Does anyone know anything about this frame i.e. Chromoly to help with value?

what frame is it ,,pictures help

Does it look like this ?



or



or this combined




Speed Unlimited aka Thruster aka early Hutch aka Drag & Rocket Cars , plus whatever else they did in their workshop.......

Cro Mo , nice welds & very well plated.

JB

Just looking , I wonder how many of those frame & handlebar pads had the P in PUCH modified into an F , bitd.
Things from any Factory that left themselves open for abuse & modification were always taken advantage of very quickly down here....

JB

I can't copy and paste the photo, but its on ebay: cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Vintage-Old-School-Puch-Frame-Fork-V-bar_W0QQitemZ160108274259QQihZ006QQcategoryZ64644QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi
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It's not the one that Jet Black is showing. The one pictured above is a bike that I always wanted back in the day.

It's got lug welds all round !!!
Definately not something that would come out of the high performance Thruster shop.

Mass produced , I'm guessing it's a mild steel unit , there dosen't seem to be any lugs for a chainguard welded onto the frame so it was probably bought from a bike shop rather than K Mart (or wherever) when it was new.

I only visited the US a few times in the mid to late 1980's , so my local knowledge of these bikes is minimal , so don't rely on it 100%


JB

There was a Puch at german ebay just few days ago. The welds look like "bubblegum" but i think the decal design is pretty cool. Also the frame looks functional too, i mean i've seen worse considering if it's a low end f&f. Wouldn't mind owning one of these.


-Timo

That is an entry level Puch. Exactly like my first real BMX bike. It was sold in bike shops. It was also sold under the Scorpion name. Scorpion/Puch ebay

Didn't Puch also label an R&R frame in the 70's??

Thanks. I now remember the name. I didn't associate it with Puch.

I just put together a Puch. The frame/fork was used by my brother (84-85?). He traded me the bike for an RC car after he got his driver's license. Don't ask me why I kept it all these years, but it is in such nice condition, I took some of my extra parts and made a complete bike out of it. All OS parts except the tires and grips.

I don't know much about this brand, but if I remember right, we bought the f/f as a set through one of those overstock outlets BITD. Workmanship looks good and obviously the crome has held up well. Took it out and it rides nice too.

[img]http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p17/huskyjerk/IMG_1244.jpg?t=1178563011[/img]

WBL: That is one of the _good_ Puch's , that Speed unlimited made , Patented fork dropouts & all.
It's more likely to be a F+F welded up in the early 1980's (thats where that PUCH Ad dates from) rather than the 84 or 85 vintage you suspect.

Apart from a layback seatpost , you have beefed it up exactly the same way I would have bitd. I would have dropped the allow cranks , fit some DX pedals , bigger bars (GT Pro in my case) & fit a Tuf neck.

That's one very sweet & honest looking early 80's street/race bike you have built up there.

Don't let the PUCH name fool you into thinking the F+F is not a top quality US made frame , with a lot of interesting history behind it. They were making these when Hutch was mostly a mail order bike shop selling other peoples gear.


JB

Jet Black, thanks for the info. It may be an earlier year like you stated, but I don't remember exactly when my brother bought it.

You nailed the parts pretty good.

Bars: GT pro
Stem: Tuff Neck
Crank: Thun cro-moly
Pedals: Shimano DX - now silver after a little paint stripper (not annodized like I thought)
Wheels: Suzue sealed low flange (chrome), chrome spokes, and chrome Araya 7x rims. (wish I had some comp III's)
Elina seat

I never liked layed back seatposts. Even though I'm 6'-1", I still feel good on this bike.

You're right about the quality of this F/F. The welds are really clean and I can't say enough how nice the chrome has held up.

Here's a photo of the Puch in action BITD.

[img]http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p17/huskyjerk/83armory002.jpg?t=1178647382[/img]

Thun 1 piece cranks , now thats an old rarity from waay back. US made bike stuff attracted high import tax tarrifs in the early 1980's , so we never saw 3/4 of the US made stuff on the bike shop shelves for sale , only got to read about new products in magazines like BMXA or Action Now magazine....Apart from the way you pronounced the name was there anything special or differnt about them ?
We had the choice here bitd of either Takagi's or Flite cranks if you wanted strong cranks for your bike.
At $25 vs $275 new , the choice was kind of made for you as a fresh teenager who had just outgrown (broken) his alloy cranks.

The PUCH frame must have had a reasonable length to it , I built up a TJ Thruster & found it waaayy to small to comfortably ride around on , I stand 6ft bare feet.

The frames that came out of the Speed Unlimited workshop , no matter what the brand were always high quality stuff , I think the welders there had pride in all their their work , either welding up a drag/rocket car chasiss down to a "simple" double diamond BMX frame.



They probably did make a Thruster with the PUCH frame geometry , but it wasn't this TJ Thruster 17 1/2
in top tube length is just waay to confined for me to ride, the rear end measures up great , just too far too short in the front....it's just sitting as a frame now , I'm still wondering what to do with it.....

JB

i buy recently this bmx.I know it's a puch but i want to know what model is and when was made.The handlebars,pedals and seat are not original.
http://joint4weed.piczo.com/puch?preview=y...p;st=0&cr=7
Please help me!!!

tange tubing loop tail .magnum is the model

im looking for the twin top tube one cheep mild steel with chainguard tabs . my first new bike 1978
dion