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doug118
well I was riding at my local skatepark with my race bike




I got a little sketchy and instead of holding on and falling on my face I threw my bike and it bounced about 4 feet in the air and the only thing that broke was my pedal and my seat moved

I'm not really sure why people don't trust carbon parts. i know I trust mine 1000% biggrin.gif
Lonewolf
biggrin.gif Good to hear man. I hear there is a skate park 22 miles from me.
FNSRACING
Land nose down on them it will change you mind.
doug118
i have plenty of times
FMFBMX
Well my race bike does not have carbon forks but it does have carbon SPIN rims. Everyone tells me not to land crooked cause they will break. So far I have not broken them.
nk1j
smooth smooth...... if you ride hard it's not a good idea
Brandon002
Carbon can develop hairline cracks that can lead to failure. Riding Carbon anything at a skatepark is a bad, bad idea.
woodybmx86
Dude, you are just being hardnose and foolhardy. go ahead, ride it. Cool. If you dont break em, great. "But that won't change the fact that Carbon Fiber forks CANNOT withstand the repeated abuse Chromoly forks can. Hands down. AND, to top it all off, when chromoly forks fail, then bend... most of the time. Carbon and Aluminum fail catastrophically, they BREAK off.

By the way, this FACT is a known one for years by those who sell carbon forks. In fact, someone in the know... by that I mean just took over as product manager of a company that almost is exclusivley carbon and aluminum forks... visited the production company in Taiwan, where they have machines who test forks day in and day out... and he told me about it.

Call a company that makes forks like that, and ask them if you should run their forks in skateparks and trails. See what the answer is. Then get back to us here....
doug118
QUOTE (woodybmx86 @ Sep 27 2009, 02:08 PM) *
Dude, you are just being hardnose and foolhardy. go ahead, ride it. Cool. If you dont break em, great. "But that won't change the fact that Carbon Fiber forks CANNOT withstand the repeated abuse Chromoly forks can. Hands down. AND, to top it all off, when chromoly forks fail, then bend... most of the time. Carbon and Aluminum fail catastrophically, they BREAK off.

By the way, this FACT is a known one for years by those who sell carbon forks. In fact, someone in the know... by that I mean just took over as product manager of a company that almost is exclusivley carbon and aluminum forks... visited the production company in Taiwan, where they have machines who test forks day in and day out... and he told me about it.

Call a company that makes forks like that, and ask them if you should run their forks in skateparks and trails. See what the answer is. Then get back to us here....



someone's cranky!!! thanks for the good laugh.

you would have to be a retard not to know that carbon doesn't bend, instead it snaps.


and do me a HUGE favor, show me where I said carbon can withstand more abuse then chromoly.


I look at it this way, I will never ever break these riding the way I do on a track or trails. the only time they might snap is when I come up very short on a large jump, and even if I had chromoly forks, I would have fallen hard anyways so whats it matter?

yeah riding skateparks if pushing their limits but are you going to give me $2200 to duplicate my bike to run chromoly forks just so I can ride parks? NOPE. so the day I snap these forks is the day I will call Answer and order another set good3.gif and if I happen to snap them while riding a skatepark, then maybe I'll rethink using them at skateparks
Brandon002
Again I repeat, those forks may have hairline cracks that you can't even see. What you think is a fully functional fork could be a ticking time bomb. They recommend you have the forks examined after any abuse or crashes to make sure they aren't set to fail. You should also replace Carbon forks every other season, if you're a smooth rider.

I just don't see the advantage to Carbon forks. They cost more, don't weigh much less then supercross or S&M race forks and are not going to take the abuse a chromoly fork would. The cost/risk/benefit just doesn't add up in my book.
woodybmx86
Not cranky here... lol. It just seems like every other month I read someone talking up carbon forks again... and to me, they are just stupid. I have seen WAAAAAY to many snap off at a moments notice... and I have seen a couple bronken jaws, and one broken neck. I personally think it is not a smart idea to mess with forks, above all else on the bike.

I didn't say you said anything about carbon being stronger than chromo, but you did question why people dont trust carbon... and that implies that they trust something else, lol. So basically you were asking whats the big deal, I trust my carbons to hold up, why dont you guys? Hence I posted reasons.

ANd there is no gray area on this, we all know that.
you dont have to spend 2,200 on a new bike... you just have to spend a hundred bucks, yep, almost half what you paid for those carbon ones... and get a set of chromo forks. oh, and you can still save a couple ounces OVER most of the cardboard forks, if you look hard enough... maybe Supercross, DK, etc... yeah, about 26 ounces, vs 29 for carbon forks... hmmmm. lol.

or you could just compromise, and get one of the many 30 to 31 ounce forks on the market... dozens of them. so is that 1 or 2 ounces on the fork worth the extra almost 100 bucks, as well as not being able to ride as hard as you coud?

Your call. lol.

I dont really care, by teh way.... ride what you want.
doug118
I actually have 2 sets of Odyssey race forks sitting next to me. I would LOVE to get the Supercross LT forks but I weight 200 pounds and the 175lb weight limit is pushing it. but then again I do ride carbon at skateparks so who knows



but to be honest, I think you just persueded me to switch back to my odyssey forks from this one statement..

QUOTE (woodybmx86 @ Sep 28 2009, 08:38 AM) *
and I have seen a couple bronken jaws, and one broken neck.

Kelly B
I thought this thread was describing what it was like at Woodward this past weekend.
doug118
just switched back to my Odyssey forks. I bought the carbon ones just to have them and they withstood some SERIOUS abuse. I just checked over them for about 20 minutes and couldn't find a single thing wrong. I even broke out the magnifying glass for a few spots that I thought were cracks and they weren't.

I guess I'll be keeping these in the closest for a long time along with my chris king hubs since no one wants to buy them.

I just really wanted to see what it was like to ride a top dollar race bike with carbon forks, chris king wheels, etc, and I must say I didn't notice much difference from switching from odyssey forks & odyssey cassette hub to the scythes & chris king hubs and then back to the odyssey parts


with the chris king hubs priced at ~$500 a set, I really prefer the $89 odyssey race cassete rear hub with $100 profile mini front hub.
crammins
i have bent several cromo forks, I aint ever broke carbons, but I'm tryin! I am NOT a smooth rider and am a good 230
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