I didn't die! Steve Brooks dominated me. I did have both tires off the ground at the same time (on purpose), and landed back on them as well . Akron is just to long for my old tired legs. Sunday rained out again. Long drive for you Chris. The sun came out and it got nice out. The 2nd straight still would have sucked. Good talking with you guys anyway.

Nice to meet you today Eddie. I wish we could have gotten some racing in today, and I hear ya on old tired legs.

yes.how could i forget van may,,i grew up going to races with him,,the guy was FAST,,UNDERSTATMENT,here is the only picture of him i have att the jox jag bmx words in indy,,we both lived in a tiny little farm town on the ohio pa line,are local tracks were north & south park,,where at north park i got struck by lightning while balancing on the gate for a 17 exper 32nd semi,,everyone thought i died,,but i actually made the 17 cruiser main that day and crashed out in turn 1,,,remember how long the straights were at north park,,ok check this out,here are a list of riders from hubbard oh,off the top of my head,,van may,j.d. lind,mark blackburn,dan lewis,rodney hallapy,jeff heckard,mike petrosky,i know im forgetting some,but we had a lot of good riders from are little town,,

i do,,i have a shot of me and larry young,,just havent found it,,here is one of me and one of the lang brothers havin fun on the big doubles ,,,

Didnt i ban you along with the ice cream trucks at kettering MR rack?

not sure, maybe you should check with big bird on that

Some more past names from the North end: Boomer Reynolds, Mike McQue, Rob Spencer, Chris & Matt Cook, Mike Carr, Fuzzy. Used to race a lot with these guys up at this end of the state.
Didn't know that Bob knew what a computer was- hope you have good weather for all of your races comming up Bob. What do you think about this O-S Race we're going to have during the State race in Kettering? Oh ya, Congrats on getting the RC finals this year. Hope to see you there. Tommy Meryman

BMX Teacher,
You have any thoughts about maybe selling me that JMC cruiser you have after the old school race?

Wouldn't be able to sell the bike after I win the race. Too sentimental. LOL No really, that would put a gap in my collection, sorry couldn't do it.

I love that bike tommy- seems to have more headtube rake then the dy 20' i hated that about the dy im a chopper kinda guy.
That cant be bob he dont know how to spell aba i dont think.


We need a roll call sounds like tommy ,protour,eddie nelson,chris cline,greg boring,ric hiesler seems there up for dibs on the se frame ...

I'll try to bring Gary Craft. He is a law abiding citizen now. He has a bike that hangs in his garage. I think he can still ride it?

Remind me again on how this is going to work . .

2 motos:
* 1 on old bikes - winner takes the PK
* 1 on new bikes - winner gets ???

Then what?

Should be fun watching someone else win the prizes. LOL!

I remember ol gary itll be good to see him too.

Havent heard from matt on the kuwahara frame yet so.....
How about i put up BOTH se frames 1 for each class?The pk for the riders class
The quadangle for the vintage bike class.
BTW
Todd told me i could keep the quad if i liked it ,its a judgement call and a1/2 to make .What would you guys do?
So there it is 2 bikes one for each class.I was in nashville over the weekend and had a friend give the bruns the fliers to pass out -they said from what i heard does he know this is during the state race ?I told bob it would be 2 motos not a grands type event .

Steve,
I like having a frame for each class winner. Heck I might race in both motos just to get embarrassed twice. If Todd is cool with you keeping them both and giving them out, that is great. If not, that's fine too. It's just for fun and Todd and you have been very cool setting it up.

Just for the record, is it one moto for each class. Meaning, is it one lap and done? Winner takes it. Or will we run 3 qualifing motos and have a main for each of the classes?

I am really looking forward to this event!!!!! I wish I had an old school bike also so I could race in both. I was supposed to go to St Louis that day for work but I am going to leave on Monday morning on a very early flight so I can race with you guys instead.

Steve, I think its really cool to give out both frames. I doubt I will get one but you never know.

Brian Wick

It will be a automatic main like any other aba race .The main winners will get the prizes.3 motos each moto takes winner +/- depending on rider count transfer to main.

No- Todd told me from jumpstreet when he said he would send the ripper after the quad was sent mistakenly if i wanted the quad for "myself" to keep it
I thought about it all this time .Protour jumped on it like a pirahna right off lol..
Besides im loving that ripper sure wish i had one of them He told me to race you guys for it

Yes I am alittle bit excited. LOL

i will be there steve.

I plan on being there and trying to get the rest of the Kiniyalocts crew up as well. I had some thoughts of actually getting out on my bike to get in some form of race shape, but after further review, I decided that I would more than likely end up hurting myself in training, so I will be the squirrely at the back! Looking forward to seeing everyone...

Steve, you did all the work on this one, so if you want one of the bikes, get out there and win it!

#1 Most of us do not expect to have any chance of actually winning (see first paragraph - reason for not training) #2 The bikes are a VERY cool bonus, BUT most importantly this is a chance for us old BMXers to get together and catch up

I can see a out of shape & squirrely Mikey K. beating everyone on an old Cycle Craft or twin down tube Vector bike!

"most importantly this is a chance for us old BMXers to get together and catch up" ....I agree

Hi Mike!

I made contact w/ Big Nard, hope to see him on here soon.
Steve- do we need to purchase an ABA membership in order to race?

Steve,

You may want to post all the info about the old school race on the Ohio NBL forum. There are a few dads that used to race that now there kids are racing that don't know anything about VintageBMX.com.

Just a thought.

Cna anyone tell me how long the first straight is, and how long the entire track in? If I recall the whole track is about 1000 feet long. Which means I can make it half way before needing an Ox refill. Will there be a pit stop in the second corner for this? One month to go, excitement is building.

I heard there will be a nurses station at the halfway point with oxygen and small beds to rest on. Maybe Steve should add a manditory pitstop like they do in NASCAR.

Yeah im sure bob will make everyone buy a gay-b-a lisc. they do have a 30 day version but big bird talked me outta it when i started.I think the 30 day is 30.00.If you have a current nbl the aba is honoring them and giving you a aba til the nbl expires.Again this info is on thier state race flyer so you need to be forcefull.They said to my friend does he know its during the state final [the flyer is j- rads pic on the the events page in here]they must think 300 peoples coming ...i was in crashville this weekend so i couldnt take them and explain to them but ive talked to bob several times about this he was cool.
The first straight is maybe 150 ft at most .The track is no longer then hilliard back in the day if it is not much more .The starting gate is very steep and boosts you so you wont have to get winded til the second straight.Gear up and save your lungs with this starting hill.None of the jumps are hard bob knocks them down any time the aba /help builds them up.
I think ill just watch im going to grands the week after i dont need no headhunters getting funny trying to win a frame
And yes i can believe after all these years mikey handing all of us our rears ...

Dang..... which page is the race info on again?? There's sooo many pages now, I just went threw them all, but I think went too fast.

Can we get an update on the dates and times for the race?

Thank you,

Steve, thanks for the info about the length of the track. It always seems to me that racks are getting longer. Maybe its just me getting older and lungs getting smaller.
I believe the Day/Date for the race is Sunday Aug. 24. If not, I asked for the wrong day off. I just hope its not 100deg. in the shade that day. Kettering has been known to be very hot in the past. Have to bring a chest full of ice, just to cool off after each moto.

http://bmxdayton.com/

Aug.24th registration 1:30-3:00
Be there a lil early to setup your liscenses.The wouldnt let ed combs race a local cause he missed reg. by 5 minutes a few weeks ago.And they did that to me once at dayton indoor [thier very anal about that]

I wan't steve to race! You can have both frames if you get them to waive the aba licence. This is an opportunity to bring people back into the sport with kids. Not just any people. The people that made Ohio BMX the best place to race in the country. If people in charge can't see that, then stupid is why the sport isn't what is was then. common sence, Not so common! Steve call and conferm that info. Please! I'll be there and I'll buy anyone who can't afford it. After all the 4 hour drive with gas prices won't stop me from seeing you guys, nor will the rediculous aba license keep me from playing around in the dirt just one more time! Next time pick Columbus (more central) i'm just kidding. Steve, at least coast off the gate with us. You've earned that. I'll pay for that as well.

Steve, I agree you should race with us you have more than earned it.

Just sent this email to anna :
Hey anna ,

I ok'ed the old school race with bob and been planning it since dayton indoor[about 4 months]

I planned it on the final at kettering to attract more riders to the state race to build the rider /moto count for dayton.I expect there should be at least 15-20 riders .Some want to race vintage bikes the others want to race current bikes thats why 2 classes .

They have been worried about your flier saying that you accept nbl and that when they show up you may not im wanting to confirm this.Many have never raced aba and havent raced nbl in over 15 years .They would want a 30 day lisc. due to no northern aba tracks up near akron.If you would get back with me asap so i can relay the info on to them so they can plan the trip with thier familys ...

Some of the names might ring a bell....

Kiniyalocts,heisler,nelson,raflik,carnes,cline,boring,merryman,werderman etc

Thanks steve smith

Steve, I have to think this is going to happen w/out any problems. I hope everybody has a good time.

holy crap sounds like it is heading downhill fast........... i hope you get this taken care of steve or at least an answer so people can plan for this

Worst case I bet Heer Park would let us hold the event there without any problem. The people down there are really nice and I bet they would welcome the race. Don't worry it sounds like Steve has this under control.

its not down hill fast ,anna /bob have the fliers in hand -bob was ok with the 2 classes ,and at the final.Bob and i have talked about it recently as a month ago i told him i was making a flier he said to send it to annas email so she could pass them out .I made my own copys at work and hamilton,brookville,and ketterings got them .
The only issue should be the 30 day lisc .
Anna held my sons app. for a race or 2 instead of me buying a 30 day for him cause its 30 more from a upgrade or something silly if you decide to get a full lisc.
What im thinking could cause beef is them saying 30 day lisc is for people who have never raced in thier life ....but idk
He did say that we could and if anything comes of it well just move it there ,they also said we wouldnt need lisc. at heer park.

you da man steve......... you get clipped in yet?

No i dont think i need them after my results this past weekend...



Besides i have plenty of hp without them im good .Id been hospitalized if id had them in that pic[i crashed 3 times at nashville on sat =all time record]

ouch that sucks, but I'm not sure if that is a new record for you!!!!!!!!!

Steve,
In the old school bikes race, we racing 20" and 24" or what is the rule?

Billy Ross

Yes any oldschool bike in the os bike class .20',24,pitbike
any newschool bike in the os rider/pk ripper class
You still going to make the entrants a memphis video?

Ive wrecked 5 times in 6 months this weekends 3 included. so i been good til this weekend.Ive brought dirt back from crashville every year ive raced there...
This weekend at tn brought back a bunch of memories ,i remember the kiniyalocts motorhome breaking down and johnsons giving us a ride and sleeping in the bike trailer til sr got the rv fixed.Tom and mike and whitmans team looking down those cliffs they jumped off years earlier,skyways eddie sigmond jumping at the beach ..The bmxa trick team at the murray wc .
Mike theres a video of tom on u tube from the 83 grands just search 83 nbl grands hes the first moto or 2 winning his race.

I raced quite a bit in Ohio in the 70's and 80's... My all time favorite downhill track was in Minerva Ohio at a motocross track called Dusty Trails. We hit there in 1976 on the FMF-NBA Tour and I had to design and build a track the day before the National. It was the narliest fastest track in my moldy old memory banks.. It ended up being nearly a mile long, starting at the top of the MX track's first up hill.. We came bombing down it at 50MPH plus only to funnel down into a single line 3' high berm at the bottom! If you missed it or overshot it, we brought flowers to the funeral!

JU, Bob Hadley, Byron Friday, PK, Flyin Pat Ryan, Dan Loftus, Ted Gillmette, and our rag tag team of Bezerko BMXers attacked and destroyed the competition that day... We had a blast!

I'll try to find a few pics from that day.. maybe soem of the guys mentioned will post some too!

C-Ya..
OM

Scot...wow that sounds super cool, I never heard about that one, and would love to see some pics! I wonder if Van May or Jimmy "Crab" was at that race, I think it's near their turf? This had to be one of the first in Ohio i would think?

My riding buddy from the 80's; Steve Paul told me about a race that was held in the mid 70's at the Sugercreek ski hill in Bellbrook OH. (near Dayton). He said they raced down the hill and it had wood jumps!

Steve,
Not sure yet if I can make it. I might be in Amsterdam that weekend. But if I do make it I will bring down copies of the memphis race.

Steve- is this race the state final or just an normal state race? Lets get an idea of who will be coming and bring which type of bike. Depending on who has which type of bikes I think will determine how the class will shape up

I'm coming and I'll riding my 24" DK charger

Found a couple of photos from Dusty Trails...

Notice the missing window on the van.. Ted Gillmette pressed a mooner BA against it and it popped out, flying like a frisbee before exploding on the turnpike!..LOL...

..and Dusty Trails group shot.. a rag tag group huh?.. Who can name the stars?...

I will be there on my new school 20" Redline Flight

It will be the state final at kettering.My suggestion would be do what chris clines doing bring both bikes [if you have a old one ].This will double your chances if you race both classes.
I went o the louisville old school reunion yesterday and let me tell you it was very awesome to see the old buddys from the old days and even race with them...They had a gate[parade lap] for a local old school rider that passed away and i believe i may have us do this too in memory of doug jicha if anyone wants to do it.
I seen George Frazier,Ashley Lutz these to guys were very good friends of mine bitd and it was very cool to chat with them again.For the other guys im very bad with names but remember faces and voices well.
I havent heard from anna yet but i will post when i get back from kettering .
Worst case is full lisc. =15.00 more then trial ..

Don't know if anyone cares but, Lay Ind. Track in Toledo, just anounced that their State Qualifer Race is Sat. Aug 9. Reg. 5-6pm. I also believe that Kettering on the 24th is just a Qualifer, the finals are announced/decided after all Qualifers are run, usually sometime in Sept.

Ok i talked to mrs klundt at kettering today.I told her there were many racers that havent raced in 15+ years with no lisc,racers who have raced but not aba ..I really hope this works [shes the sign up lady 99%of the time]she said the old guys who havent raced can get a trial [1 day] and only pay registration for the day.
The other cats such as chris cline can get a aba on a voucher til his current nbl runs out .Greg boring may have to try and snake a trial since you had a aba within a few years doubt you can get a full aba off your nbl ....
Ill try my best to help out anyone if this doesnt work out like she said.

BE EARLY CAUSE THIER WILL BE PAPERWORK TO FILL OUT AND SHE WONT DO IT AT LAST MINUTE!

This may be the only class with semis at the whole stinking state series proving again you guys made bmx what it is! Im getting excited!

BTW its a shame om couldnt bring in the se bus to give out the frames todd donated

Steve, thanks for all the clarification and certainly for all the work you have put into this!

I raced 20" and 24" today at the Warnike race at Heer Park. Only 12 motos and I thought I was going to die racing both bikes. LOL!!

Respect for anyone that has passed is a great idea!