cross Sprocket (39T)
ACS Claws Freewheel (14T)
Industry 1/8" Chrome Chain
Wellgo Platform Pedals
ProMax Alloy Post
Gran Carrera Arius Special Suede Saddle
Shimano DXR V-Brakes
OG Mathauser Finned SuperBrake Pads
Shimano DXR Brake Lever
Sun-Ringle Super Stock Hubs
Sun-Ringle Rhyno Lite Rims
Maxxis Holy Roller Tires 1.95 F & 1.75 R
SE Camo Pads(Repops I think)
O'neal Proto Plate(See later pics)
Old School Haro Type Numbers
2007 SE Racing Retro Looptail Quad Angle #45
Supercross Pro LT Forks
DiaTech Sealed Alloy Headset
HeadLock
Retro Pro Neck
Haro Group 1? Pro Bars
AME Tri Grips
Redline Flight II Cranks (180mm)
DK Iron Cross Sprocket (39T)
ACS Claws Freewheel (14T)
Industry 1/8" Chrome Chain
Wellgo Platform Pedals
ProMax Alloy Post
Gran Carrera Arius Special Suede Saddle
Shimano DXR V-Brakes
OG Mathauser Finned SuperBrake Pads
Shimano DXR Brake Lever
Sun-Ringle Super Stock Hubs
Sun-Ringle Rhyno Lite Rims
Maxxis Holy Roller Tires 1.95 F & 1.75 R
SE Camo Pads(Repops I think)
O'neal Proto Plate(See later pics)
Old School Haro Type Numbers
That's very sharp, Mayhem!
You must have done your homework to have 39/14 gearing! cheers!
You must have done your homework to have 39/14 gearing! cheers!
I must have missed the 39-14 gearing.
Dean
[ February 21, 2007, 04:02 PM: Message edited by: Deans 35th ]
Dean
[ February 21, 2007, 04:02 PM: Message edited by: Deans 35th ]
Hope it's okay to ask this (possibly dumb) question, but I need some help here...I've got a set of old 1" threaded Bottemas I want to bolt on to the new retro Quad frame, but I want to run either a Tangent Xloc or a Ciari Pro XXL new-tech stem on it.
Can anybody tell how to do that? Do I use some sort of shim or stem adapter thingy, and if so, can anyone point me in that direction as to how to figure that one out?
thanks guys
Can anybody tell how to do that? Do I use some sort of shim or stem adapter thingy, and if so, can anyone point me in that direction as to how to figure that one out?
thanks guys
After talking to Deans35th about this, I guess the best way to word this question is how can I convert from 1" on the fork to 1 1/8" on the frame.
Sure hope I can pull this off...
Sure hope I can pull this off...
Tummler that's exactly what BridgeCityBikes did with his build, except he used SE Standing Gear forks, which were only made in 1" threaded. The forks were no problem, he used a shim inside the head tube I believe.
As for the stem...
I've seen an adapter advertised from some mountain bike stores, they go inside the fork, and tighten with a wedge bolt like an old school stem. But they only have a 1 1/8" head on the top sticking out of the forks, not a real stem. It then allows you to use any 1 1/8" threadless stem on the adapter.
Shims from Dan's Comp for $14.99
http://www.danscomp.com/309031.php?cat=PARTS
Threadless stem adapter from Performance Bicycle for $19.99
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/Profil...&slisearch=true
If I'm following you correctly, these two items *should* do the trick for you. - Tim
As for the stem...
I've seen an adapter advertised from some mountain bike stores, they go inside the fork, and tighten with a wedge bolt like an old school stem. But they only have a 1 1/8" head on the top sticking out of the forks, not a real stem. It then allows you to use any 1 1/8" threadless stem on the adapter.
Shims from Dan's Comp for $14.99
http://www.danscomp.com/309031.php?cat=PARTS
Threadless stem adapter from Performance Bicycle for $19.99
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/Profil...&slisearch=true
If I'm following you correctly, these two items *should* do the trick for you. - Tim
Pretty sure that's what I'm running on my '82 Floval with a Demolition stem on it.
"I'm old and get confused/scared of all these numbers, etc.
Maybe I can get Bridge to chime in on this one.
Thanks so much for input, Sprinter
"I'm old and get confused/scared of all these numbers, etc.
Maybe I can get Bridge to chime in on this one.
Thanks so much for input, Sprinter
Man, these completes are looking sweet. Look forward too seeing more.
this is what you need for the headset:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wheels-Mfg-Headtube-Re...1QQcmdZViewItem
or for threadless forks many manufacturers make headsets that will work.with chris king you may be able to rig something up with a threded fork
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wheels-Mfg-Headtube-Re...1QQcmdZViewItem
or for threadless forks many manufacturers make headsets that will work.with chris king you may be able to rig something up with a threded fork
The conversion issue got quite complicated so I posted a subject in the restore section.
Conversion Info
If you could reply over there, it'll help keep that subject confined to one place.
Here is the pitfall....all of those cheap conversions you see on the Internet are 1" STANDARD conversions, not 1" BMX. I'm too cheap to pay 120 for a headset, though.
Conversion Info
If you could reply over there, it'll help keep that subject confined to one place.
Here is the pitfall....all of those cheap conversions you see on the Internet are 1" STANDARD conversions, not 1" BMX. I'm too cheap to pay 120 for a headset, though.
Thanks for the info, Bridge.
I was searching the forums for this one, but must not have been searching properly.
I'll "take it over there"...thanks!
I was searching the forums for this one, but must not have been searching properly.
I'll "take it over there"...thanks!
waiting s ucks!....lol
i keep coming back to this thread to look at the complete bikes
i keep coming back to this thread to look at the complete bikes
Hello? Bueller?
Are the other 200 quads coming in sometime this year, or are they languishing in a warehouse in SoCal? I've got the last of my parts coming in via UPS tomorrow...
Oh, and Tummler: forget shims and conversions, man. Threaded forks are bunk. Threaded headsets come loose constantly...don't you remember tearing your hands up as a kid twisting them tight while riding all day?
Go threadless and forget it, that's my advice. Aside from the fact that a quill stem is going to weigh that much more.
Are the other 200 quads coming in sometime this year, or are they languishing in a warehouse in SoCal? I've got the last of my parts coming in via UPS tomorrow...
Oh, and Tummler: forget shims and conversions, man. Threaded forks are bunk. Threaded headsets come loose constantly...don't you remember tearing your hands up as a kid twisting them tight while riding all day?
Go threadless and forget it, that's my advice. Aside from the fact that a quill stem is going to weigh that much more.
I'm going with the Bottemas.
I can't see running anything else on it.
I'm not worried about the weight, and if I need to keep it tight, I'll run a headset lock & keep it "old school"...
I "know some (good) people" who may have something up their "sleeve" to help me with the conversion problem...we'll see what happens.
I can't see running anything else on it.
I'm not worried about the weight, and if I need to keep it tight, I'll run a headset lock & keep it "old school"...
I "know some (good) people" who may have something up their "sleeve" to help me with the conversion problem...we'll see what happens.
So, at least the first 50 have shipped, with the rest coming soon, but only 4 completes have been posted?
That means:
a) A good majority aren't building theirs.
B) People are still gathering parts.
or...
c) Quite a few owners aren't members of this site!
If the answer is C, it kinda shoots down the theory that vintagebmx members are the ones fueling the retro market and are it's primary buyers.
So, speak up, who has a frame but hasn't built it up yet? Or better yet, let's start a registry thread.
Hey, Capt! That's a good idea! I think I'll do that.
That means:
a) A good majority aren't building theirs.
B) People are still gathering parts.
or...
c) Quite a few owners aren't members of this site!
If the answer is C, it kinda shoots down the theory that vintagebmx members are the ones fueling the retro market and are it's primary buyers.
So, speak up, who has a frame but hasn't built it up yet? Or better yet, let's start a registry thread.
Hey, Capt! That's a good idea! I think I'll do that.
Or D) They're keeping them NOS in the box for future upswings in pricing!
You can always get some reproduction/retro threadless Bottema's on there. I just rode Dean's last weekend, and he's got Supercross threadless Bottema's on his. Best of both worlds.
His bike is really ****in' sweet for sure.
"I kind of like the headache that comes with (retro) fitting a bike build"...
"I kind of like the headache that comes with (retro) fitting a bike build"...
quote:Was I the only guy who knew how to properly tighten a friggin headset as a kid? I don't think my headset came loose more than once or twice in over 4 YEARS of racing and riding BMX daily...
Threaded headsets come loose constantly...don't you remember tearing your hands up as a kid twisting them tight while riding all day?
Seriously how difficult is it? Large crescent wrench on lock nut, channel locks on adjusting cone, lock them together, and done. If you had problems beyond that, Loc-Tite it. I never had to do that personally...
Yes I DO like the threadless design better, nothing whatsoever to do with the headset coming loose however. I like the stem clamping onto the fork design a LOT better than the little wedge thingy inside the steerer tube holding the old stems in.
I knew people that couldn't keep their bottom bracket or hubs tight to save their lives as well. It was sad.
As for my Quad... I have #40 if there is a registry starting... I don't even have a pair of forks for it yet, no parts whatsoever. It will be built eventually. My priorities right now are getting the new Haro twin top tube retro frame, and a P.K. Ripper when they come out.
I don't have money coming out my ears to build my bikes, so I pick things up when and where I can find them, and when I can afford them. I could just completely gut my Torker (daily rider), and slap all the parts on the Quad, but that's not what it deserves.
Mine actually never came loose either...
First Aussie build.....owned by a non-member. Mine should be done this week, just need a few more parts
Mine came loose occasionally, but not often.
Dugga - Tell the non-member first-AUS build guy to saw off those horrible reflector mounts off his Tuffs,
or E) i'm broke and don't have money to build it up. when i get my income tax check back that should change, but that just got mailed out yesterday......so it's gonna be awhile.
LOL - thanks Tummler, I'll buy him a hacksaw blade
I took tin snips and an old file to mine as soon as I saw those things on mine...
yep those reflector mount things are ugly....mine got sawn off real quick:
I recall Coloredtuffs saying he can sell em without reflector tabs.
I think Ed said that it's a law or something, and they have to be on them to sell them...
That's funny...I thought the reflector mounts on new school tuffs were just little holes drilled in one of the "corners." That was the deal with all those blue tuffs that were put in the wrong mold not too long ago. What's with the hideous reflector tabs?
I also thought that if the wheels weren't on a complete, they could be sold w/out mounts. I mean, you buy, say, an Odyssey pre-built wheel, and it's not coming with a reflector. What gives, Ed?
I also thought that if the wheels weren't on a complete, they could be sold w/out mounts. I mean, you buy, say, an Odyssey pre-built wheel, and it's not coming with a reflector. What gives, Ed?
Here's a first turn sequence shot from the Sunday Main event at High Springs.
I wish I could say that I held onto this lead....................but, I didn't. I really, really, need to work on my endurance!
Greg
I wish I could say that I held onto this lead....................but, I didn't. I really, really, need to work on my endurance!
Greg
Great shots, man! You know it's not about who finishes first, but who's got the COOLEST bike! You win that hands down!
P.S. Congrats on makin' the SE homepage.
[ February 28, 2007, 12:14 AM: Message edited by: Capt. Nemo ]
P.S. Congrats on makin' the SE homepage.
[ February 28, 2007, 12:14 AM: Message edited by: Capt. Nemo ]
Greg,
Thats a sweet sequence
DINGO
Thats a sweet sequence
DINGO
I'll tell you what you DON'T need to work on: having a bad-*** uni. Definitely the only dude at the track w/BW leathers and a Moto III, that's for sure.
Was this a state race or something? If you've got an 8 man main at a local, I envy you. (Heck, there wasn't 8 guys in my main at the Nellis national...)
Was this a state race or something? If you've got an 8 man main at a local, I envy you. (Heck, there wasn't 8 guys in my main at the Nellis national...)
Thanks for the good comments! The pic on the SE site was a cool suprise. That uniform has been a couple of years in the works, but I think it came out excellent. Gooser, that is actually a Bell BMX III; it was a little lighter/smaller, and only had three vents compared to the 4 on the Moto III. I'm working on tricking out a Premier Super BMX helmet right now, although it is too small for me, and I won't be able to race with it. This was at a State Qualifier Race in High Springs, FL. We had Semi's on Saturday, and still had enough for two gates on Sunday. 8 man Main on both days. We had another Qualifier in Orlando in January, and had enough for 8 man Mains on both days. There are currently 22 guys competing in the Florida State Series in 35+ over Nov.! My local racing kind of still blows. It is usually me racing 14 and 15 year olds.
Greg
[ February 28, 2007, 02:33 AM: Message edited by: FL BMX COP ]
Greg
[ February 28, 2007, 02:33 AM: Message edited by: FL BMX COP ]
Here's the video of that race, with me getting spanked in the second turn, and the 3rd and 4th straight!
Greg
Greg
Great video! Man, how many rollers are in that 3rd straight? That's what ends up killin' me. I have a hard time keeping my concentration through the 5 we have at our local track, and by the time I get to them, my legs are rubber. I can't imagine a whole straight of them.
You let a guy with tuffs beat you? Who puts those on a race bike anyway?
Keep at it, you definetly had them the first two straights!
[ February 28, 2007, 09:49 AM: Message edited by: Capt. Nemo ]
You let a guy with tuffs beat you? Who puts those on a race bike anyway?
Keep at it, you definetly had them the first two straights!
[ February 28, 2007, 09:49 AM: Message edited by: Capt. Nemo ]
I'm enjoying the spirit that these retro's are bringing out. The Aussie build has a nice flavor and thanks for sharing the awesome race clip. Your pic on SE's site should be a poster.
Pat Quinn has me all scared about the treacherous new tracks but that one looks REALLY comfortable! I'm envious.
Pat Quinn has me all scared about the treacherous new tracks but that one looks REALLY comfortable! I'm envious.
im the slow guy on the inside gate with my pk and the guy that passed greg with the tuffs was on a ghp retro racing at its finest. greg pm me about what ya want to do about that frame and are you comming to the cape race(my home track)lol
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