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Well maybe you confirm the 1984 rumor ?
I suspect doni hier will appear now too
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I have no idea what you are talking about.

ok well im sorry i have no idea what im talking about ...btw did you go to fla with the whitmans team in early 80's?

I didn't go to Florida with Whitmans. I went to Florida with Zeronine once.

I must be mistaken wrong person/ time very sorry ...Just heard a rumor about a certain person and the old motorhome -it was watershed talk on the way to a race prolly around 88 looking back talking about the early 80's whitmans trips..

Tom k? no not in the motor home.

Ok im getting very uncomfortable here .....Again sorry ..
If i had editing skills it would be better in the email it zoomed [sorry im not pc savvy]anyway special ks in there beating bill#65 ...nick was still cute with the braces and perm..And i see dawn con in the girls moto i believe too

Steve - the ad was Indy Troy said. Yeah, the El Camino was mine

Donnie Hier- His family used to come down to the river a bunch. Last I heard Donnie was in some trouble, been 10 years or so, not sure now.

Someone telling stories about Lisa?

And Jim Hill?

I didn't mean to make you feel uncomfortable. Its actually funny. Tom must have thought a lot of me to be telling stories 4 years later. Tom and Mike were both adorable, not to mention fast. I had to really think about it but the motorhome was a nasty place and I know at least that part isn't correct.

Is that the same Lisa Vonderahe that race 12 or 13 novice at Burbank indoor against the boys?
I have video of her

Pushing Dave Osterhouse over the berm in the 1st turn @ Burbank indoor. It made him cry!

Funny even the story was 18 years old from when we were looking back .I cant find the car keys and forget to put the toilet seat down but i remember these things ...Racing storys never die and the people you befriended still come up in your mind over the years .I drive for a company and have lots of time to reflect and everyone i mention here has crossed my mind at some point since i quit racing in 93..You were all cool people and i hope you are all doing well..Wouldnt trade the fun we had for anything !
Todd you must be very proud of your son i hope my boy gets good and keeps intrest in the sport starting at age 5 im hoping hell be good !
Lisa wasnt your racing shirt [your name or something green?] i remember seeing you race before i got on whitmans in 84 i remember your brother too but i thought he was younger then me?Wasnt his name dru?

His name is still Drew and I have an older brother his name is Jay Vonderahe. They both raced for Wizard for awhile. I never had a green jersey but I used to have a favorite t shirt that had green sleeves and on it in green lettering said "I boogied at bogie". I haven't thought about that in forever.

Ok i remember jay too now that you mention it ,i think your name was outlined in green across the back of your racing jersey then? Funny tidbits you remember ....

That always makes me smile. Thanks Jim

maybe it was. I raced my first race at Bogie Downs in April of 1980? That was a great track. Marc "scooter" Steimer's parents ran it. A couple of pages ago someone mentioned Aaron Hido's brother but couldn't remember his name... Its Todd Hido and he's famous now.

Hey, I am in that pic - gate 8 in the GHP stuff. Billy Ross, I have several pics of that moto we where in together.

Here's another.



Chris Cline

Cc put it on ya billy!Isnt that frank nuccio on the inside?
Hows todd famous?
Last i seen aaron we were battling for state #1 in 88 at marietta and he crashed and broke his collar bone he was a cool guy..

Hope Aaron and Todd are doing well. Last I remember of them, Aaron had a pretty bad knee/leg injury.




Not sure if that is Frank N or not, but I do seem to recall having him in a moto at the Grands once.

last time I spoke with Todd he said that Aaron was doing well. Todd is a photographer. His books are on Amazon. www.toddhido.com

Thanks, I will check it out. I was between them in age, but seemed to know Aaron better. Glad to hear they are doing well.


Speaking of fast guys, any one remember Andy Golobick?

I mentioned them both in the beginning ,wayne too....i remember andy beating everyone in marietta national the guy was talented for sure ...I remember sam arellano,lawan and a bunch of others raced him in open or something and he cleaned house .I remember him being gone 4 awhile and rumopr was he had mono or something never heard what happened to them?
I googled todd hes everywhere!

That really is excellent information about Todd Hido. I also went on to art school and now work in insurance. It's great to see that he stick with it and is making it doing what he loves.

Wow Steve, I've been watching this thread for a couple of days...cool stuff.

Hey, those were some great compliments a couple pages back about being a clean rider....You know I'm riding for Dans Comp...right? You know these days we are "the dirtiest team ever" if you read the new school section. hahaha BMX breeds drama...nothing ever changes!!!

These are some great memories in here...I remember lots of the people who have already posted and I still see some of them at the races. As far as a reunion goes...It's too bad Akron doesn't have a race this year. There's always Louisville....

Jim

Steve

I need to quit messing around on the computer and Get that other copy of that DVD out too ya, I have no problem of you making, selling or sharing copies your not stepping on my toes, its just cool too still have that footage around to make into a DVD, I was watching my moto's on that DVD and was wondering why I was riding like I was scared or something, then My dad reminded me that I had sprained my ankle playing basketball 2 days before memphis and that is the reason I'm not riding very well, so when you get the rest of the footage and see my moto's dont make fun of me too much,,,,,,thats my excuse and I'm sticking to it LOL...

Jim, not sure you and I ever raced a bunch, but I just started racing again after a very long lay off and thought it was excellent to see you were still out here and having success.

I just moved up from Novice to Expert after some success in 35-40 novice at the INdy regional. So, perhaps we'll get to race and I can get a lesson from you!

Chris Cline

Oh by the way I have a date for the Reunion in Louisville and i talked to the track director and there will be racing if we get enough people, So you guys bring your butts down from Ohio and lets make this a day of racing eating and drinking some Beer,,go to www.derbycitybmx.org and the reuninon is going to be on the weekend that they have the battle of the Vills race,,,that is where the have a race day for riders from Nashville, Evansville, and louisville, But like i said they will let us have some races for the reunion, Derby city is going to be providing the food, Cost ?....Send me a PM anyone who is interested,,,Now Back to the OHIO racing stories,,

Joey

Dans cant be any worse the reggies right ?Just kiddin...I have seen the fla drama on the racin posts .Dont worry about that alot of your buddys stand up for you.
Joeys and the l ville bunch are having a old school reunion i plan to race the grands if in cripled from bmx by then ill try to be there letting my son race so either way ill shout out .Im going to try and hit waterford,nashville ,cleaves,maybe [gasp south park -hate that track] and grands this summer.What was your friend with the white frizzy hairs name jim?i remember racing him in spring city tenn when i turned pro he was in my mains and i cant think of his name- he was from your neck woods too i think and rode for reggies too i thought?
Oh btw i cant take credit its jeremy mudds thread [tifo] i woulda started one but i thought noone would answer me !

The date for the reunion in Louisville is July 26th,,,Like I said before come on down there will be racing so we all have time to get back into shape, and if you don't feel like racing well there is food and beer, I'm in touch with Mike lausman and Jimmy levan and i hope they can make it mike still lives here But Jimmy is out west, Steve you need to get your butt down here for a local race before then,,

I don't know who had white frizzy hair....I came to a lot of races with Rob Spencer but he was a red head...Are you thinking of Greg Boring? or the guy from Wapakoneta?? My memory is "rough" to say the least...sometimes I don't remember my own name!!!


Take it easy on the comeback...I'd like to see ya at the grands!!

I got the frizzy part right ,he was another super nice guy clean/ rider too..ever hear from him?Im pretty sure he was in my mains at my first pro race i think he did well that weekend.Is he in here?

Hi Chris,
I think you were a little younger than me...I think we overlapped a little though. I hope the riding's going well. Expert's not as cazy as people make it sound. We're still all out having fun on the bikes...maybe I'll see you in Waterford??

Jim

Cool stuff about Todd Hido, his work is very interesting.

Jim Wahl is famous too, USAC National Champion, congrats again bud.

Thanks Todd...I think I caught all the ABA guys off guard on the random gate....

BS

Jim, I think you are right about the age thing.

I do plan on making it to Waterford. It will be my first national as an expert. I also race (rather, fill motos) on cruiser as well.

Man, great thread. Thanks so much to all for checking in.....a lot of great names in here that have jogged my memory.

Frankly I don't think most of you would remember me. Back when I raced my parents did no support my racing AT ALL and never took me to races (well, maybe once or twice). Most of the time the only way I made it to races was if Chuck Fugate's mom or sister took me along with them. I had to pay for all of my own parts and races. If I did more than 8-10 races a year I would be suprised. By the time I quit I was an expert but frankly I wouldn't say I was a competitive expert. I'd say I was a decent begginer and novice, but by the time I turned expert at 15 the class was stacked here in Ohio. I was moto-filler most of the time, but I did get lucky every once in awhile and do OK.

After I left BMX I went to college, then got into car racing (USA PRO Rally), then started racing mountain bikes and road bikes (and also cyclocross) back in '94. Did that for years until I tapered off around 2003. Just rode mountain bikes casually until 2006, then went to watch my little brother race at Dayton Indoor BMX and thought it would be cool to give BMX a try again. And here I am. It hasn't been two years since I got back into it but I think I am more excited about it now and I am one of the few that would like to think I am faster now than I was "back in the day". That's not to say I am all that good now......just faster, LOL.

I remember back when I was 16 or 17 my mother gave me "the talk" about how bikes were a waste of time and I would end up being a bum. To give it up and find a sport that was more for adults. Well, years later I certainly am not good enough to get paid to ride (which we all wished for at the time) but I have been in the bike industry for a long time now and make a decent living at messing around with bikes all day. Being able to race BMX now in my late 30's is a bonus.

Thanks again for all of the great memories,

Jeremy Mudd

EDITED FOR SPEELING ERERRS.

ccline how ya been? I remember the GHP you rode, but what was the other bike you raced with their gear on? I am getting some more photos scanned to post so keep an eye out, I am sure you are in quite a few as we raced against each other a lot in our motos not to mention the mains.

I sent out an email to Todd Lyons to drag his butt over here to this forum, so lets see if he comes around.

louisvillebmx. I would be more than happy to help out on those DVD's. I can burn and send out as many copies as people want. Let me know.

Billy Ross

Jeremy- great post brother, good on ya for making your living with bikes





TL wouldn't be any fun, the numbnuts wrote everything down in a journal. That's like cheatin'


BTW- Todd will be the Woodbridge NBL national

http://www.sebmx.com/2008/news.asp?id=229

Steve-I know how you feel about getting beat by Troy. I had the pleasure of racing Troy every year since we where the same age. I remember thinking I was big [I tried to curse] in the state until I went down to Troy's home track and had a plate full of humble pie.

It's funny how a lot us only raced each other at certain times during the year due to overlapping birthdays. It would be great to see everyone line up on the gate in the 35 and over classes from BITD along with the new riders today.

Greg Boring

It didnt bother me much at all being beat by troy he was/is a good rider and rode very clean with me -even when he didnt have to.Troy earned his fame like a few of us on here it wasnt given to us o0n a platter .Its tough when another rider in your class gets more coverage/sponsorship/clout just because of who they are .
I teared up the first race i took my boy to,and after his first win in columbus 2 weeks ago too.
Mike and Tommy made me the rider i was ,i wanted to ride just like them.Btw mikey you and tommy are in the memphis dvd joey has and tommy won on sat i think [1 day anyway]

Billy PM me an address and i will make you a copy I'm not in it for money but i charged Steve Smith well because he is Steve Smith ..Just kidding Steve I'm busy as can be at work so It migh be easier if I just sent you a copy too Burn and pass on to everyone, there are a bunch of OHIO riders in the Memphis footage so I'm sure everyone will get a kick out of watching, But Keep it on the down low and dont tell Steve

Joey

You aint the only one.........cherish these days, before you know they are 6' tall 15 year old men.

I didnt mind paying i said i would pay big bucks to see it [im REALLY REALLY wanting the 85 memphis that cc has especially if it has my mains cause i raced with brad birdwell and brent romero .
And Galin has the 89 aba grands IM REALLY REALLY wanting that one too even though i got 5th in 17 over x it was on espn i think and ALL the big dogs from bitd were there and still ams such as steve veltman,kenny may,sam arellano,john purse,james prichard,matt hayden,todd lyons,lawan cunningham,bryan ruest,plus countless others.
If anyone has the 89 nbl grands i would do just about anything for a tape of it as well.

Btw if we ever have a ohio old school race i say we get SIT DOWN DONNY FITZWATER to announce!Didnt see that name coming did you!
I think i heard wildmans dad announcing some of the mains on joeys dvd last night .

Just a update on billy norman im not sure if he will check in or not ?
His sons 9 i think and billy takes him to race at dayton indoor often where me and my son race ,His dad got remarried and has kids with new wife,and is building windmills in ny i think,he said his sister and mom was doing well.Hes doing concrete now he said.

On the concrete subject i saw Doug zimmer about 3-4 years ago still skinny and looks same ,said he was doing concrete too and family was doing well i think he said he had a 5 year old or maybe even 2 kids back then?

John johnson from carlisle one of the middletown local riders and fast bitd has a 12 year old son named jarrod .Hes on the verge of a national #1 plate in 12x any year now and rides for excaliber. John still rides from time to time and im trying to get him back on a cruiser to ride with me.

There was some talk on a other 4x4 site i go to about a local riverstar bros and they were doing ok from what i heard [i forget thier name again but they were red headed rich hiesler would be able to tell me]i knew them well just cant remember thier name now both rode cyclecraft frames and clothes but were like co factory or just bought the gear themself.

Id like to say hi to chuck fugate even though i was prolly 15 when he quit i sat at kettering and was friends with him ,and shroyer too.

Bob said last night that the state finals are earned by the rider count ,new riders ,etc but he thought that it probably would be at kettering.I asked him about a old school reunion ,possibly a old school class[you guys would still need a liscense] -but we could run out own moto of us how ever we want.Basically he said the planning would be the worse part- but we could take care of that part our selves.
Any suggustions/ideas/intrest would push this from idea into reality?
This could be a precourser or plans for a 09 national in akron too if they get one.

Steve,
AntDog (a member on here from New Jersey) has a full set of great "rules" for a King of Old School Class. If I recall, they are doing it as part of the NJ state series.

Here are the specifics of Ant Dog's KOS series!! I found them on Museum and have posted them on the Ohio NBL site (months ago).

King of old School
Rider Requirements & other info
NBL license is required.
Helmets are required.(open face with mouthgaurd is allowed)
there is no age limit for this series. anyone from age 7 to 70 is welcome.
there will be a 10.00 entry fee. With all fees going toward the year end prizes. 100 percent goes back to the riders.
the top 3 will receive number plates and prizes.
This will be an open wheel class 20 24 and 26 inch if you have it.
bike requirements
SINGLE SPEED BIKES ONLY
NO CLIP PEDALS
NO THREADLESS HEADSETS
NO V BRAKES OR CANTI LEVER STYLE BRAKES
NO CASSETTE HUBS
(UNLESS THET ARE OLD SCHOOL SHIMMANO style HUBS)
NO CARBON FIBER PARTS

SCORING
This series will be run with the nj state series. We will use the nbl scoring system. But at the state finals it will be triple points. There will also be a show and shine at each event. If the person wins the show and shine and the race WITH THE SAME BIKE that person will receive 200 bonus points toward the year end title.this part of the event is only for bikes that are being raced. You are welcome to bring a bike and show it.
Savings bonds will be awarded as part of the year end prizes.
This class is for the guys who want to have some fun and show off their bikes.