More to the point waza, why are you up at 3 in the morning? LOL
Some nice survivors in here too.

It was actually 4pm here Coasty.... LOL

I was trawling the bay... looking for mongoose serial numbers.........

Hey Waz, not quite sure where to post some of this info. but seeing as how this is your last thread I know of, I figured this is the place.

First off, I now own another '76 long OG Nickel Mongoose to add to your serial # reference chart: CG6 22201

It's off the hook mint... Another "powder puff"! OG finish, OG declas, with mint OG Preston Petty grips, Simi MM1's etc... Really sweet. You'll love it...

Secondly, there are a couple small additions/corrections to the www.vintagemongoose.com site you might want to add...

Under the serial # page it states:

"The '75 coaster brake tab also has thicker...etc." You might want to change that to "the early '75 coaster brake tab..." Because it did change within the first year.

Also the caption that reads: "Please note the Supergoose is just a chrome plated Team frame" Should be changed to "just a chrome plated or Nickel plated Team frame"...etc.

Here's some more anomalies to consider... BTW, I have no idea how to fully clarify all these strange differences in the Team frame information.

A Team Frame with no extra holes on the brake bridge:






Here's one that appears to be a Team (w/extra brake bridge holes) but with no "T" in the serial #:




Obviously, it's no perfect science. So many crazy Mongoose mysteries... Anyhow, hope that helps bro.

First off, I now own another '76 long OG Nickel Mongoose to add to your serial # reference chart: CG6 22201
I had the serial # listed but have now added your name as the owner

"The '75 coaster brake tab also has thicker...etc." You might want to change that to "the early '75 coaster brake tab..." Because it did change within the first year.
Updated, thanks for that

Also the caption that reads: "Please note the Supergoose is just a chrome plated Team frame" Should be changed to "just a chrome plated or Nickel plated Team frame"...etc.
Not quite, Ive edited the text to clarify

A Team Frame with no extra holes on the brake bridge:
QUOTE - "These extra holes were only on the full cromo frames that had the "step down" type dropouts."

Here's one that appears to be a Team (w/extra brake bridge holes) but with no "T" in the serial #:
QUOTE - "Also of note is the "T" (for team), was also dropped. When they dropped the "C", it was realised that there was no need for it, as there were other ways to ID a team/supergoose (full cromo) frame."

Ive noticed there was a few "crazy" months around April, May and June in 1981, when there was mix of old and new dropouts being used. So there is actually a month or more where there was a "team/supergoose" frame that had NO "T" in serial but was "old style" dropouts....


thanks for the updates!!

Cool bro.

So much insane Mongoose minutiae, I don't envy you having to compile and update all this information... Kudos for doing so. Everyone benefits from your hard work.

Obviously the Teams and Supergooses are both full Chrome Moly, but in terms of the old caption that read: "Please note the Supergoose is just a chrome plated Team frame"... As I think you know already, I have a survivor 1979 Supergoose that is Nickel plated with the flattened seat stay on the right. Not sure what that means in terms of histrionics or documentation. I believe the OG '79-'80 catalogue clarifies this as well. I'm thinking you may want to correct/point that out in the serial # page...

BTW, in case you didn't see this, I made a silly new video while practicing with some movie capabilities on my Mac. Skip has seen it and digs it...

Lot's of OS Mongoose highlights for your entertainment! Enjoy... : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tYt-0AwE_g

Does your 79 nickel Team/Supergoose frame have original decals? I have seen the lit on a nickel Supergoose, but I didn’t think that actually made it. It was always my understanding that the 78-80 Team bikes were nickel frames painted with candy paint and the Supergoose was the chrome version of that bike.

I know allot of kids stripped the paint off their Team bikes and replaced the decals within a year of having them because it scratched and peeled so easy. My local bike shop owner talked me out of buying a Team frame for that same reason.

heres my mongoose that was nickel but badly worn
and had a seat post stuck and trimmed seat tube
so had it redone in white to match the bike i shared bitd
with me mate who killed himself
i also have some cheng shin knobbly's on it now

serial no# is CA1 -386405

C 17605 BB guesset

cc8 70184 shorty with coaster brake tab

THANKS GUYS
470 serials so far

Edited the serials page again

Click here for serial # web page

Thanks for the good work, Waz.

Nice 'goose sundayrider....I really like those tires.

cheers i do still have em but prefer the look of the original ones

Here is one I would like to get rid of, can anyone tell me what it is?Click to view attachmentClick to view attachment

Rick

It's an `83 looptail with early `90's decals.

Hi folks - I don't post on here very often as i spend most of my time on RADBMX.CO.UK but i'm lovin this thread - so here is my flock

1978 Short Nickel--------- CG8 88267 ----- BB
1979 Nickel Minigoose---- CG9 187404 ---- BB
1979 Team / Super------- TCL9 262289 --- BB
1980 Supergoose 1------- T-CB0 285265 -- BB
1980 Nickel Mongoose---- CJ0 346981 ---- BB
1981 Nickel Minigoose---- CA1 386221 ---- BB

1981 Mongoose------------ G142807 ------- BB
1982 Mongoose------------ A2000664 ------ Gusset
1982 Supergoose 2-------- I2005208 ------ Gusset
1982 Supergoose 2-------- L2001896 ------ Gusset

1983 USA Supergoose 3--- G3002777 ------ Gusset
1984 Californian------------ M4J19061 ------ BB
1984 Californian------------ M4J19069 ------ BB
1984 Blue Max-------------- M4-I6865 ------ BB

Top group are early dropout style, second group are the super dropout (with the holes) and last group is the gusset-less cali shaped era. I've added where the serial is stamped. Nothing too strange about any of my nos. i don't think, but i was pleasantly suprised to see a difference of only 8 numbers between my two 84 californians ! Especially since i bought one from a guy who owned it from new over here in the UK and shipped the other in from the states after winning it on ebay !

I've put the serials as they are stamped I.E. if it has a hyphen or space between characters on the frame then it shows it above.

NOTE 1 : The 79 team/super in the list i can't distinguish if it is a team or super as it had been powdercoated yellow before i bought it (and it's a nice finish so i ain't stripping it off !) I've looked for tell tale signs i.e. overspray of red or blue candy in the seat tube, BB and head tube but nothing there

NOTE 2 : Can anyone confirm when the short frames stopped getting made as mine above is CG8 but i read somewhere that they stopped the shorties late 77 - obviously that can't be right because i have 78 in front of me !!

Note 3 : As far as i am concerned my supergoose 1 1980 is chrome not nickel and it is definitely the original finish with original decals so is this around the time they dropped nickel on the supergoose 1 and moved over to chrome ?

Sorry for rambling on guys !

John (bobafettuk)

Wow, nice collection John!

I think you are right about your observations as well. I think '79 was the last/only year for the Nickel Supergoose, that's one reason I really cherish mine...

Also I've never seen any short Geese frames after '78 so what you said about that makes sense as well. I may be wrong (so many oddities in the Mongoose history) but you seem to be right on track IMO.

It's nice to have the details to go with serial #'s as that will obviously help determine exactly when these changes began and when they were phased out.

Again, great collection you have and great observations/information.

Thanks mongoosedrummer - I thought my collection was getting out of hand.... until i saw yours

Do you just collect the frames or do you build / ride any ?
I plan to build all of mine - got 3 done at the moment which are just for show and 2 almost built which i will ride. The rest of them i have most of the bits to build 'em but there is some restoration work to be done on a few and some need powdering

I'm going off topic here so i'll shut up

A quick question on reco though - on vintagemongoose waza says reco built the frames for the first 3 years which puts my 78 shorty at the end of that era - just wondering from my serial if you think it is a reco build ? I might get a repop reco sticker for it to finish it off

The whole RECO thing is being looked into further as far as I know... I'll let Waz comment on that question. Personally, I'm still gathering information on it to hopefully contribute some more data.

Glad you asked about if I was only collecting frames... Gives me another chance to show off a couple of my bikes again! Ha!

I've built up many Geese but my two favorites (in terms of showing) are my original Nickel '75 and my one of a kind "Copper Goose". I ride them both also. There are threads here on both of them.

I like to be able to ride everything I build, it's my own little personal philosophy for collecting. I understand those who don't. It's a personal choice.

My absolute favorite riders are my '79 Nickel Supergoose and a '76 Redline Squareback with Webco mags that I have.

Here's my original Nickel '75 Goose and my one of a kind "Copper Goose":

Seeing that 75 has just reminded me..... i still need some clear grips

Lovin that 75 - and you weren't kiddin when you said one of a kind with the copper one

Shoot me a PM.

These are getting nearly impossible to find...

As for the Reco part. heres a quote from the company history page on our webite.

"RECO (Racer Engineering Company) was a wholly owned manufacturing division created for insurance purposes to be separate from BMX Products, Inc, even though RECO was always in house"

I have what seems to be a 1981 Mongoose frame #D107693. Dunno what I'm gonna do with it, I guess I'll build it up as a beater but it ain't what I'm into cause I don't dig BMX stuff after 1977/78. The black frame is in pretty bad shape visually.

NIce work BObba!!! thanks mate

almost to 500 serials now

No probs - happy to have my flock as part of the list

Will the list end up on vintagemongoose ? That would be nice

Here is a start:

Yellow March 1978 Short Frame CC8 68998
Red July 1977 CG7 46894
June 1978 CF8 82541
White 1978 CF8 82515
Red July 1979 CG9 193645
Blue Team Mongoose November 1979 TCK9 244691
Black Team Mongoose December 1979 TCL9 261435
Nickel Team Mongoose January 1980 TCA0 267837
Yellow January 1989 CA0 276936
White March 1980 CC0 292514
March 1980 CC0 297552
Nickel April 1980 CD0 303142
Team Mongoose TCE0 307773 Chrome
Jan 1981 CA1 377958
Jan 1981 CA1 379189
July 1981 G142380
Nickel Sept 1981 I171760
November 1981 K195449
November 1981 K197766
Sept 1982 I2801033
March 1983 C3002018
Sept 1983 I3004854
May 1981 Supergoose E117712
Sept 1981 Supergoose I168023
Chrome Team Mongoose TCH0 322119
Chrome Supergoose TCB0 283313
Nickel Supergoose TCK9 243167

I have another 10-12 that I will have to dig out later.

Supergoose T-CCO 307152
Kos Kruiser T-CCI 405416
Moosegoose CHO 323186
Two/Four A2001214
My other Moosegoose was rechromed and cant make out the numbers:(

Cheers guys 522 so far now

For those who have asked yes this will become avaibale on www.vintagemongoose.com

1979 De Coster CB9 138958
1979 Nickel Jag CI9 212005 (serial # is very light)
1983 Blue Max A3000136
1984 Blue Max I3001458
1981 Mongoose Special Edition (Gold sticker on seat tube) K1097766
1980 Moosegoose CC0 297052
Blue Mongoose Decade M7G 08075

i've got an 85 californian f/s serial # M5CF6306







it kinda kills me to do it since it's almost all original except for tires and gt frame standers but if i can't get a good price i'll have to part it out

Here are two more I recently purchased:

1980 DeCoster CA0 278976
1979 Team Jag TCE 9171775

Oops !

Forgot to add one on my list :

1979 Black Painted mongoose (Original Finish)---- CL9 261207 ---- BB

How's the list looking Waza - any sign of it hitting the vintage goose site yet ?
Cheers,
John.

Soon, working on a layout and editing the file as well
Also working on the non-gussett serials as well.....

thanks guys for all ya help and input...

cheers
waz

Here are two more I now own:

1976 Mongoose CH6 22868
1980 Supergoose TCHO 321035

Mongoose Californian J2003550

W red skyway tuff IIs

soon to be restored to the beauty i remember.

Could you post a pic of this one? Mongoose Californian J2003550

cheers
waza007

PM KOSGARY

I know he has a few mongoose products!

Here is serial off Expert I'm tinkering with. Not gonna lie I don't know year etc. lol
M3-J6719

I've got a Supergoose and a buddy had a BMX products Raleigh. I'll have to get the numbers off both and send them in.

I went and got my buddy's three geese.

'81 chrome Supergoose, step dropouts, Tange 1200 fork: H163621

'84 chrome, no gusset, looptail (californian? expert?): C4000906

'82 nickel Blue Max with the DeCoster style fork: A2003488

1981 Candy Blue Team Mongoose TCB1 394944

Hey Waz, here's one I just picked up. CLO 364218

This is a real creampuff... Owned by a women since she was a little girl and had kept it for 28 years and almost never rode it. Sweet gold OG decals, almost immaculate OG finish.

I'm pretty happy with this one... An almost perfect survivor.

1980 Supergoose:
T-CEO
307308

supergoose
E 117584
sold in oz..

'82 Goose, California Special (if memory serves). Serial number J2003152.

thanks guys keep em coming
every one counts

WAZA! How's it goin' mate? 2 more for ya......

E117728 may 81 super goose stepped drop outs chrome plate.


CCO
293401 march 1980 nickel plate.

Cheers Roy
where u been hidin???

I was just playing around with some Supergoose's...

-E3 000333
-F3 000181
-I3 003960
-K3 003169
-G4 000732

Hey Tommy, are they all non-gussett ones?

Here's one more for you Waz, I forgot I had this frame laying in the shed.

CJ0 345823