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3rd gear
I won't buy new hutch stuff so I am glad I got a few sets of these back in Nov. before he was stopped...

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race_inc
Those are beautiful!!!
kcmobmx
those look very nice. why wouldn't you buy any of the new-school Hutch stuff? just curious...
3rd gear
It's not "NEW SCHOOL" it's reproduced Old School, if he made something that looks different from what was made 25 years ago I might reconsider my thinking. I own originals of everyrthing he makes.
tread
Why was he stopped? They don't say Hutch on them!
3rd gear
Do you really have to ask the reason why?
tread
scratch_one-s_head.gif i've been turned off on the whole hutch and what ever else is under that umbrella!
sack
Gary does top notch work. And the prices are not bad either.
3rd gear
He does beautiful work, and the Aussie chrome is amazing.
monkeybiscuits
Dingo (over in Limey) had some of those off of Gary - top notch, 10X better than the Profile retro's I bought, shame he's not makin em anymore !
kcmobmx
QUOTE (3rd gear @ Jul 10 2009, 02:02 PM) *
It's not "NEW SCHOOL" it's reproduced Old School, if he made something that looks different from what was made 25 years ago I might reconsider my thinking. I own originals of everyrthing he makes.


aren't the Johnny Chopper cranks reproduced old-school as well? what makes them better than the Hutch branded ones? don't they both use the Profile 48 splined spindle? I am cornfused...
Iwantotbuyahutch
I also can't understand the allergy some of you guys have towards the Hutch remake gear.

Why would you prefer to buy these off of Gary when they are clearly Hutch knock off's, and then say you won't buy Hutch gear because they are knock off's? What's the difference? The price you pay will probably end up not much different by the time you buy the bottom bracket, spindle and power disk! huh.gif

By the way, Gary does fantastic work and he is a great bloke to boot! wink.gif
monkeybiscuits
whats the cost?

Gary's JC Cranks v JDB's Hutch Repro's ?

your answer may lie within ?
kcmobmx
the Johnny Chopper site doesn't list the Hutchesque cranks anymore but their 2 other styles range from 199-235.00 (add 35.00 for chrome) for the arms. the Hutch brand cranks (yet to be released) are said to be in the 600.00 price range but will include all hardware (Ti hardware and spindle) and the power disc. by the time you add all the hardware with the JC cranks they are in the same price range...
kcmobmx
I will say this, I think Hutch should offer their cranksets with the option of buying arms only.
Walter Holda
QUOTE (race_inc @ Jul 10 2009, 05:08 PM) *
Those are beautiful!!!


Stunning!!
3rd gear
Who do you think is making the Hutch cranks? With less profit ofcourse atleast they will be the same quality . Don't u people get it?
sack
My stroker cranks were 200 shipped for the arms only, but compared to profiles it was worth every penny.

I don't think price has been the problem with the perception of Hutch stuff, it has been the method.
race_inc
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Who do you think is making the Hutch cranks? With less profit ofcourse atleast they will be the same quality . Don't u people get it?


I don't think they do. I'm actually glad Scott chose not to jump the shark and do these for JDB.
monkeybiscuits
I paid 50 GBP for my DX Cranks ! never spent more than 200 GBP on a set of full wraps either, not a big fan of Aerospeeds now or bitd, i've now got Profile's on my Trickstar, good enough for me....

600 bucks for a set of repro cranks is still a lot of cash, especially in a falling market!



nintendoninja
its rumored that johnny chopper is the one who will be making the new hutch cranks...
same as the jc's but add 400 bucks for the hutch logo... thanks jdb laugh.gif
Iwantotbuyahutch
Rumour is untrue and you need to learn how to use a calculator! wink.gif
bmcg5712
QUOTE (kcmobmx @ Jul 10 2009, 10:34 PM) *
the Johnny Chopper site doesn't list the Hutchesque cranks anymore but their 2 other styles range from 199-235.00 (add 35.00 for chrome) for the arms. the Hutch brand cranks (yet to be released) are said to be in the 600.00 price range but will include all hardware (Ti hardware and spindle) and the power disc. by the time you add all the hardware with the JC cranks they are in the same price range...


Gary's sh!tz is the bomb and great prices to boot. I have a set of stroker cranks and a set of profile boxes - strokers beat the profiles hands down. Also, Gary will do custom rides - I want him to build a ride for my son - h*t*h like.

Brian
sack
How about pics of your son's bike?


QUOTE (bmcg5712 @ Jul 11 2009, 10:30 AM) *
Gary's sh!tz is the bomb and great prices to boot. I have a set of stroker cranks and a set of profile boxes - strokers beat the profiles hands down. Also, Gary will do custom rides - I want him to build a ride for my son - h*t*h like.

Brian

CHECKEREDxVANS72
600 dollars for chinese made hutch cranks, i dont think so. you make this in the good old usa then it might be worth buying. i hope john makes all of his retro hutch stuff in the usa, but i have a bad feeling that this will not happen, and thats a real shame!!
bmcg5712
QUOTE (sack @ Jul 11 2009, 03:11 PM) *
How about pics of your son's bike?


Sack:

Man, I seem to be misleading you - I have had many talks w/ Gary about building a BMX racerish raide for my son. OMG, did I just stick Hutch Hilter on me ohmy.gif
sack
I am getting ready to build a mini for my 5 yearold daughter, and I was wanting something retro. Don't know about the hutch hitler thing, but I don't think I'm on his christmas card list.
bmcg5712
QUOTE (sack @ Jul 12 2009, 03:38 AM) *
I am getting ready to build a mini for my 5 yearold daughter, and I was wanting something retro. Don't know about the hutch hitler thing, but I don't think I'm on his christmas card list.



A while back in one of these threads I mention that JDB make retro stems like Kappa. He thought I was making them. The dude actucally called me at work - WTF. I use the hilter term loosely - don't want to offended anyone - sorry.
sack
That's cool
COASTY
QUOTE (CHECKEREDxVANS72 @ Jul 12 2009, 11:43 AM) *
600 dollars for chinese made hutch cranks, i dont think so. you make this in the good old usa then it might be worth buying. i hope john makes all of his retro hutch stuff in the usa, but i have a bad feeling that this will not happen, and thats a real shame!!

I'm fairly certain the Hutch cranks aren't made in China. As for the rest of the stuff? Who knows.
nintendoninja
i believe the hutch cranks will be made in australia wink.gif
diesel
Here's my set of JC cranks:



Beautiful attention to detail, non of the ground down welds and polishing issues that some of the manufactures suffered.

Chromed in the UK though.
SAF
I'm reading this thread and wondering what the issue is here. If you think the Hutch cranks are too expensive, don't buy them. Simple, right? smile.gif
Porkchopzz4
QUOTE (nintendoninja @ Jul 11 2009, 07:23 AM) *
its rumored that johnny chopper is the one who will be making the new hutch cranks...
same as the jc's but add 400 bucks for the hutch logo... thanks jdb laugh.gif


It is rumored? Yeah, because you started the rumor. And +1 on learning to use a calculator.

It would be nice to make them in the US... but the only manufacturer that I know of in the US that could get up to speed quickly would be Profile (and why would they make a competitor's cranks for them?).

So why doesn't Hutch just build a crank factory and make their own here in the US? I'm going to guess because this is a low volume item and is only possible if an existing manufacturer with experience and tooling to make cranks produces them.... which as far as I know doesn't exist in the US (except for Profile). Does anyone know of one? If so, let me know - I'd like to get some cranks made and be able to charge the "Made in the USA" premium smile.gif
3rd gear
I think the quality in AUS is better... and JC is making them... so lay that to rest people.
John De Bruin
I've always said that I will work with the manufacturer who can provide the best quality product, regardless of where they are geographically located. Quality is what is most important. Period.
sack
Hopefully lessons were learned after the Profile experience.
n2o
Hey, if everything is going to be made overseas, maybe the new race jerseys should have white sleeves with red dots, you know, to signify the Japanese flag instead of the stars from the United States flag.

Just a thought.
willinois
Original Aerospeeds are rare why?
1) Few people bought them back in the day
2) those who did broke them and tossed them in the garbage

Thus rare!

Now you are discussing the quality of repro cranks that very few people will actually ride? ...have fun! wink.gif


Oh, and Hi Brett!

chase2wheels
according to the new Hutch newsletter,the aerospeeds will be $499 with all hardware (including Ti spindle).
sack
Considering I paid 300 for the Profiles and only ended up using the spindle, bearings and spider, 500 isn't bad for something high quality, with good chrome and a powerdisk. I paid 200 for the JC arms only. Add in the profile spider and spindle, polish job on the profile spider and chrome bolts and I have bunch in that setup.
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