Hello,
Does anyone have a knowledge of or a link to the history of Tuf Neck? In particular their stems. I've seen so many and am curious about one I have. I think it must be newer cause it has what looks like a screened on image of a Tiger. I've always assumed the older ones were stamped with Pro or Tuf neck. Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks,
Todd
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I have a old blue one from around 1980, that has nothing on the top. No image or stamps.
-R
-R
search history, there was good thread on this with the proneck/tufneck company switcheroo issue reported in bmxa. maybe last spring or winter. seems like pquinn did some of the history posts.
QUOTE (BridgeCity @ Feb 8 2008, 10:25 PM) 
search history, there was good thread on this with the proneck/tufneck company switcheroo issue reported in bmxa. maybe last spring or winter. seems like pquinn did some of the history posts.
Hello BridgeCity,
Thanks for the help. What would be the best/quickest way to search history to find this info? I'm a newbie here and when I search I come up with many threads that have those words. Thanks again for your help!
I have a dating resource on my site with some stuff:
www.martin-bike.com
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- Old School
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www.martin-bike.com
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- Old School
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Here is the one I can quickly find. seems like there was another that had the actual magazine scan posted. guess I don't remember who posted it. someone else surely has it to post though.
http://oldschoolbmx.com/community/index.ph...&hl=tuf+pro
http://oldschoolbmx.com/community/index.ph...&hl=tuf+pro
Martin,
Your website is first class!!! Well done!!!
First hand history from JMC/ACE.....
Going back to '75-'76....
I was growing up in Glendora, CA. I regularly raced at Covina Valley BMX track, as most of the original JMC riders did before Jim sponsored them... There were two brothers that use to race there regularly as well, pretty sure their first names were John and Greg, their last name was Lindsay..... Their dad owned a company that specialized in motorcycle drag racing components. The name of that company was Superbyke....
Bakton Ent. may have manufactured the stems for Mr. Lindsay (Superbyke) as they likely did manufacturing for his motorcycle products as well.The design and testing was Superbyke.... I was there,, the first time one showed up at the track (Covina). The Lindsay brothers had prototypes on their bikes and their dad had one in his hand..... How could i forget that!! This stem was totally different than anything we had ever seen before!!
All of the Tuf-Necks we see today are different from the originals...
The 1st version was simple it had the quill shaft pressed into the aluminum block and relied only on the wedge bolt to keep everything together. This wasn't working so well. After a bit of riding the stems would loosen and begin to creak.
The first upgrade...
Drill a hole in the back of the aluminum block that would protrude into the shaft and pin the two together in this manner. This was an attempt to lock the two pieces together and not realy on the wedge bolt alone to keep things in place.... This was an improvement but not the solution. The wedge bolt would still continue to loosen and the creaking would eventually appear as well.
The next upgrade is what you see today...
The shaft is pressed in and a hollow bolt secures the block and shaft together as one. The wedge bolt uses the top surface of the hollow shaft bolt to torque against instead of the aluminum block.... Problem solved!!! Thanks to the hollow shaft bolt, no more loosening of the wedge bolt and no more creaking.....
These upgrades were performed in a matter of a couple months...
If my memory serves me correctly, I remember people with the first two versions being able to trade in those for the final version. To find one of the first two versions is next to, well you get the idea....
Below is a scan of the original product, (1st version)
Original Superbyke decal.... Drag bike roots!!!
Your website is first class!!! Well done!!!
First hand history from JMC/ACE.....
Going back to '75-'76....
I was growing up in Glendora, CA. I regularly raced at Covina Valley BMX track, as most of the original JMC riders did before Jim sponsored them... There were two brothers that use to race there regularly as well, pretty sure their first names were John and Greg, their last name was Lindsay..... Their dad owned a company that specialized in motorcycle drag racing components. The name of that company was Superbyke....
Bakton Ent. may have manufactured the stems for Mr. Lindsay (Superbyke) as they likely did manufacturing for his motorcycle products as well.The design and testing was Superbyke.... I was there,, the first time one showed up at the track (Covina). The Lindsay brothers had prototypes on their bikes and their dad had one in his hand..... How could i forget that!! This stem was totally different than anything we had ever seen before!!
All of the Tuf-Necks we see today are different from the originals...
The 1st version was simple it had the quill shaft pressed into the aluminum block and relied only on the wedge bolt to keep everything together. This wasn't working so well. After a bit of riding the stems would loosen and begin to creak.
The first upgrade...
Drill a hole in the back of the aluminum block that would protrude into the shaft and pin the two together in this manner. This was an attempt to lock the two pieces together and not realy on the wedge bolt alone to keep things in place.... This was an improvement but not the solution. The wedge bolt would still continue to loosen and the creaking would eventually appear as well.
The next upgrade is what you see today...
The shaft is pressed in and a hollow bolt secures the block and shaft together as one. The wedge bolt uses the top surface of the hollow shaft bolt to torque against instead of the aluminum block.... Problem solved!!! Thanks to the hollow shaft bolt, no more loosening of the wedge bolt and no more creaking.....
These upgrades were performed in a matter of a couple months...
If my memory serves me correctly, I remember people with the first two versions being able to trade in those for the final version. To find one of the first two versions is next to, well you get the idea....
Below is a scan of the original product, (1st version)
Original Superbyke decal.... Drag bike roots!!!
I remember Tuff Neck had the tiger stamped on the top of their necks/stems in the early 80's. Around 83, 84. That's what everyone used to rid. Wonder what happend to all these companies? It seems like now is the time to retro everything.
Thanks to all y'all for your help!
Martin you site is tight man, tight!!!
Todd
Martin you site is tight man, tight!!!
Todd
QUOTE (jmc/ace @ Feb 9 2008, 12:55 PM)
Martin,
Your website is first class!!! Well done!!!
First hand history from JMC/ACE.....
Going back to '75-'76....
I was growing up in Glendora, CA. I regularly raced at Covina Valley BMX track, as most of the original JMC riders did before Jim sponsored them... There were two brothers that use to race there regularly as well, pretty sure their first names were John and Greg, their last name was Lindsay..... Their dad owned a company that specialized in motorcycle drag racing components. The name of that company was Superbyke....
Bakton Ent. may have manufactured the stems for Mr. Lindsay (Superbyke) as they likely did manufacturing for his motorcycle products as well.The design and testing was Superbyke.... I was there,, the first time one showed up at the track (Covina). The Lindsay brothers had prototypes on their bikes and their dad had one in his hand..... How could i forget that!! This stem was totally different than anything we had ever seen before!!
All of the Tuf-Necks we see today are different from the originals...
The 1st version was simple it had the quill shaft pressed into the aluminum block and relied only on the wedge bolt to keep everything together. This wasn't working so well. After a bit of riding the stems would loosen and begin to creak.
The first upgrade...
Drill a hole in the back of the aluminum block that would protrude into the shaft and pin the two together in this manner. This was an attempt to lock the two pieces together and not realy on the wedge bolt alone to keep things in place.... This was an improvement but not the solution. The wedge bolt would still continue to loosen and the creaking would eventually appear as well.
The next upgrade is what you see today...
The shaft is pressed in and a hollow bolt secures the block and shaft together as one. The wedge bolt uses the top surface of the hollow shaft bolt to torque against instead of the aluminum block.... Problem solved!!! Thanks to the hollow shaft bolt, no more loosening of the wedge bolt and no more creaking.....
These upgrades were performed in a matter of a couple months...
If my memory serves me correctly, I remember people with the first two versions being able to trade in those for the final version. To find one of the first two versions is next to, well you get the idea....
Below is a scan of the original product, (1st version)
Original Superbyke decal.... Drag bike roots!!!
Your website is first class!!! Well done!!!
First hand history from JMC/ACE.....
Going back to '75-'76....
I was growing up in Glendora, CA. I regularly raced at Covina Valley BMX track, as most of the original JMC riders did before Jim sponsored them... There were two brothers that use to race there regularly as well, pretty sure their first names were John and Greg, their last name was Lindsay..... Their dad owned a company that specialized in motorcycle drag racing components. The name of that company was Superbyke....
Bakton Ent. may have manufactured the stems for Mr. Lindsay (Superbyke) as they likely did manufacturing for his motorcycle products as well.The design and testing was Superbyke.... I was there,, the first time one showed up at the track (Covina). The Lindsay brothers had prototypes on their bikes and their dad had one in his hand..... How could i forget that!! This stem was totally different than anything we had ever seen before!!
All of the Tuf-Necks we see today are different from the originals...
The 1st version was simple it had the quill shaft pressed into the aluminum block and relied only on the wedge bolt to keep everything together. This wasn't working so well. After a bit of riding the stems would loosen and begin to creak.
The first upgrade...
Drill a hole in the back of the aluminum block that would protrude into the shaft and pin the two together in this manner. This was an attempt to lock the two pieces together and not realy on the wedge bolt alone to keep things in place.... This was an improvement but not the solution. The wedge bolt would still continue to loosen and the creaking would eventually appear as well.
The next upgrade is what you see today...
The shaft is pressed in and a hollow bolt secures the block and shaft together as one. The wedge bolt uses the top surface of the hollow shaft bolt to torque against instead of the aluminum block.... Problem solved!!! Thanks to the hollow shaft bolt, no more loosening of the wedge bolt and no more creaking.....
These upgrades were performed in a matter of a couple months...
If my memory serves me correctly, I remember people with the first two versions being able to trade in those for the final version. To find one of the first two versions is next to, well you get the idea....
Below is a scan of the original product, (1st version)
Original Superbyke decal.... Drag bike roots!!!
JMC ACE I would like to correct you on "the Lindsey's". Their names are NOT John and Greg - Their names
are Mike ans Randy that raced the Superbike Team . The reason I know this is because my brother raced
with that team - I too raced at Covina Valley. My number was 165. The Bustamante brothers. If you
would like to reply.......please do
annmarbus@aol.com
QUOTE (chilo @ Mar 13 2010, 03:20 AM)
JMC ACE I would like to correct you on "the Lindsey's". Their names are NOT John and Greg - Their names
are Mike ans Randy that raced the Superbike Team . The reason I know this is because my brother raced
with that team - I too raced at Covina Valley. My number was 165. The Bustamante brothers. If you
would like to reply.......please do
annmarbus@aol.com
are Mike ans Randy that raced the Superbike Team . The reason I know this is because my brother raced
with that team - I too raced at Covina Valley. My number was 165. The Bustamante brothers. If you
would like to reply.......please do
annmarbus@aol.com
There You have it I blew it on the Lindsay bros. names...... It's only been 33 years since the Covina days.
I remember The infamous Bustamante bros.!!! Your brother Jesus aka "Bootsy", (correct me if I'm wrong on the nickname???) rode for Superbyke. We all rode Covina together back in the day. I'm still in touch with the West bros., Steve & Ronnie.
It would be great to see You and your brother show up at some of the oldschool get togethers in So-Cal. There's a few good one coming up soon. I'll contact you via e-mail and give you some details.
You can contact me if you want @ jmc.ace@hotmail.com
THX for the info here on the early Tuf Neck.
Question, I have an early, first upgrade, Tuf Neck bottom that I am going to put on my Sentry for period correctness. I am looking for a donor top and clamp bolts which seems fairly "generic" to the brand in the square corner style. But the wedge and wedge bolt are where I am unsure. Were they the same as the later models? Thanks for any info that can be provided.
eric
Question, I have an early, first upgrade, Tuf Neck bottom that I am going to put on my Sentry for period correctness. I am looking for a donor top and clamp bolts which seems fairly "generic" to the brand in the square corner style. But the wedge and wedge bolt are where I am unsure. Were they the same as the later models? Thanks for any info that can be provided.
eric
Great! That is exactly what I have. THX for the picture.
eric
eric
the part that confuses me Eric is we both have the same stem base and the same stem top on it.
my stem base has been stripped, it was also originally black. don't know what year that top is. If you want to look era correct get the top onto a belt sander and get rid of the writing.
my stem base has been stripped, it was also originally black. don't know what year that top is. If you want to look era correct get the top onto a belt sander and get rid of the writing.
Since I started collecting in 1998, that is the first pinned stem I have seen surface. Nice.
QUOTE (broke L345 @ May 11 2010, 01:57 AM)
thanks Ben, I got it by accident, I bought a bike and for the sake of ease, told the seller just to send the F/F. then I had another look at it, I couldn't figure out what the stem . it looked like a tuf neck but the bolt was wrong. I asked him to send me a few more bits from the bike. lucky me. 
some times things go well.
some times things go well.
Mine is the same way I'll try to get a picture.
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