leftybmxer
Jan 8 2010, 01:04 PM
the one on the top is an original one.
japanesestallion
Feb 8 2010, 05:59 PM
I need a set. I have 1 original, and my kids lost the other one...
Spicoli
Feb 8 2010, 11:06 PM
4130bigr
Feb 9 2010, 12:21 AM
awesome mate, I need a set
wboynj
Feb 11 2010, 08:51 AM
They look great!! Awesome job
Pauly
Feb 11 2010, 08:40 PM
QUOTE (leftybmxer @ Jan 8 2010, 02:04 PM)

the one on the top is an original one.
Mighty proud of yourself aren't you.
crowe-t
Feb 11 2010, 09:29 PM
WOW! They look dead on.
RL-20II Guy
Feb 11 2010, 09:35 PM
Why do the "new" ones look like they are already old? I would suspect that is raw metal, which is already tarnishing, so are you going to have them plated?
hutchhound
Feb 11 2010, 09:45 PM
tisk,tisk,tisk
COLE
Feb 11 2010, 10:49 PM
how did you get the grid marks on them.. nice job
Glen
Feb 12 2010, 04:08 AM
The grid marks is called knurling, but I don't know how its done.
Must be a lathe or some kind of turning machine, I guess.
Good question, here's mine.
What was the finished product originally made from?
Was it round stock and cut down to make the wrench flats?
Or was it square stock turned to make the round peg ends and flats?
What type of machine was used, and did you do it yourself?
Nice job.
If they fit 88 model forks I'd like a pair also.
ANT DOG 3:16
Feb 12 2010, 08:03 AM
Cut lefty some slack, if you knew him like I did you would know he is one of the nicest guys out there, and notice he is not passing them off as originals. What is the problem with someone offering a good product?
Pauly
Feb 12 2010, 08:20 AM
QUOTE (ANT DOG 3:16 @ Feb 12 2010, 09:03 AM)

What is the problem with someone offering a good product?
You've been around long enough to know better Ant.
ANT DOG 3:16
Feb 12 2010, 09:07 AM
My pov if the product is no longer available and as long as they are not selling them as originals what is the harm. I have been around a long time. But I have never been one to build era correct bikes. I build it I ride it
ANT DOG 3:16
Feb 12 2010, 09:16 AM
It's not like these are still made and besides it's only a pair of pegs. But I geuss I have a different view than others. Like I said I race and beat the crap out of my bikes, people think I am crazy for racing my amtrac, but why would I buy something and not use it?
leftybmxer
Feb 12 2010, 10:54 AM
thanks for having my back antdog.i had these made. they are raw steel,and i could not find a place to get them chromed and still sell them for a far price.
What is the problem with someone offering a good product? I'm not going to start to sell a boat load of them, i just had a couple of extras made when i had mine done.
so i take it when the next part that i will have repop'd i will not post on here.
Pauly what are you saying...You've been around long enough to know better Ant.
this is why i was thinking on not even going to post the pegs. whatever dude.
again,thanks ANTDOG for having my back.
Pauly
Feb 12 2010, 11:11 AM
What is the point of the original post? You're trying to sell them right? or are you trying to instigate? You obviously made a "few extras" to sell. So what if you're not trying to pass them off as originals. What happens is you sell them then the next person passes them off as originals. The original product has effectively been devalued. I've seen a bunch selling on ebay lately being passed as originals. Why should I care any more? Opportunists have been killing collecting hobbies since forever. Thanks for assisting!
leftybmxer
Feb 12 2010, 12:29 PM
thats what my point of my original post is about.just like it says..... had some redline rl 20II fork pegs made.i will not pass them off as originals because they are not.i just posted a freakin pic to show what i had made for my build.i'm not having anymore of them made.
yes i had extras made,it was cheaper to have more than one set made,so i did. am i selling them,i WAS going to pay the price to sell on here,but after seeing the jr high drama,i'm not.WHO CARES WHAT IS ON EBAY SELLING.i don't
cry to them about it.
Opportunists have been killing collecting hobbies since forever. Thanks for assisting! YOUR WELCOME
so i take it that HUTCH should stop selling the new line of products? or redline should stop selling repop sticker kits?
and all these people making repop stickers should stop? whatever man.
I will break it down so you can understand.....I had a bad set of redline fork pegs. i wanted a good set for my rl 20II build. i could not find any.i asked around and found a place that said that they could make them if they had one to go by.i was going to only have 1 set made,but it was cheaper to have a couple of sets made so I did.
then i just posted up a pic. then all the day care crying started.
Plain And Simple..... don't like what you see on my post or any other members post,move on.
i'm not on this site to get bashed on,but to have a good time,if i wanted a bunch of crying i would go to a day care. get over it and move on.
I have said my piece. so i'm done with this drama post. later.
Pauly
Feb 12 2010, 12:41 PM
bye bye.
leftybmxer
Feb 12 2010, 12:51 PM
no love loss here.
Pauly
Feb 12 2010, 12:56 PM
I think the site you're looking for is bmxmuseum.com
leftybmxer
Feb 12 2010, 12:59 PM
thats why i came BACK to this site was to get away from it,but its on here also.
rockabillyjay
Feb 12 2010, 02:10 PM
..perhaps you could stamp something in one of the wrench flats to differentiate them from originals..a stamping die set is less than $10 at a place like Harbor Feight tools..that way you could run them with the stamping down and out of site, and keep them from being sold as originals in the future..win-win!
leftybmxer
Feb 12 2010, 03:02 PM
good one jay. think about that one....if i have anymore made.
rockabillyjay
Feb 12 2010, 04:18 PM
..it's a pretty good way to keep them from being mistaken or mis-represented as real
Just a hammer and one of these sets will do that and keep the anti - repop purists ( myself included

) a bit happier!
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/disp...temnumber=90124
Spicoli
Feb 12 2010, 11:49 PM
I'm just curious as to why they were made so close to the originals ??? They could have been made in 100 dif styles, and been easily distinguished from OG...heck, you could have made them more functional, and better looking than the OG...it aint like the RL pegs were any good to begin with ?? Or you could have just threaded some axle pegs on like we did bitd...re-popping collectables, no matter how insignificant it may seem is bad for the hobby...No drama here, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth !!!
As far as Hutch...I'm guessing JDB dropped some pretty big coin to purchase ownership rights to the brand, and I believe the new Hutch stuff is easily identified from the old stuff...could be wrong because I've yet to see the new stuff, but JDB seems like a straight shooter to me, and wouldnt want his stuff passed as vintage products...
As for decals...most if not all of the quality "authorized" re-pops are easily identified from originals...of course their have been some sheisters in this area also...
I aint bashing you either...Its not like your gonna get rich selling re pop pegs, so I get the fact that you arent doing it for the $$...I just think it was a bad move from a collector standpoint. I still remember the Haro Sport I bought a few years back that had fake Haro forks, sure they looked like Haro...I wasnt happy
race_inc
Feb 13 2010, 08:22 AM
I don't know if it's the picture or what, but the ones lefty made do look different than the originals. His look longer, the knurling is different and the wrench flats are bigger.
AdrenalineJunkieRacing
Feb 14 2010, 01:57 PM
Damn guys, all he wanted was a set for his RL20-II and the machine shop made it a better deal if he got multiple sets. (Yes, i know lefty and what he had to pay to get these made.) It was was actually a little cheaper in the long run to have mutiple sets made due to the set-up costs and everything. Also, race_inc you're right that the newer ones are a little different than the originals. The knurling isn't as tight (which will probably give a little better grip for those that ride theres still), and if i remember right they're also a little bigger around. So, you guys need to just relax and quit jumping down someone's throat every time you think they're looking to cash in on re-popping crap. All lefty wanted was to get the pegs for his bike and offer the extras to anyone that was interested.
Rich Soryu
Feb 14 2010, 02:43 PM
QUOTE (race_inc @ Feb 13 2010, 07:22 AM)

I don't know if it's the picture or what, but the ones lefty made do look different than the originals. His look longer, the knurling is different and the wrench flats are bigger.
I definately see a difference as well.
leftybmxer
Feb 14 2010, 04:36 PM
its just the pic. the size are the same. thats what i thought after i posted the pic,but they are all the same size, original one and the repop'd ones. crazy.
race_inc
Feb 14 2010, 05:43 PM
Well even still, they do look different.
leftybmxer
Feb 14 2010, 07:54 PM
i know. i just went and sized them up. all the same. must be the pic.
4130bigr
Feb 19 2010, 04:26 AM
lookin forward to seeing a set of these on my rl20, thanks Lefty
justlive
Feb 19 2010, 08:11 AM
Wow. I haven't looked at this thread since it was first posted. I'm really surprised at all of the drama this hobby has turned into over the last couple of years. We're talking about bicycles here, not automobiles, or sports memorialbilia, etc. In ten, or even five years from now how sought after does anyone really think this stuff will be? I mean it's not some 50 or 60 yr. old guy bidding this stuff up on ebay, it's us! The majority of us are in our late 30's-early 40's. Once we've built up everything we want, or once we get to the age where we've gotten riding/collecting 20inch bikes out of our system, then who do u think is going to be buying this stuff up for mad money?? This guy just wanted to make a set of pegs for his bike that he was restoring. He even showed that they weren't OG in his very first sentence in this thread. Now I know that alot of u are very serious in your collecting with all the "keep it as a survivor", "don't re-pop", etc. But come on guys. This is supposed to be fun. All we're really trying to do is relive a little of our youth while we still can. I'm sure the only thing on this guys mind when starting this post was the excitement of showing all of us how great his pegs turned out and that it was alot cheaper alternative to trying to bid on and hope to win, or even try and find, an original set of pegs. As well as less time consuming. And for all u "purists". If u guys are truly collectors, and know your stuff then why are u so worried about the fakes popping up? Just don't buy them. If u know your stuff then u won't get fooled by the ones who are trying to trick u. And if u can't tell the difference then what is the problem anyway?? Think about it

...In the end we're all just trying to have a little fun and build/ride the bikes the way we wanted to bitd. And we don't have a whole lot of time left to do that.
justlive
Feb 19 2010, 08:23 AM
One more thing. Please don't think that I'm ripping into anyone in particular in this thread, or board for that matter. I've had dealings with a few in this thread and ALOT of u on the board over the years. And everyone I've dealt with (for the most part

) are really good people. This is a messag board and 90% of the stuff posted on here is opinion. Just like my post above. We have to remember why we come here. At the end of the day it's all about fun. It's a place to come to get away from the everyday stresses we all have in our lives. We're not curing cancer here.
Brian P
Feb 20 2010, 07:16 PM
QUOTE (justlive @ Feb 19 2010, 09:11 AM)

And for all u "purists". If u guys are truly collectors, and know your stuff then why are u so worried about the fakes popping up? Just don't buy them. If u know your stuff then u won't get fooled by the ones who are trying to trick u. And if u can't tell the difference then what is the problem anyway?? Think about it

jack just finds this hobby and wants to build his dream bike... an 86 rl20II
he finds a frame and then a fork, now all he needs is a set of pegs, he sees all the (NOS) ones on ebay in a package for 200.00 dollars. he sees these being sold on ebay as rl20II pegs for 150.00 and grabs them thinking he got a great deal
jack wanted a real redline because thats what he had as a kid..... he goes to a show with his bike where he meets some other collectors and realizes that the pegs he bought are fake, now he is fed up and disappointed, sells what he has at a loss only to never come back.
he is a newbie at the hobby and got ripped by someone who bought fake pegs and flipped 'em on ebay, and could have been an asset to the community.
if you cant see a problem with that, i dont know what else to tell you..... put yourself in those shoes.
justlive
Feb 20 2010, 08:14 PM
I understand your point. And I don't want to see anyone get ripped off. I guess I'm just of the mindset that alot of us can't afford to buy a $150 pair of pegs. And that this is just a nice alternative for someone who wants to build a nice bike that resembles one they had bitd. My post above was more directed to the hardcore collectors that know what they are bidding on/buying, and shouldn't be worried about the repops showing up because they know what to look for. It's really the same as restoring an antique or muscle car. The market is flooded with repro parts. U just have to do your homework. As is the case should be with any type of collecting/restoring venture. And that's what makes places like this great because if we don't know we can ask.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please
click here.