It wasn't too long ago that u could pick up a nos pair of blue Hutch tires for $19.95 all day long on Ebay. Now I'm seeing them sell for $150! I forgot who it was? But I remember it was an Ebay store out of Ohio that had "pallets" of those tires. Along with an endless supply of the blue Hi-Caliber seats. Wonder how long before we see those raking in big $$$ too?

Tell me about it. I found a pair of purple Haro Tires for $80. CRAZEEEEE!

Actually, I know that's alot of money, but I wouldn't think that's too bad for NOS Haro tires. Especially in purple. I guess what I'm surprised at is some things that very recently were inexpensive and pretty easy to find, that are now basically extinct and super high in price. Like those blue Hutch tires. I'm even starting to see Dia-Compe bull-dog brakes starting to rise in price.

saying that, there are some prices that have come down. like redline freestyle bars, ive seen them go for as much as $400 and now they are around the $199 mark.

That's funny, I noticed that too. I wonder why the drop? It's not like Redline is making more. Weird how some prices go. I also remember when GT 6 spoke mags were pretty scarce at one time and would bring some decent $$ But now u see them all day long sell for under $100, and sometimes with no bids at all!

Simple supply and demand. I think with the recession, people don't have as much money to spend on vintage BMX parts. When the bidding isn't as competitive, prices don't go as high. And since there aren't as many people looking for these bars right now, sellers are letting them go for whatever they can get.

its always a pain that I am looking for these bars and Ive got no money
I paid a little under $300 for a nos blu hutch stem, I hope that puppy dont go down!!

With prices getting so high on oldschool stuff I rather use modern parts for expendable wearing parts like grips, pedals, brake pads, tires, brake lines, and pegs.

Try finding a clean set of 400 series (aka sugino non pinch) Flights! You would think they are made of solid gold. I blame all the Haro fans!

the prices are way out of control and i will never ever buy that stuff. Its nice to look at and relive old memories but thats what happens when the inmates run the prison!!! You guys are the pushers and the addicts that are fueling your own fire, so for my advice Stop Buying!!

I can definately understand your point. But it's pretty simple, if we don't buy then we don't get, lol. So it's basically damned if u do, and damned if u don't scenario. If I can afford it I'll buy it. Would I prefer prices from 20, even 7yrs. ago? Absolutely. But I know that as time goes by that is growing more unlikely. I'm just hoping that as all of this NOS stuff is being bought up, that the ones buying them and using them on their builds are taking care of them so that if they ever have to be sold again they will still be in nice condition, as well as possibly a little cheaper since they will no longer be NOS.

You write as though this is a zero-sum game with someone winning at the expense of scr3wing someone else. That's not the case. These are voluntary transactions in which one guy provides something another guy wants at a mutually agreed upon price. If someone wants to buy something, it's because he values that part more than the dollars in hand; conversely, if someone sells a part, it means they value the money in hand more than the part they sold. No one if forcing anyone to buy or sell anything. It's really free trade at its finest.

But you are right about one thing -- if people stop buying, there is no market. If there is no market, these parts will become worthless. As I mentioned above, it's all supply and demand.

Price were higher 1.5 to 2 years ago....things are still recovering slowly...

Unless of course you are building an 87 PFT. Prices are way up right now in that market. I paid $225 for power series cranks 2 years ago. Now they are running more than 401's.

the next era of collectors is coming out.

86 and under is slowly starting to lose its ground and the 87 and up into the early mid-school is starting to gain momentum

That will be interesting to see. I'm curious to see what some of the holy grail mid-school items/bikes will be? Are any of u die-hard old school collectors ie; Brian P, Pauly, RL-20II GUY, etc. going to get involved in that market?

87 PFT's are the new 85 Master...tons of them out there and way overpriced by 'collectors'....The cranks/wheelset are arguably the most expensive part of the build...but even those aren't as rare as most would have you believe....

I remember watching AJK win like 5 power series auctions in a rose for between 225 and 250....ya i bidding and i was pissed...lol...the good ole days.

no.... up till 93 i was riding a 85 master. in 94 i was on a 85 quad...

in 95 i got a gt fueler and hated it. i got into mtn biking (which i now own a NOS version of what i had)

in 98 i got back into 20's and i still have that bike.

mid school is cool, but not for me

i would like to get a complet first year (95) fueler and build it like i had it someday though

the only mid school item i have is a threaded S&M Holmes...still need a threaded redneck for it....

I sold my dirt bike and jad....

Yea, Although I did like some of the "early" mid-school frames/graphics, to me they just aren't as special as the 80's stuff. And I say 80's stuff because personally, I consider mid-school to start at 90'. Basically because that's when frame style's as well as the whole scene, really changed. Plus, it was the start of a new decade. I know some of u will disagree and that's cool, because I can see your point, but that's just my personal feeling. But it nice to see that some of u die-hard collector's aren't going to sell out, lol.

The prices will be coming down in the near future for oldschool and midschool items due to us old F$#ks getting to old and dying. the next group that will be receiving extreme inflation is the new school young guys!

My rider is a 93 PFT and that's only because it has no sentimental value to me. If it skyrockets in value I guess I'll have to retire it!

Ups and downs with the prices..

• Set of Kore freestyle bars just went for $90. The freak of all freaks of handlebars went for way more than it's worth in aesthetics.
• A black 1st gen Morales (frame only) which was otherwise nice but had rust spots throughout the original paint went for $230. It was first generation but had second generation decals Oryg gyro and 990's. The early bidding winner was also very determined from the day one which is probably one of the reasons it went as high as it did. I didn't participate but watched it out of curiosity.

Then again, i recently found a late 70's Peugeot CPX-100 all original and complete for $140, to me it was a deal.

But, it's definitely been buyer's market for mid-school too in the past 6 months or so, atleast here in europe. Many 1994-1998 era freestyle frames for very cheap, 1st gen Hoffman Bikes Big Daddy, 1st gen KHE Premium Lagger and a lot of ignored high quality stuff nobody cares about yet.
The magical +10 year-time period seems to be in effect where people are now starting to get rid of stuff they have bought in mid to late 90's. Maybe this is all just my imagination i don't know.

Ok I didn't get to see the end on a 20" Nomura from Ill. end on ebay !!! Who got to see that end and what did it end at??? And who here got that bad boy you lucky ??t??.

1,100 bucks reserve not me for a hutch trickstyler on the bay is insane!! I rode a trickstar 2 for about a month or 2 but quickly gave the frame away, but a trickstyler!! Also a streetbeat for 1,700 and change I always liked the streetbeat but never bought 1 back in the day but 1,700 hun never!

Yes it is a changing of the guard so to speak.

Still prices in general are all over the board, right now.

Hey just remember this the more you pay the more someone will want.

It's an American dream / nightmare .... capitalism.

How can I a peasant @ right now far under 40K (embaressed to say) compete w/ college grads getting 100K ?

That's ok. .... there is always that local score right around the corner for $50 ... ohh yeah !

Patience is a virtue and it keeps your money in your pocket !

Rob

I agree Rob. Like I said earlier, you see a lot of OS stuff and real new school stuff going but a lot of mid/new school stuff just sitting. Time will determine the outcome as people start to look towards this mid/newer school stuff as the OS stuff becomes unavailable or priced out of the reach of the average person.

I was surprised by this last week. Is this for real?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Let's not forget however, that a lot of people right now are desperately trying to sell things for far more than they are worth, sooo they sit there on ebay for weeks, with a ridiculous reserve price, or a buy it now, in the 4 digits. Others see this, and think... hey, this rusted out Haro I had under the porch for 20 years is worth all that money too, and the cycle repeats. There are still a ton of affordable parts out there, as well as frames and forks, you just gotta keep your eyes open and wait for the right one. Last spring, I got basically a complete, minus a few parts, freshly powdered '86 Pro Performer for about 225. I just need to bleach the wheels again, get some tires, a seat, seatpost, pedals and brake cables, and she's done, and will look showroom. My Christmas gift for myself, '87 Schwinn Predator Free Form Pro, same deal... less than $200, and only needed a good scrubbing, greasing, tires and tuffs bleached. It looks almost new right now, and I still have to bleach the wheels again.

There ARE bargains, well, at least as long as you stay away from Hutch stuff. LOL. I don't understand that pricing at all.

I check the bay every couple of days just to remember some parts I used to run back in the day and put a watch on it to see where it ends and its nuts! hopefully 1 day i can get something cheap without all these people blowin it up! And by the way it really gets under my skin that alot of these bike builds people taken pics and showcase these bikes and alot of parts dont belong (example who would put a set of frame standers on a 1989 bike or have some crazy color schemes that dont match the year) To think these posers are driving the prices upward! Sorry if I hurt anybody's feelings I apologize for calling out the posers! Frame standers belong to the years 85-86

Then why did they come stock on GT & Dyno's high end models in 1987 & 1988?

just to get rid of them probably, sometime in 87 I was doin stick bitches cant do em with framestanders. (though i did do em on my friends 88 master)

Fortunately, the prices are not always sky-rocketing, or what do you say if i told you i just "scored" a Peregrine freecoaster for $9.99 from ebay. I was prepared the early bidders and snipers would be all over it but strangely enough i was the only bidder. Maybe i will never receive it, maybe the internals are shot, who knows but the title had the infamous "NOS" description and the photo backs it up.

Then again someone at the museum recently bought a set of rusty 'ol Peregrine Q bars for $110, maybe he wanted them bad, real bad, or maybe he didn't know any better. This hobby is insane sometimes but the deals are out there. Sometimes.

It's pretty amazing to see what some of these parts are fetching. I was looking at a set of Peregrine cranks on ebay... now I know they are pretty rare these days but last time I checked the auction I think they were almost up to $400!

I think I bought the ones I had off a friend for $50 back in the day and they weren't even that great of cranks.

I'm building my master as a fresh rider and not as a museum piece.

Then again, I guess I can be happy the extra set of fixed Master front pegs I priced the other day were going for $125+ and not in as good of shape as the ones I have. As long as I can fetch a good trade for my extra parts I'm stoked. I guess different people are into vintage bmx for many different reasons.

Fortunately, most of us on this board are into it for the right reasons.

Did you catch this one?

>>>>>>>SST Hub<<<<<<<

I know those are crazy rare, lotta cash though.

I got some good deals at a show yesterday. Some white Galindo bars for 50, a nice set of black RX-3 levers for 20, the same levers in white, a little more wear though for 10, lavender Kashimax freestyle seat for 20, Haro Group 1 stem for 50. I went home real happy. I've been wanting a set of those bars forever but they always go pretty high on ebay whenever you can find a set. The seat and white levers will be perfect for my CW that I'm almost done with. I already have some of those levers on there, but my right one's little black locking lever is a little cracked, and more scratched up than the these that I just got. Luckily I got outbid on one of those same seats this afternoon, lol. I was bidding on it but picked up the one yesterday anyway figuring that if I won the one today I'd just use the better of the 2 and sell the other. The one I have is super nice anyway. Luckily I got out bid on it and don't have to hassle with any of that now.

Holy frijoles, that hub ended at $1,625.

I saw that hub when it was in the the 900's craziness. Those peregrine bars were my favorite bars ever (when they were cut down and took I think a inch of each end those bars were awesome) but I cant see spending 110.00 on em or even if they were new for 110.00 the cranks were never a hot item or those gt cranks to bulky and I think the bolt were prone to stripping or arms broke I cant remember! 175mm flights now those are cranks!!

Well, a set of those "big gulp bars" will end in about 4 hours. We shall see where that goes.
Linkylink

My personal opinion about them is, i remember seeing a picture of them in BMX plus mag once and thought what a joke. Curiousity item? yes. Functionality? who knows. Cool? no. Just my opinion, maybe someone loves them.

Internet prices will always, generaly speaking, be higher than local scores.

By now most of us having been doing this hobby for a few years so we know the game.
Buy low locally and sell high on the internet to finance our builds.
Some people just rape the hobby for more....taking it to the next level.

At this stage in the hobby I sell when I simply need the money. Right now generaly people are not
spending crazy amounts on items. It's just the super rare or highly sought after items that go insane
and set new records. This site has the best track record in my book. As far as selling prices, people
are reasoanble for the most part. There is one site in particular which should be renamed "circus of
stars".

I wonder which site that is ?

Why do you guys call peregrine q bars big gulp bars?

We're not. Check out the ebay link in 2Fresh's post a couple posts back. Those are the Big Gulp bars. The crossbar is made to go in a circle, so you can put your 7-11 store fountain drink in it and ride around.

(They just sold for $102.50)

Thats funny!! I was really confused there! 90 bucks for those holy cow thats bannanna's

Yeah, those are pretty funny. I wouldn't mind having a set of those as a goof, but not a $102 goof.

Thou shall never confuse Peregrine Q Bars with Big Gulp bars. There is nothing smiliar in the name let alone design. I am now officially offended now as a Big Qulp... sorry Big Q Bar, ahh dammit, nevermid ha! Yeah 102 for them big gulps is quite a gulp.

Thats 1 of the problems with oldschool midschool newschool and newbees alot of people change their names and buy these parts-bikes that never made a impact in the sport of freestyle. Those big gulp bars never made a impact on the sport, they should be put to rest and never be seen from again but they fetch 102 bucks! Peregrine q bars were big in late 88, in 89 we cut them and shortened them and they were a hot bar. Before the Q was the real haro kneesavers, I think I ran those dyno bars and then the skyway bars to do bar rides, all these were the bars to have! Thats all I can remember can anyone name any other bars that were the s%$T that should actually draw the amazing price of 102.00

LOL Timo. The 11th Commandment.

Jive handles were my favorite grip ever! Now they where hot

I still freak out when i see the price of dc hinge clamps.

Another SST seatpost with 2 days to go at mental $550:

Linkylinky

If you look at the "big picture" then basically people are paying big money for a certain sticker & graphics. The post itself isn't hi-tech by any means with or without the reinforcement plate or can you prove otherwise?
So, it's been proven strong and i am sure it is, then again i still have my basic GT Redline whatever cro-mo posts still in daily use that survived the 90's which was probably much much more abusive to a bike than the 80's ever was.

I say this again, something in this collecting hobby has gone terribly wrong at some point. But, to each its own. Atleast the winning bidder can tell their kids "hey, did you know dad's old bike has a +$500 seatpost"? lol!

Wow.