"PK" does also have another meaning outside of BMX and it might fit with these hipsters, at least alot of the ones I've met it does. But maybe SE should of called it something like "PK All Day" or a "PK 24/7".

I may have spoke to soon about "Kids" people under 20 older than 10, not riding BMX anymore... for the first time tonight in the spot that usually has the fixed gear kids practicing some form of trick, 3 kids... 1 on a 2009 SE retro Quadangle, one a 2009 Haro freestyler, and one riding a Chrome looptail BMX bike with no markings.... it was Awesome to see...
If the 80's were the "Golden Age" of BMX perhaps the "Silver Age" is on the way?

SE is currently in negotiations with the Sham~Wow guy, and we will soon she a Sham~Ripper...

I may have spoke to soon about "Kids" people under 20 older than 10, not riding BMX anymore... for the first time tonight in the spot that usually has the fixed gear kids practicing some form of trick, 3 kids... 1 on a 2009 SE retro Quadangle, one a 2009 Haro freestyler, and one riding a Chrome looptail BMX bike with no markings.... it was Awesome to see...
If the 80's were the "Golden Age" of BMX perhaps the "Silver Age" is on the way?

So what does it mean to them hipsters. Don´t keep us in suspense...

"OFF Ripper" would have been nice... LOL

Yeah man, I'm not hip enough to get the "PK" in the non-BMX vocabulary. Enlighten us.

Again, I love to read your guys' thoughts & opinions. I have actually crafted many a design & modification from these threads. Example: A while ago I read about some peeps wanting shorter sizes of our retro bikes. So you know there's gonna be 2 sizes of PK Loops & 20" Quad Loops next year. Short dudes (like me) rejoice! 20.5" top tubes coming your way.

And I also read on here that Steve Smith wanted a way shorter rear end on the 24" Quad Loop. It wasn't until I read that that I realized that the back end on that bike was pretty stinkin' long. So Steve, you'll be happy to know that I shortened it from 16" to 15.35".

Ok, so back to the topic at hand. Yes, it's too late to make any changes. These bikes are getting produced in the beginning of July. And take note that at first, this bike was called the "Fixie Ripper." The first 4 samples we received had these graphics. I thought they looked cool & it sounded good to me. But as I did a bit more research into the Fixed Gear culture, I learned that putting the word "Fixie" in the name of the frame is equivalent to to putting the word "BMX" on a BMX bike. Like calling a BMX bike the "BMX Shredder" or something cheesy like that. So we made the change to "PK Ripper."

The official bike name is the DCxPK Ripper Fixed Gear bike. And believe it or not, there are PLENTY of dudes in their 30's that remember the PK Ripper that are now riding these Fixed Gear bikes. It's not just the younger teen generation on these fixies. And hey, if this is the first (and probably only) way that these young guns learn about the PK Ripper, then so be it! The end result is that the PK Ripper name lives on. And nobody can fault that, right? I mean some of these Fixie kids who have never heard of the PK Ripper or Perry Kramer are going to be SO stoked to have one of these "new" bikes with Floval tubing, the classic gusset @ the headtube, the LOOPTAIL(!) rear end, the Landing Gear forks. This new version of the PK Ripper might engrave itself into these kids' brains & hearts just like your PK Ripper did back in the 80's. Feeeeeeeeel me?

The PK Ripper legacy lives on.....

I have a sneaky suspicion this fixed gear fixation (lol) will fall flat on its face. Pretty soon they will tire (lol im ona roll here) of balancing with their bars turned at 90 degree angles, riding around with their leg through the front triangle or riding barspin wheelies. What are they gonna do? Put pegs on them and start doing cherry pickers?

free(of)style video pretty much says it all.

Clicky

Haha those fixie tricks look like 1980s freestyle all over again.

Pathetic.

Check out Fixie Crew Reppin the Skillz for a good laugh....at least these guys have some skill.

Oh yeah, check out this cringe-inducing weirdness.

At any rate, she can definitely give those tools in the first video (the Bike Jerks -- their own name, not mine for them, by the way) a lesson or two.

Eurohero,

Fruity=Schwül

I like that first photo!

Yeah, Euro-trash indeed. This costume is "tasty"...

And believe it or not, look what she´s doing in her spare time. She rides a Flatland Bike...

I have a sneaky suspicion this fixed gear fixation (lol) will fall flat on its face. Pretty soon they will tire (lol im ona roll here) of balancing with their bars turned at 90 degree angles, riding around with their leg through the front triangle or riding barspin wheelies. What are they gonna do? Put pegs on them and start doing cherry pickers?

free(of)style video pretty much says it all.

Clicky

I have a sneaky suspicion this fixed gear fixation (lol) will fall flat on its face. Pretty soon they will tire (lol im ona roll here) of balancing with their bars turned at 90 degree angles, riding around with their leg through the front triangle or riding barspin wheelies. What are they gonna do? Put pegs on them and start doing cherry pickers?

free(of)style video pretty much says it all.

Clicky

Is this pic for real? Where did you find it?

artistic cycling and the new fixie crowd are 2 different breeds. Artistic cyling bikes are fixed gear, but their sport goes way way back into the 1800s, way before any of us tried a cherrypicker......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC8rkMmc3sU...feature=related

Those "artistic cyclers" are definitely talented, I'll gladly give them that credit.

But WHAT is up with those lame-o fixed gear moves? (I won't dignify calling them "tricks")

Come on, a wheel balance? Sticking your foot through the frame? Leg over the bars? I could do all of that and more when I was 10 riding a Huffy back in 1980. What makes those guys think that is talent?

By the way, I'd love to see a video of Ines Brunn rippin' it up on a BMX bike.

And just think they will be performing said moves on a "PK Ripper".
(sorry thought I would try and bring this thread back around...)

I know! Such lameness associated with Perry Kramer makes my skin crawl.

Oh well. I love SE and I wish Todd continued success, but the PK Fixie concept is just plain misguided. I'm sure it will be a quality frame, but those fixie boys have no concept of the roots of the legendary name, PK Ripper means nothing to them, how many times can we say this?

Todd, please reconsider!

And to be honest, those Fixi-Clowns are there to be taken to the cleaners. They deserve it.

By the way, I scoped out a black/white OM Flyer at the LBS today....$460...sounds cheap and I don't know squat about the quality of new school components, but it looks cool.

i think se is doing a good job.

I call this move the "Flying Vag"

Actually it was the fixies who did those tricks first.
Todd is smart, milk the market while it is hot. Take the money. Invest in SE and BMX. Bravo.
If more BMXers thought like him we would have been seen more in the olympics.

Personally not a fixie fan but if it keeps SE rolling, pedal that damn thing backwards!

The PK brand doesn't just do something for 40 year old dudes. I'm a 43 year old former 'powderpuff' racer, and I used to think the kids were staring at me because I'm an 'old woman' compared to them. Not so....

They're staring at my bike, and I think that's pretty frickin' cool. Not to mention this bike rocks, handles great, and since I accidentally got about two feet of air off the first jump I hit on my first day on a track in 25 years, I'm happy it was while I was riding the PK. Now I'm back racing again, and it's on a cruiser. I wish they had older womens' 20" classes, because I would tear it up on this bike. I might just enter a 17 and over race anyways.

I have mixed feelings about the use of a name with the history behind it that the 'PK Ripper' brand carries, but ultimately I know that MY bike is the real deal, lol....

Just my two cents.
PS: this bike does nice tailwhips, too. Remember when we used to do freestyle tricks on our race bikes? Well, we did up here in Poughkeepsie, anyways....