Anyone got the right dimensions of the fork pegs for my 85 RL-20II. I like to reproduce them since they are hard to get by, OS that is.

Anyone???

Thnx,

RL-20II Dutch-style

Mario

[ August 21, 2006, 03:45 PM: Message edited by: RL-20II Dutch-style ]

Here we go...

again...lol

ding,ding,ding round 1 about to begin...

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[ August 21, 2006, 07:15 PM: Message edited by: radlad1 ]

yup! that was the wrong question to ask. let me go get some beer i'll be right back!

I already did it. But before any of you start slammin me, they are NOT, I repeat NOT identical. As you can see, they have no knurling, are rounded on the ends, and use a standard american wrench for installation. They are also made of stainless steel. I have 4 pair left. Pm me if interested.

The nerve of you!!

Here's mine. I made mine out of chromoly American hex stock. You can clearly see the hex is larger. The rusty one in the middle is a factory Redline peg. The other 4 are mine before they were chrome plated. They are not for sale, nor will they EVER be! Sorry! I made both sets for two serious collectors and neither one of them would ever bother to sell them.

Mine aren't the same as the Redlines either.... To be honest, I think mine are much nicer than what Redline had to offer.



[ August 21, 2006, 11:43 PM: Message edited by: Bedlam Bikes ]

nice Bedlam. I don't get all the fuss about making something yourself. I got a set of NOS redline pegs still in the bag, and I don't think the value is hurt with these repro ones, do you? I opted not to do the knurling, that way, there would be no trying to sell these as originals.

What's all the fuss about?? I like to buy some but couldn't find any, so I like to complete my RL-20II with the pegs as close to the original with all good intentions, that is.

If anyone offers some originals I would like to make an offer, if not, I'm going to reproduce them just for me.

Thanks,

Mario

Personally, I have no problem with repro parts as long as they're sold as repro and NOT original. Making them a bit different is one way, and anyone buying parts, regardles of what they are, should be knowledgable before they buy. If I were buying a used car, toy, bike, etc. and didn't know what I was looking at then got "taken" it's my fault.

Think of all the stickers we use...I have a set of the RCRScott StreetBeat sticks on my bike and they're great...I also have a set of AJK GT sticks waiting to be applied.

BUT for some reason these pegs are the ones that create issues within the VBMX community.

Why? There is a possibility that they will some day be sold and resold as originals to people who can't tell the difference. They also put into question all of the real sets on builds or being sold. Even after an honest collector passes on their repro parts will remain and most likely be sold. There are many scenarios...

I think this has been mentioned before, but it bears repeating. All collecting-type hobbies have a problem whith this and I'm glad that ours has that much interest and support. There are people that want parts that can't be found or can't afford them when they can be found. As long as sellers are honest, I don't see a problem. And if buyers don't know the difference, then I guess they aren't out anything either. Actually we're pretty lucky since this is such a tight knit hobby and we all watch each others backs to varying degrees.

That said, people who set out to decieve buyers for a quick buck are rotten. But I would be less worried about people selling repros as the real deal than I would people selling stuff as NOS that isn't, or selling stuff on the bay and never shipping. When you swim in the ocean, you have to realize that there are sharks out there, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't swim.

If I had the money (I don't) I'd buy a RL-20II. Not to collect, I'd want to ride it. I'd have no problem (actually I'd prefer) repro parts like stickers, pegs, etc. as long as they were the same quailty and looked real. It would let me ride while worrying about messing up valuable/irreplacible parts.

Redline fork pegs aren't that rare...but when they do come up they sell for $50-100 depending on condition. If you want to complete your ride with inexpensive homebrew pegs...thats cool. The real deal ain't that hard to find tho....

I saw a pair of the real ones sell for $150.00
I have a pair of real ones that I don't want to ruin or damage anymore than the years already have and I would like a set or 2 of the repops for my Prostyler (Rider) and my RL20II (Rider)
We cannot be responsible for what the next shady character does but I would like to enjoy what I do have w/o going too deep into the pockets to enjoy the ride.
It is interesting to see how this works in different collector lines .
Anyway I need 2 pr IM me if you got'm to spair

For a rider why don't you just cut up an old 24tpi axle and screw on a set of axlepegs? Much more functional. I still have my axle welded steel GT tube rides from bitd out in the garage. Your feet will thank you!

IMO, i can see both sides, those who just want to ride it, and would rather not pay collector prices for a part they could get in a reproduction model. Then of course, as with any collectible, there are purists, who think that any reproduction that too closely resembles the original tants the market with doubt. PERHAPS...someone could devise some sort of registry for reproduction parts, a method to track legitimate repros, a resource for those seeking to authenticate parts or educate themselves on repros that may or may not be available. A helpful guide to aid the perhaps not so knowledgable perspective buyer. Just a thought.

Well, I understand that purists with a couple of showbikes want nothing but the original parts, no doubt about that. I'm restoring a car right now and it's the same thing nothing but original parts if possible. But $100-150,- for a pair of original pegs is a bit steep for parts that once been made for $10-15 and are not extremely rare. Maybe if I'm desperate enough, i'm going to pay that kind of price. It's still a hobby none the less.
I'm not someone to make money out of it, if I'm making some extra parts for people who can't make them theirselves. I will mark them too so it's obvious that they are repro's and no-one sells them as an original.

grtz, Mario

They're not difficult to find, just take the time to search for them. Reproduction parts have and always will be a problem due to sneak thieves.

You can get a decent set for $50, so why take the time reproducing them? If you only need one set, let me guess, you'll reproduce and sell ten sets just to have your set for free? Lame! What about the new hobbyists who get take for a ride when some momo sells the faux pegs as real?

Hate these threads.

those pegs sucked anyway, why repop anything even close to there style ?
Like Pauly said youd be better of making a set out of a axle & axle pegs...
Like TTT said, if you only need 1 set, why waste your time reproducing them, just buy a set.

props for making them easily distinguishable from the originals though, but we will soon "if not already" see repros passed off as originals...I'm glad I already got a couple of sets.

I just won another set off e-bay for $51.00, thats gotta be easier than making them myself

i hope they are "real"

@Twintoptuber: No I'm not going to make a profit out of it to break even, I ment IF someone wants a set I maybe make some extra but then the shipping costs will be to high, I think. Don't like these threads either.
@Spicoli: I'm a metalworker, so it's no effort for me making repro's of anything

Well, looks like there are sets going for $50,-. That's reasonable. Someone got a spare set??

So, I try searching a bit harder then and score some myself.

Some tips??

Thnx, Mario

If someone were to walk into my machine shop here at work and asked to have some of these made, they'd cost a LOT more than $75.00 to have done.
Our billing rate for machine labor is 70.00 an hour for walk-in customers. It'd take at LEAST an hour to have the machinist make a set. Add in the "design" aspect of having me scale up a set and make a blueprint for the machinist and your looking at another $100 or so.
Hell, just to have a factory set re-dipped in chrome is more than $10.00 - and that's if you can even FIND a place thats willing to do a small lot of parts like that.
I won't even get into the cost of ordering 6 feet (min available length of hex stock) in AISI 4140 tool steel.

Buying a set on the Bay is cheaper than hiring someone to make you a custom set.

As you all know from my above pic, I made two sets for close friends. That's all I am making. Please don't even ask me to make another set. The machinist that made mine used a few of his lunch hours doing them for me as a favor.

Some of you may know that I also made some of my own seatposts. Yes - they resemble a SST Command Post in the style of the layback. However, I didn't do the famed internal brace of the SST and mine is made out of BEEFY .08 wall tubing which is twice as thick as the SST. Why did I make them? Because that post is the only post made that lines up the seat and bars on a Trick Star. I always owned SST's as a kid and I want a few of my bikes to have that style of a layback. I can't even find 3 real ones regardless of what they'd cost! I labeled them as "Bedlam Bike Co" seat posts and I don't even want a SST sticker for them. They are MY seatposts and are labeled as such. Pic available upon request...

If you think it's wrong, thats your opinion and I'm fine with it. But think about this: Why was it ok for GT, Haro, and Hutch to all make the same exact style layback?

I'm so glad I'm not a 'Redline' guy. LOL!