Full Version: JAD BMX
I've been keeping my eyes on jad products for a while now and was wondering if anyone can give me a time line and any history. I did a search and oddly nothing showed up. After all it is listed in the forum title.
i scored me some cranks 4 xmas and all i can say is quality i think they where about early 2 mid nineties never had a frame but would like one not much help but this topic needs a reply 
JAD started around 1994. Mike named the company after his kid's first initials; "J" and "A" and threw in the "D" from their last name. Short, sweet, simple and novel ideas are sometimes the best. A few chop-sawed frames, good timing with the goofy design and a catchy name was all it took.
Long story short, the ORIGINAL company made 200 racing frames in both the 20" and the 24" versions. However, not all of them were the same. In fact, very few were built to the same specs. Partly due to...
A ) the frame's evolution from 1" to 1 1/8" headtube designs.
B ) constantly changing dropout designs.
C ) the addition of the brace from the "tube" to the BB on the later model frames.
D ) various cable stop locations.
E ) and finally, optional paint schemes.
I do not know the number count but JAD also made a freestyle/flatland frame and fork combo called The Sherman. These frames had and "enclosed" dropout design as opposed to the groove cut on virtually every other frame in the known world. Another major difference came in the chainstay tubing. Larger ovalized tubes replaced small round tubing for a stiffer, stronger frame. The Shermans command a higher price due to the low number count. These too had variations between them but to what extent? I can't say for sure.
12 mountain bikes were also made and I've been trying to get my hands on one since Mike welded the tubing. They certainly aren't worth as much as their owners think they are when I've tried to buy them in the past. I will admit to a lot of things including; impulse buying, paying too much just to have it and impatience but I am not stupid. So, I will continue looking until that fateful day arrives.
Lastly, they made a handful of parts. Their most popular part was the JAD cranks. These too went through multiple generations.
Prototypes/true 1st gens) pierced and welded chromoly cranks similar in design to S&M Alberts.
1st gens) Aluminum crankarms with a milled backside
2nd gens) Aluminum crankarms with a milled backside and plates that screwed onto the backside. These are the most common.
3rd gens) Aluminum crankarms with a series of drilled depressions for saving weight.
There are a few others out there that may have been one-offs such as the magnesium cranks that are uber-rare.
Other parts are extremely rare but include handlebars in both pro and cruiser sizes, oddly shaped flatland handlebars, super high flanged hubs, freestyle coaster brake low flange hubs, stems, forks and the standard T-shirts and decal sets.
There is a ton of other info as most of their stuff changed with every batch. Warn owns the company now.
Long story short, the ORIGINAL company made 200 racing frames in both the 20" and the 24" versions. However, not all of them were the same. In fact, very few were built to the same specs. Partly due to...
A ) the frame's evolution from 1" to 1 1/8" headtube designs.
B ) constantly changing dropout designs.
C ) the addition of the brace from the "tube" to the BB on the later model frames.
D ) various cable stop locations.
E ) and finally, optional paint schemes.
I do not know the number count but JAD also made a freestyle/flatland frame and fork combo called The Sherman. These frames had and "enclosed" dropout design as opposed to the groove cut on virtually every other frame in the known world. Another major difference came in the chainstay tubing. Larger ovalized tubes replaced small round tubing for a stiffer, stronger frame. The Shermans command a higher price due to the low number count. These too had variations between them but to what extent? I can't say for sure.
12 mountain bikes were also made and I've been trying to get my hands on one since Mike welded the tubing. They certainly aren't worth as much as their owners think they are when I've tried to buy them in the past. I will admit to a lot of things including; impulse buying, paying too much just to have it and impatience but I am not stupid. So, I will continue looking until that fateful day arrives.
Lastly, they made a handful of parts. Their most popular part was the JAD cranks. These too went through multiple generations.
Prototypes/true 1st gens) pierced and welded chromoly cranks similar in design to S&M Alberts.
1st gens) Aluminum crankarms with a milled backside
2nd gens) Aluminum crankarms with a milled backside and plates that screwed onto the backside. These are the most common.
3rd gens) Aluminum crankarms with a series of drilled depressions for saving weight.
There are a few others out there that may have been one-offs such as the magnesium cranks that are uber-rare.
Other parts are extremely rare but include handlebars in both pro and cruiser sizes, oddly shaped flatland handlebars, super high flanged hubs, freestyle coaster brake low flange hubs, stems, forks and the standard T-shirts and decal sets.
There is a ton of other info as most of their stuff changed with every batch. Warn owns the company now.
thats cool seems my cranks are 3rd generation any idea what year they would be
Didn't BMX Products make them? Sorry, my memory is ALL jacked up
The variations in the Shermans were:
1. Flatland version (bolt thru drop outs, seat stays come further towards head tube to make a platform, chain stays are flattened aero tubing, chainstay 990 mounts)
2. Street version (normal drop outs, normal seat stays, flattened aero tubing chainstays and downtube)
BMX Products did not make them. They were all hand built in San Diego. They also made a handful of 26" BMX frames. There are two I know of, one I own and another is/was in Dallas. I have a whole lot of info and pics I can post later if youre interested.
Remember that Mike DiMartino was cutting edge with JAD. He was the first to make the mid style bottom bracket by removing the bb cup and just setting the bearings. The bb shell was machined down, if you look, all of them were slightly tapered. He is one of the nicest guys and was always open to share the history of his company. He would talk with me for hours on the phone answering any questions I had. He quit making the bikes when a company from China called him and offered to build his frames, paint them, and deliver for like $120...which was cheaper than what he was paying for the tubing.
Conor
1. Flatland version (bolt thru drop outs, seat stays come further towards head tube to make a platform, chain stays are flattened aero tubing, chainstay 990 mounts)
2. Street version (normal drop outs, normal seat stays, flattened aero tubing chainstays and downtube)
BMX Products did not make them. They were all hand built in San Diego. They also made a handful of 26" BMX frames. There are two I know of, one I own and another is/was in Dallas. I have a whole lot of info and pics I can post later if youre interested.
Remember that Mike DiMartino was cutting edge with JAD. He was the first to make the mid style bottom bracket by removing the bb cup and just setting the bearings. The bb shell was machined down, if you look, all of them were slightly tapered. He is one of the nicest guys and was always open to share the history of his company. He would talk with me for hours on the phone answering any questions I had. He quit making the bikes when a company from China called him and offered to build his frames, paint them, and deliver for like $120...which was cheaper than what he was paying for the tubing.
Conor
QUOTE (ronoc101 @ Feb 21 2010, 07:00 AM) 
The variations in the Shermans were:
1. Flatland version (bolt thru drop outs, seat stays come further towards head tube to make a platform, chain stays are flattened aero tubing, chainstay 990 mounts)
2. Street version (normal drop outs, normal seat stays, flattened aero tubing chainstays and downtube)
BMX Products did not make them. They were all hand built in San Diego. They also made a handful of 26" BMX frames. There are two I know of, one I own and another is/was in Dallas. I have a whole lot of info and pics I can post later if youre interested.
Remember that Mike DiMartino was cutting edge with JAD. He was the first to make the mid style bottom bracket by removing the bb cup and just setting the bearings. The bb shell was machined down, if you look, all of them were slightly tapered. He is one of the nicest guys and was always open to share the history of his company. He would talk with me for hours on the phone answering any questions I had. He quit making the bikes when a company from China called him and offered to build his frames, paint them, and deliver for like $120...which was cheaper than what he was paying for the tubing.
Conor
1. Flatland version (bolt thru drop outs, seat stays come further towards head tube to make a platform, chain stays are flattened aero tubing, chainstay 990 mounts)
2. Street version (normal drop outs, normal seat stays, flattened aero tubing chainstays and downtube)
BMX Products did not make them. They were all hand built in San Diego. They also made a handful of 26" BMX frames. There are two I know of, one I own and another is/was in Dallas. I have a whole lot of info and pics I can post later if youre interested.
Remember that Mike DiMartino was cutting edge with JAD. He was the first to make the mid style bottom bracket by removing the bb cup and just setting the bearings. The bb shell was machined down, if you look, all of them were slightly tapered. He is one of the nicest guys and was always open to share the history of his company. He would talk with me for hours on the phone answering any questions I had. He quit making the bikes when a company from China called him and offered to build his frames, paint them, and deliver for like $120...which was cheaper than what he was paying for the tubing.
Conor
Agreed. Mike was/is B.A.
I have talked to him several times as well and he was always willing to share his "secrets" and history. He didn't shy away from trying new things and the ideas he set in motion are still being used today. It is a shame that the bike world has evolved into companies that won't take the time to help out, let alone give any advice.
Mid-School BMX has created a serious rift in the bicycle collecting world. The ideas were new and wacky yet they paved the way for everything that is currently in use. Plus, most of the companies not named or owned by GT were cool to work with. Owners like Mike D. are still out there and STILL give their time to talk to us. Proof? Chad Herrington is an active member of this board and he too was/is B.A.
On a side not, did anyone here snag that "street" Sherman that was on eBay last week? I was hoping for it but realized my wife would've killed me if I had another frame sent to the house.
QUOTE (bosshogg @ Feb 21 2010, 05:57 PM)
On a side not, did anyone here snag that "street" Sherman that was on eBay last week? I was hoping for it but realized my wife would've killed me if I had another frame sent to the house.
Dude, there was a GIANT dent, the original finish was trashed, and the dropouts were cut to accept a regular wheel...it was trashed and it went for $500 plus shipping...I hope no one on the forums snagged it...
QUOTE (monocoquemike @ Feb 22 2010, 01:37 AM)
Dude, there was a GIANT dent, the original finish was trashed, and the dropouts were cut to accept a regular wheel...it was trashed and it went for $500 plus shipping...I hope no one on the forums snagged it...
EWWW. I saw the paint was hammered and that it was covered in stickers. I didn't know the dropouts had been cut or that it had a dent in it. Was that in the description? Plus, $500 is a lot to pay for it anyway.
QUOTE (bosshogg @ Feb 16 2010, 01:57 AM)
JAD started around 1994. Mike named the company after his kid's first initials; "J" and "A" and threw in the "D" from their last name. Short, sweet, simple and novel ideas are sometimes the best. A few chop-sawed frames, good timing with the goofy design and a catchy name was all it took.
Long story short, the ORIGINAL company made 200 racing frames in both the 20" and the 24" versions. However, not all of them were the same. In fact, very few were built to the same specs. Partly due to...
A ) the frame's evolution from 1" to 1 1/8" headtube designs.
B ) constantly changing dropout designs.
C ) the addition of the brace from the "tube" to the BB on the later model frames.
D ) various cable stop locations.
E ) and finally, optional paint schemes.
I do not know the number count but JAD also made a freestyle/flatland frame and fork combo called The Sherman. These frames had and "enclosed" dropout design as opposed to the groove cut on virtually every other frame in the known world. Another major difference came in the chainstay tubing. Larger ovalized tubes replaced small round tubing for a stiffer, stronger frame. The Shermans command a higher price due to the low number count. These too had variations between them but to what extent? I can't say for sure.
12 mountain bikes were also made and I've been trying to get my hands on one since Mike welded the tubing. They certainly aren't worth as much as their owners think they are when I've tried to buy them in the past. I will admit to a lot of things including; impulse buying, paying too much just to have it and impatience but I am not stupid. So, I will continue looking until that fateful day arrives.
Lastly, they made a handful of parts. Their most popular part was the JAD cranks. These too went through multiple generations.
Prototypes/true 1st gens) pierced and welded chromoly cranks similar in design to S&M Alberts.
1st gens) Aluminum crankarms with a milled backside
2nd gens) Aluminum crankarms with a milled backside and plates that screwed onto the backside. These are the most common.
3rd gens) Aluminum crankarms with a series of drilled depressions for saving weight.
There are a few others out there that may have been one-offs such as the magnesium cranks that are uber-rare.
Other parts are extremely rare but include handlebars in both pro and cruiser sizes, oddly shaped flatland handlebars, super high flanged hubs, freestyle coaster brake low flange hubs, stems, forks and the standard T-shirts and decal sets.
There is a ton of other info as most of their stuff changed with every batch. Warn owns the company now.
Long story short, the ORIGINAL company made 200 racing frames in both the 20" and the 24" versions. However, not all of them were the same. In fact, very few were built to the same specs. Partly due to...
A ) the frame's evolution from 1" to 1 1/8" headtube designs.
B ) constantly changing dropout designs.
C ) the addition of the brace from the "tube" to the BB on the later model frames.
D ) various cable stop locations.
E ) and finally, optional paint schemes.
I do not know the number count but JAD also made a freestyle/flatland frame and fork combo called The Sherman. These frames had and "enclosed" dropout design as opposed to the groove cut on virtually every other frame in the known world. Another major difference came in the chainstay tubing. Larger ovalized tubes replaced small round tubing for a stiffer, stronger frame. The Shermans command a higher price due to the low number count. These too had variations between them but to what extent? I can't say for sure.
12 mountain bikes were also made and I've been trying to get my hands on one since Mike welded the tubing. They certainly aren't worth as much as their owners think they are when I've tried to buy them in the past. I will admit to a lot of things including; impulse buying, paying too much just to have it and impatience but I am not stupid. So, I will continue looking until that fateful day arrives.
Lastly, they made a handful of parts. Their most popular part was the JAD cranks. These too went through multiple generations.
Prototypes/true 1st gens) pierced and welded chromoly cranks similar in design to S&M Alberts.
1st gens) Aluminum crankarms with a milled backside
2nd gens) Aluminum crankarms with a milled backside and plates that screwed onto the backside. These are the most common.
3rd gens) Aluminum crankarms with a series of drilled depressions for saving weight.
There are a few others out there that may have been one-offs such as the magnesium cranks that are uber-rare.
Other parts are extremely rare but include handlebars in both pro and cruiser sizes, oddly shaped flatland handlebars, super high flanged hubs, freestyle coaster brake low flange hubs, stems, forks and the standard T-shirts and decal sets.
There is a ton of other info as most of their stuff changed with every batch. Warn owns the company now.
You forgot the Magnesium cranks that were 1st gen, I went to Mikes house and bought a set and broke them a week later. Only a few sets were made, they were an ugly purple. Also the replacement alum. set he gave me were not miiled in the back. They were solid and heavy and you needed spindle bolts just like redlines.
QUOTE (bosshogg @ Feb 22 2010, 03:24 AM)
EWWW. I saw the paint was hammered and that it was covered in stickers. I didn't know the dropouts had been cut or that it had a dent in it. Was that in the description? Plus, $500 is a lot to pay for it anyway.
The dent was pictured and mentioned in the description (after a potential buyer asked if there were any dents). I don't think the seller was aware that the dropouts were cut...I'm assuming the buyer didn't eaither.
You think they were cut? Maybe a custom order for regular drops? I dunno, but that is the flatland frame, not the street frame...the seat stays go past the mast creating a platform. And the street version has a downtube the same shape as the chainstays....
here is a pic of my NOS JAD Sherman street frame. I got this a few years ago from Yasser in Singapore. It has bearings pressed in the bb, and may have been shop built, but never ridden and only has marks from being around a shop for years. This is the second Sherman frame I got and NOS to boot. As far as I know, it is the last remaining NOS original JAD around. The bubble wrap is just covering the 990 mounts from shipping.
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be honest...
jad's were chicken lickin' banjo pickin' good ol' country time wank.
jad's were chicken lickin' banjo pickin' good ol' country time wank.
QUOTE (ronoc101 @ Feb 23 2010, 02:51 AM)
You think they were cut? Maybe a custom order for regular drops? I dunno, but that is the flatland frame, not the street frame...the seat stays go past the mast creating a platform. And the street version has a downtube the same shape as the chainstays....
You have more JAD knowledge than me. It looks just like the yellow sherman in the museum to me. It could have been a custom order with normal dropouts, but the more likely scenario is that the guy transferred the wheel set to a different bike and took the fork along with it. Then the guy needed to hack the dropouts to make a wheel work on the frame.
On a side note, have you ever had a sherman with the "slotted" drop outs? Or a sherman fork that would take bolt on hubs? Would bolt on bullseye hubs work with the sherman f/f?
i haven't seen a flatty frame with the slot drops, but anything is possible. ya, i think bullseyes would work fine. ive never had a flatty frame, so im not sure. that is frame ive been searching for forever, and now i hardly look for jad stuff anymore. oh well haha
Are these frames not the same? What am I missing? Is the yellow one the "street" frame or the "flatty" frame?
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/jad/576
Here is the link to the ebay auction for comparison.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/jad/576
Here is the link to the ebay auction for comparison.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT
same frame....flatland frame...just the different drops
QUOTE (ronoc101 @ Feb 24 2010, 11:06 PM)
same frame....flatland frame...just the different drops
Cool, that's what I thought. I think the drops are the same and are modded myself, but I never asked for better pics from the seller since I wasn't interested after I found out it had a huge dent...I guess I should have asked for reference purposes...
I need to get a wheel set laced up and then I can consider my JAD "finished." I can't wait...
Mike did differant things all the time . Mod here and there. I know this is a factory drop out ,not a cut one.I know it is now in the new factory hands! HINT HINT! And for a reason,we plan to produce them also!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Warn
It makes the most sense that the frame ended up in your hands. Paying that price could be justified by the fact that you are planning on re-releasing the flatty frame. If it was just some average Joe collector or a JAD fan I couldn't see paying that price. Thanks for solving the mystery on where it ended up! Any proto pics yet?
Is that one of the protos or one of your rides?
I think its a proto. Its the new frame. The pics is off a friends facebook page
That belongs now to one of my factory riders.Its a 2010 chromoly pro.............
I need a towel!!!!! When will they be available?
The 2010 chromoly frames will be made in 2 weeks. You can contact bmx racing zone in silvis ill to place your order.
QUOTE (warn @ Mar 1 2010, 07:46 AM)
The 2010 chromoly frames will be made in 2 weeks. You can contact bmx racing zone in silvis ill to place your order.
will they ship 2 uk as that frame would sure match my cranks
Prices, sizes, colors? Frame only? Are bars available? Details please! 
QUOTE (monocoquemike @ Mar 1 2010, 11:24 PM)
Prices, sizes, colors? Frame only? Are bars available? Details please!
+1
What is the difference between an original JAD frame made by Mike DiMartino's company, and a new JAD frame made by Warren's? Are there any obvious changes and or markings? Is there any way to tell the difference between the two frames? Im asking this to ensure the integrity of the rarity of the original frames. I have spent many years searching out and collecting these bikes, and seeing that they are being re-released, and bought up and copied, I just want to make sure that there is some sort of difference. Because if not, I might as well get rid of all of what i have before it gets repopped... The new frames look great, but exactly the same (which is good and bad).
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QUOTE (ronoc101 @ Mar 10 2010, 03:07 AM)
What is the difference between an original JAD frame made by Mike DiMartino's company, and a new JAD frame made by Warren's? Are there any obvious changes and or markings? Is there any way to tell the difference between the two frames? Im asking this to ensure the integrity of the rarity of the original frames. I have spent many years searching out and collecting these bikes, and seeing that they are being re-released, and bought up and copied, I just want to make sure that there is some sort of difference. Because if not, I might as well get rid of all of what i have before it gets repopped... The new frames look great, but exactly the same (which is good and bad).
conor
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Good point.
QUOTE (ronoc101 @ Mar 9 2010, 09:07 PM)
What is the difference between an original JAD frame made by Mike DiMartino's company, and a new JAD frame made by Warren's? Are there any obvious changes and or markings? Is there any way to tell the difference between the two frames? Im asking this to ensure the integrity of the rarity of the original frames. I have spent many years searching out and collecting these bikes, and seeing that they are being re-released, and bought up and copied, I just want to make sure that there is some sort of difference. Because if not, I might as well get rid of all of what i have before it gets repopped... The new frames look great, but exactly the same (which is good and bad).
conor
conor
According to the post warren made awhile back, they are supposed to have updated geometry and stuff, maybe newer age tubing to make them lighter? Also I thought there was supposed to be an aluminum frame. Im sure that there will some marking or some number in the serial that will differentiate it from old ones. But if you arent convinced Ill take a Jad frame off you, they should be cheaper now theyre making them again right, lol.
Hold on guys,no need to get in an up roar, everyone is protected. New chromoly frames are THE SAME MATERIAL AND THE SAME GEOMETRY, BUT THE NEW ONES DONT HAVE A SEAT PINCH! AND YES THE ALUMINUM FRAMES ARE BEING TESTED! A new web page will be out soon. Thanks
I thought you were going to change the dropouts...I guess not? 
QUOTE (monocoquemike @ Mar 12 2010, 07:18 AM)
I thought you were going to change the dropouts...I guess not?
The drop outs have been changed.
BTW the the new 2010 release of the JAD rides great. I have ridden the Aluminum and the Chromo Protos and I couldn't ask for more. Warn is going down the right track guys just give hime a chance to prove it.
I know alot of you collectors have a ton of cash tied up in your OG's but rest assured these will be different. And anyone that knows JAD will immediately know what that difference is.
PS: I am not the Factory Rider he has spoken of, but I do know him personally.
So un-knott the britches and give the guy a chance to bring a great product to the table.
Definitely giving him a chance bro...With the pics that have been provided, the drops look very similar to these drops?
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/jad/6139
I know Warren is a good guy, I have purchased parts from him in the past but he came on here looking for a collectors perspective and was asking how he should design the new frames. He said that the drops were going to be different and they look to be the same shape and drilled out just as the ones are in the link above. No one is trying to bust balls here, but if you come on here looking for opinions on bringing back a vintage company, you're going to catch some crap from some people...
I am also not calling you a liar, I am sure that when a JAD collector gets their hands on the frame there will be ways to distinguish them from the originals, but you should be able to look at it and say NO WAY that is a vintage JAD. The fact is, there aren't many of the original frames out there so there are going to be a lot of people (newbies) to the hobby thinking that they are buying a JAD from back in the day when it's really one of the new ones and get taken for collector prices...I am talking about the new frames that get sold 10 years down the road on ebay with bad (or possibly deceptive) pictures and descriptions. I am sure the frames have to be serial numbered some way and if the serial numbers are stamped, that would be great. Most JAD's that I've seen have a hand-etched serial number or none at all.
For example, a while back the bars that Warren made especially for the pit bike that he made were sold on ebay. They were aluminum and JAD never made aluminum bars. But the seller knowing that they were lets call them "reproduction" bars failed to mention that once in the item description. I believe those bars sold for $450 plus shipping. I am assuming that someone purchased them not knowing that they weren't vintage bars. Why else would you pay $450 for something that was simply custom made in a shop that anyone could pay far less to have done today? The reason is that collectors want the original bars from back in the day and they are very hard to find and will command a good price. It just goes to show you that people can pass something that clearly isn't OG off as OG and make a quick buck.
Sure, a lot of people even collectors (myself included) will be interested in the new JAD line-up. It will allow us to go beat on a bike with a vintage feel without having to worry about ruining a piece of bmx history.
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/jad/6139
I know Warren is a good guy, I have purchased parts from him in the past but he came on here looking for a collectors perspective and was asking how he should design the new frames. He said that the drops were going to be different and they look to be the same shape and drilled out just as the ones are in the link above. No one is trying to bust balls here, but if you come on here looking for opinions on bringing back a vintage company, you're going to catch some crap from some people...
I am also not calling you a liar, I am sure that when a JAD collector gets their hands on the frame there will be ways to distinguish them from the originals, but you should be able to look at it and say NO WAY that is a vintage JAD. The fact is, there aren't many of the original frames out there so there are going to be a lot of people (newbies) to the hobby thinking that they are buying a JAD from back in the day when it's really one of the new ones and get taken for collector prices...I am talking about the new frames that get sold 10 years down the road on ebay with bad (or possibly deceptive) pictures and descriptions. I am sure the frames have to be serial numbered some way and if the serial numbers are stamped, that would be great. Most JAD's that I've seen have a hand-etched serial number or none at all.
For example, a while back the bars that Warren made especially for the pit bike that he made were sold on ebay. They were aluminum and JAD never made aluminum bars. But the seller knowing that they were lets call them "reproduction" bars failed to mention that once in the item description. I believe those bars sold for $450 plus shipping. I am assuming that someone purchased them not knowing that they weren't vintage bars. Why else would you pay $450 for something that was simply custom made in a shop that anyone could pay far less to have done today? The reason is that collectors want the original bars from back in the day and they are very hard to find and will command a good price. It just goes to show you that people can pass something that clearly isn't OG off as OG and make a quick buck.
Sure, a lot of people even collectors (myself included) will be interested in the new JAD line-up. It will allow us to go beat on a bike with a vintage feel without having to worry about ruining a piece of bmx history.
QUOTE (monocoquemike @ Mar 21 2010, 10:59 AM)
With the pics that have been provided, the drops look very similar to these drops?
New drops have rows of 2 holes, old drops have rows of 3, according to those pics.
I'm not a JAD collector but I do see some other differences as well, even with the crappy pic.
You are correct about the holes 3 on the old and 2 on the new. Also the new drops you can slide the axles in as the the dropouts are cut out too. But I guess that you can't see that in the pic with the tensioners on. I really can't wait for Warren to call me and tell me my frames ready!!!
QUOTE (90262LeeBMXs @ Mar 22 2010, 11:51 AM)
You are correct about the holes 3 on the old and 2 on the new. Also the new drops you can slide the axles in as the the dropouts are cut out too. But I guess that you can't see that in the pic with the tensioners on. I really can't wait for Warren to call me and tell me my frames ready!!!
()))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I am pretty sure the new Chro-Mo 2010 JAD's do not have any holes in the dropouts.........
I bet the one in the picture posted above was a "Team Bike"
But I suppose I could be wrong
Alright guys, this is my first post on here so be easy on me. I am the guy who is riding the 2010 chromo frame along with the new proto aluminum frame. I just wanted to post to let ya guys know that we are doing everything to make sure the older JAD frames are different than the new ones. One thing we have thought about doing is a lasered out logo on the front of the head tube. We are also working on a serial number system that will most likely be stamped on the frame so that will be another distinct difference. We are working on a website right now as we speak so until its released feel free to message or email me at jeff.holtz@yahoo.com and Ill do my best to answer all the questions as quick as I can. Also I will post a few pics here soon to show some of the differences.
I am the guy who is riding the 2010 chromo frame along with the new proto aluminum frame. I just wanted to post to let ya guys know that we are doing everything to make sure the older JAD frames are different than the new ones. One thing we have thought about doing is a lasered out logo on the front of the head tube. We are also working on a serial number system that will most likely be stamped on the frame so that will be another distinct difference. We are working on a website right now as we speak so until its released feel free to message or email me at jeff.holtz@yahoo.com and Ill do my best to answer all the questions as quick as I can. Also I will post a few pics here soon to show some of the differences.
Welcome to the site! Good info. A shot of the head-tube would be cool...
Mike
Mike
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One thing we have thought about doing is a lasered out logo on the front of the head tube...
Isn't this already being done?
The Jad is a kool bike both old and new. Hope to see one live and up close soon.
Hi guys. I'm not on here very often. Anyways I have a bike with 180mm JAD cranks, with the bolted on plates on the inside. Are they worth more than $100?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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The 2010 chromoly frames will be made in 2 weeks. You can contact bmx racing zone in silvis ill to place your order.
QUOTE (ProConceptsRus @ Mar 28 2010, 01:28 AM)
Hi guys. I'm not on here very often. Anyways I have a bike with 180mm JAD cranks, with the bolted on plates on the inside. Are they worth more than $100?
Thanks.
Thanks.
No. The highest Iv'e ever seen them go for is 25 bucks. Tell you what, I'll give you $50, deal? PM me!!
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If anyone on here is gonna be at the Gator Nationals this weekend in Tampa Ill be down there riding one of the classic chromoly frames that we will be releasing real soon. If ya see me down there feel free to stop me and ask any questions, Ill do what I can to answer them.
Jeff
Jeff
QUOTE (GinjaNinja @ Mar 24 2010, 04:02 PM)
Alright guys, this is my first post on here so be easy on me. I am the guy who is riding the 2010 chromo frame along with the new proto aluminum frame. I just wanted to post to let ya guys know that we are doing everything to make sure the older JAD frames are different than the new ones. One thing we have thought about doing is a lasered out logo on the front of the head tube. We are also working on a serial number system that will most likely be stamped on the frame so that will be another distinct difference. We are working on a website right now as we speak so until its released feel free to message or email me at jeff.holtz@yahoo.com and Ill do my best to answer all the questions as quick as I can. Also I will post a few pics here soon to show some of the differences.
I am the guy who is riding the 2010 chromo frame along with the new proto aluminum frame. I just wanted to post to let ya guys know that we are doing everything to make sure the older JAD frames are different than the new ones. One thing we have thought about doing is a lasered out logo on the front of the head tube. We are also working on a serial number system that will most likely be stamped on the frame so that will be another distinct difference. We are working on a website right now as we speak so until its released feel free to message or email me at jeff.holtz@yahoo.com and Ill do my best to answer all the questions as quick as I can. Also I will post a few pics here soon to show some of the differences.Jeff, Where'd the heck you come from, LOL. GinjaNinja??? That cracks me up! Good luck down in Florida. I guess I was a day late to see you off. BTW what happened to my tires I had semi-stashed? LOL
QUOTE (GinjaNinja @ Apr 8 2010, 03:26 PM)
If anyone on here is gonna be at the Gator Nationals this weekend in Tampa Ill be down there riding one of the classic chromoly frames that we will be releasing real soon. If ya see me down there feel free to stop me and ask any questions, Ill do what I can to answer them.
Jeff
Jeff
What class you riding in down there ? ?
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