QUOTE (bob67 @ Nov 3 2009, 05:11 AM)

so did it ride like a 20" with the high bottom bracket?
it's hard to say what exactly that means. for a short to medium height rider that feels perfectly comfortable on a 20", then sure, a high bb on a cruiser is great. but for a tall/older rider who likes cruisers in general because of being more "in" the bike than above it (and maybe has always felt a some low back strain hunching on a 20"), then just IMO, the Model C is not the answer. i'd rather ride my S&M Widowmaker.
to design a cruiser for park riding (for guys who actually like cruisers in general), i say raise the bb just enough so that it doesn't hit the coping during 50/50 grinds. so, raise bb height from 11.75" up to a 12.25" or maybe 12.75" at the most.
then, the other thing that can make a cruiser "feel like a 20" is to make the chainstay length the shortest possible. the Sunday Model C has 15" slammed.
but check out this GREG MELMS custom. 13.75" cs. yes 13.75 on a cruiser !!!


i actually rode this bike at Ray's MTB park a year ago.
very quick.
for more on MELMS see
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187985i rode the We The People Avenue 24" (2009) and i thought it felt rad. easy to manual, easy to 180 and 360.. etc.

thw 2010 Avenue, website says 'now called the Avenger' has a Sunday-style high bb. not sure how high though:

i hope this is not a trend where every street/park cruiser goes with 13.75" just because Sunday did it. 12.75" would be a good middle ground..... whatever people like though....