OK..after finally finishing my redline cruiser and getting to ride a 24" for the first time ever, I now NEED a 24" freestyle bike!

It will be mainly for flatland..what I am wondering is:

Did anyone ever make a steel twin top tube 24" bike? I am hoping to find something mid-school and tweak it out to be kind of retro...I can weld on 990 mounts no problem..I could even do a 20 to 24 conversion, but I'd rather not get into that..I really like a frame with twin top tubes..but I suppose I could pick up one of those cheap DK 24" and add a top tube platform,,since I actually want to ride it, I don't want anything as valuable as a old school Torker..

any one have some advise or pics of 24" freestyle bikes?

here´s clip of mirra teaching a rallydriver a backflip on a 24 with twin top tubes ..

don´t know the manufacturer , but i´m sure someone will know ..

cheers

bravopro

http://cruiserrevolution.com/2009/02/13/ra...mirras-cruiser/

Freeze it at 12 seconds, that's a 24" Quadangle.

Not sure why there isn't more freestyle type cruisers made. Why are they mostly geared towards racing. I've been using my cruiser for jumping and ramps for over 20 years. But it's a racing bike...

There was a 24" Trickstar at the OS show this weekend, but obviously it wasn't stock.


Doug

yes , you´re right , it seems to be a quad ...

but i´m shure i´ve seen a TTT cruiser before ... but where ... hmmmm ...

Check out this listing for a 24" performer. Knight makes these f/fs
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=139469

Also, there are a few Haro Freestylers around that have been modded to 24", just search the freestyle section.

There was a company about a year ago that made some really nice looking 24" twin top tube bikes. I think it was Ambient Bikes, or something similar. I'm not sure if there around anymore, but they looked beautiful. Johnny Chopper will build you anything you want and he does great work.

The owner of Ambiente bikes is Jarvi on here. He has very nice twin top tube models.
Ambiente Bikes

yes, Torker did a 24" with twin top tube in the early 80s then again in the late 90's....



http://www.bikepedia.com/Images/image.aspx...ro++Cruiser.jpg

Youtube would lead one to believe a freestyle 24 has nothing to do with twin top tubes.
This dude rocks the simple fullcromo DK cruiser frame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXtvl7FQVQY

Thanks for all the info! The Knight and Ambients are amazing..but a bit out of my price range..

That you tube vid is cool..but I want a flatland bike..for a giant! LOL

*Disclaimer* What I am about to say in no way means I do like cruisers*Disclaimer*

I am not trying to be disrespectful here but I really dont get it, why is it the moment guys get up there in age ( and I am no spring chicken myself) they all seem to automatically think they need a 24 or 26 inch size wheel? And a 24" for flatland? What are like 9 foot 2? Most 20 inch flatland bikes are small by 20 inch standards as you need a bike that is rather short to get into some of the seriously contorted stuff. Please explain this to me, I am still riding a 20 inch and I am NOT the same size was in the 80's but then neither is the length of my new school frame.

..I want one because I did some tricks on my PL24 and it felt WAY better.

i built a flatland cruiser with a DK General lee for 150 off craigslist. just as an experiment/project.
the weight and wheel size slows things down, but it also feels super solid.
i'm definitely not bragging about my flatland skills--i really havent ridden flat regularly and tried to learn new stuff since '99, but here's a quick vid:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoID=24432758

i have also set up my 22" wheel FACTION for flatland. but the combination of frame length and weight wasn't as good as the General Lee. if i could build a shorter version of the Faction frame, i could definitely make a 22" wheel flatland bike work.

General Lee 24" next to FACTION 22"
and
Macneil Deuce Deuce 22"tt 20" next to FACTION 22"


to answer Sonnik71:

why not? there's a reason this thing we do used to be called FREEstyle. the attitude of our heroes as 'anything you can shred on, do it'. that's what these brazilian kids do:

http://www.global-flat.com/videos/youtube/show_video.php?

http://www.global-flat.com/videos/youtube/...ode=bpo1OSonums

i guess, many were just little kids when they rode and due to the odd angles and the stacking height of the old 1" steering system and gyro/rotor systems, their bikes might have felt different to them than the newer 20" bikes do now. if they hop on a stock redline cruiser they might think it feels the exact same as their old bike did back in the 80s.
flatland has progressed a lot. it sure is not what many might remember and most might even be scared to try all the new stuff.
those who never really stopped riding were part of the progression in bmx and might not have noticed the difference as much.

edit:
i like the idea behind the 22" bikes. seems to be a good compromise and i'd even prefer one of those over the new sunday cruiser and most likely even my own wtp unified 24.
wouldn't use it for riding flatland, though.

Thas GREAT!! thanks for posting..I've actually been thinking of picking one of these up:

http://www.dkbicycles.com/completes.html?c...nus24/main.html


What did you do for front brakes?

that is EXACTLY right. when i look back at pictures of me 13 and 14 years old on a Haro Master, that thing had stacking-headset, top loader stem raised 2 inches up, and 8"+ rise bars.... it was tall !!

a LOT of flatland was invented on bikes with taller front end setups than the setups that became trendy in the 90's..... a lot of flatlanders in the late 80s were relatively tall dudes too. in the early 90s you still had riders like Chris Young still rocking Peregrine Q bars with stem raised up. then a weird thing happened around '94.... shorter riders were cutting their peregrine q bars in half and the trend caught on.... soon "flatland" bars were all small, with the exception of hoffman love handles which Day Smith still rode well through the 90's. then another thing happened. Ruben Castillo designed the GT Show to fit him.. Other pro flatlanders got pro model frames that were really small to fit their smaller stature. Now you can barely get a flatland bike longer than 19"tt and with a decent cs on it. Kevin Jones' STROWLER is basically the only one.

it's regular 990's on a Standard bolt-on 990 brake plate. i think you can still order front 990 brake plates. check Albe's, Flatlandfuel, Dans Comp, Empire, etc.

You might want to look into the Sunday model C. It's supposed to be more like a 20" even thought its a cruiser. WDS just picked one up, he would know more or hit up sundaybikes.com

I'm even more impressed with the one that 'Cru Jones' on ridemonkey.com forum built:

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217705



Check out the geo:
Nice long front end. SHORT back end. Bottom bracket slightly ABOVE axle level instead of slightly below axle level... (The Sunday Model C on the other hand has the bb way high....)

TT - 22.3
CS - 14.25
BB - 12.75
HA - 74
SA - 71.5
ST - 9

have a custom built one done to your specs from SBC

I think I have it covered...spy pics coming soon!

post em up !

just check the new wethepeople catalogue for 2010 ..

there´s the new avenue 24"...

hmmmmmmm... very tasty !

http://issuu.com/wemakethings/docs/wtpbike...howFlipBtn=true

Brooklyn Machine Works also makes a twin top tube 24". except it has a disc brake. disc brakes do work awesome, only drawback is if it's on your grindside.



http://www.brooklynmachineworks.com/site/bikes.html


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Woah, you're right!

Direct link to the 2010 Avenue 24 They say it has "New BMX-like geometry, designed to be ridden like a 20"." It looks like the BB is taller than normal, but unfortunately they don't list the height on the spec sheet.

Good lord, not only did they "borrow" Sunday's Geomentry (from the model-C, we all knew that would happen) but the graphics/stickers? Sheesh.

That was the first thing I thought as well when I saw it.
To be fair though the Sunday! graphics are a bit borrowed as well.
-Bill