You can count on me, besides I knew you'd find the post you ol hound dog

missed ya at vegas

Sorry--I flew back home to spend time with the family during that time.

I raced/rode with Pflug on Team Ferb down here in Tucson before he rode for Colour Control. He was fast and smooth and used to battle with Philiparts <sp?> quite a bit back then (if I remember correctly). I think he works at a car dealership nowadays....not sure though. Coulor Control had a stacked team, that was for sure. One Tucson guy I rode with some before he went up the Phx to work for the ABA was Matt Eggiman. Super cool guy.
There weren't too many fast guys from down here in Tucson in the mid/late 80's really. We did have a decent dirt jumping scene though. We used to go up to Black Mountain, Chandler and Scottsdale and get beat on pretty good. I do remember jumping the canal across the street from Chandler during the Winter Nats...that was always fun.

Hey does anyone remmber the track, on I think it was Indian School or Camelback in the 30s aves.It would of been 75-76.I raced there a few times.Was not very good but had fun.My mother would take me and my brother there.We had a 74 pinto stationwagon, 1 bike in back the other on the roof rack.I grew up with Wallace and Ladmo.Gerold,Marshal Good,Aunt maud,.They would of been on longer if Ladmo wouldn"t of had cancer.35 years on the air is a long time.Saw them at fair,legond city,Kiddyland.does any one remmber that place.It was on oak and 44 st.It was on the s-w corner.Al so by Thomas Mall.I lived in az 37 years moved to Missouri.I used to go to Barberries Bike Barn,To get all my bmx stuff in the 70s.Good old days Mark Campbell.I lived by 40 st and Indianschool.1969-81.

Hey mark, what's happinin? The Track I think you are talking about was Andalucia at 45th av and Camelback. Do you remember crossing grand Av to get to it? It was on the south side of Camelback next to a funiture wharehouse. The Bike barn was still there at 36th st and Indianschool in 2005 when I left. wasn't there a track for a short time at Tower plaza? Living on that side of towm you must have raced Castleview, Scottsdale Jaycee's and Reservation. Phx was a cool place to be a kid in the 70's and 80's. You wouldn't recognize it now, that's one of the reasons I left, but I still get home sick for it.

My avatar pic is from Andalucia in 75

I heard some great AZ. race stories this past weekend at the ABA Winter Nats in Phoenix. After the event was over on Sunday Fred Hightower, Troy Robinson, Hubert Woods , and my co-worker Bill Morris were all hangin' out talking about the good 'ol days. Some pretty funny stuff when they are all together. Some things I can't repeat on this site. LOL!!!!!!

Hi cheez,Thats the track. I only raced a few times at that track.Thats were my cousin raced.I don"t remmber tower having one.That was are main mall.Went to movies almost every weekend there.An ice skating.Tower hobbies was the best store there.Wish I had all the models I bought from them.

Man I wish I could have been there to swap stories with them it would have been a gas!



Ah, Ice Pallace East, I was a Ice Pallace West sider, funny it was almost like being in a gang. The IP east Hockey guys didn't like the IP west Hockey guys. Tower Plaza (not called that anymore) was still there in 2005 including the ice rink and there was still a nightclub on the east end. most of the west end was torn off to build a new anchor store. Park central mall was cool, they had a "Food Bazzar" much better than a food court you could get ethnic food from something like 12 different countries there. We lived at 12th street and Camelback for a couple months until our house was ready to move into at 45th av and Rose Lane back in 66. My Dad and Brother walked down to Reed Mullin Ford at 16th street and my dad bought a brand new 1966 Galaxie 7 ltr 4spd w/dual quad option. That was such a bad arse car and there was nothin like cruisin Central. Man, the good ol days

Chuck, Did you race the 76 state fair race ? Cause i know my younger brother (12yr)and i (14yr) raced it along with the Battles Mike (15yr) and Rusty (11yr), also i think a guy named Ed (bigfoot),
I was talking about it to my younger bro the other day and he mention some guy named pasquilly he used to race.

Yep I raced it, and I knew all those guys. Ed "Bigfoot", I wish I could remember his last name. Pasquilly, it was pronounced Pass-qual-ee. He and his older Brothers Raced MX at the Beeline MX park as well as ADRA out in Buckeye. That's were I met them. Me and the Clucas brothers raced MX against them, as well as Chappy Mike, Bill Blose, and the nut cases from County Cycle. We were getting support from Southwest Yamaha on 55th ave & Grand. That's kinda how Jeff Clucas and I happened to be in the State Fair Race. We rode two Yamaha Motobikes to show-off and generate sales of them for Southwest Yamaha.

One of my fave if not fave area of any track was the Chandler drop in and the jump out...you could almost leap over the corner/tires at the top and into the berm! Only in AZ can you build those drop ins. In Mn we would call it a mud pit. Chandler had that tricky flat hairpin(took me out in the 1983 Winternat's )-something you just dont see anymore.

BONZAI!!!!!!! Loved jumping down into that thing! If you landed perfect and pumped down, you were able to launch out crazy high!

The decision maker in the 90's allways killed me! I would be in first and allways took the wrong route and would get passed never failed!!!

BONZAI!!!!!!! damn straight buddy that was the best part on the track. deffinately didn't want to get pushed over the top of that berm

The 55 MPH speed limit sign at the first berm was cool too

The Gilbert track was almost identicle to Chandler

Wow, I had to join after reading this thread. My name is Bill Arrendale and raced for Green Machine in 74 -75. My team mates were Jimmy Roberts, Tony Bell, Kenny Jones, Scott Novatni, and Deron Starks. The pic attached was taken at PXA, I was riding Kenny Jones bike because I broke my A1 frame in practice that morning. Click to view attachment

I believe the Arizona guy you are referring to was Ed "Big Foot" Timmson (sp?). I raced him once in Amarillo, Texas circa 1978.

well i happen to come acrossed this site and i am glad i did wow what a lot of memories just reading your guys's posts, I am out at blackmountain again and the Race For Life is this weekend with a huge carnival and all!

Looking forward to bs'n with you guys! man how times have changed in racing the moto count is in half and it sure as hell aint as fun as it used to be and for all of you that know Todd Kelley he finally got engaged!

It's about time you showed up Mike. You have some deep AZ roots. Post up some pix brother.

Shannon @ ABA BMX

LEGEND CITY.. you guys are killing me. Oh to be 14 again. The Phoenix firebirds played there and you used to sit by the train tracks and wait for home run balls.

I went to HS with Eric Garcez, that guy is as big as a house now, works out like 25 hours a day... Anyone remember Todd Lauderon? He was pretty good bitd, I think he raced for CW. Man I miss AZ sometimes...

Mike!!! Thanks for the Hoops yesterday!! Now if you seem to dig up anymore of your stuff you know i work less than 1/2 mile away from your house!!!

Welcome.

Timmson that's the dude, altho I believe it is spelled Timpson

Behind the 7-11 on 67th and Olive 80' - PK Ripper

Wheelies in the driveway 51st and Olive - KHS

67 th & Olive, you wouldn't recognize that area now

51st & Olive, did you go to Apollo High,and did you know Mike & Terry Payne?

Cheez,

Just found this string. Tom Catchings here (Ketchings). Great to see some names I recognize. Not sure I agree I wasted my talent:). Still talk to the Paynes once in awhile. Mike is in Surprise AZ and Terry lives in Flagstaff. I am in north phx. By the way Tony Bell was fastest.

Tom

Chuck. Tom Catchings here. How the hell are ya:)

DUDE WTF! how the hell are ya. Don't supose you still have your Pro Line. I have a Profab Pro and a Mini. my original one cracked. What are Mike and Terry doing ? I've ran into Darrin Beach a few years ago, but haven't seen him in a while. I didn't think Tony was that fast. Ed " Big Foot" and Buckwheat where FAST. What was the name of guy that the Paynes knew who also went to Apollo and eventually rode for Road Runner, he had the Hot sister, and lived just south of Orangewood, East of 43rd av.? Living in IL now. Moved from Phx to Quincy Ca., back to Peoria, now in IL. My folks moved to Montana in 2004. Nice to see ya around. There are alot of AZ guys here. One of these days we are comming back for a visit (my mother-in-law lives in Peoria) and I'll have to hook up with you, the Paynes along with Tidy, Haselhorst, Peter and all my other VBMX buds. Do you remember Jeff Girrard? He was that heavy guy who had the Red Line Square back and always wore the Gilligan type hat, with the mad jumping skills? He's on here as azmudpuppy. It's great to talk with ya, tell Mike I said Hi, better yet if you see him, slug him in the arm first, then tell him I said Hi.

Dude you had the skills and speed, we just could hardly ever get you out to race

Well I did start to race less in 80-81, but I had been at it hard since 74. Besides I do remember winning more when I raced less. Not sure how that works. Terry works at WL Gore in Flag, married couple of kids. Mike lives in surprise married 4-5 kids and is self employed in the A/C business. T. Bell was the only guy that never lost in a national that he entered. Just didn't enter many. Man I don't remember that dude. I raced early oin for RR and lived on Oranagewood. The only guy I remember south that raced once in awhile was Jeff Fraser. Go Hawks.

Guys I remember:

Early Early days (74-77 and close to my age) - Miller brothers (Mothers Custom), Tony Bell, Darren Beach, John Baer, Carl Webster. I will keep thinking. Bringing back memories

I think Gore employs allmost everyone in Flag, I know people who work there. Does Mike still studder or did he grow out of it? I remember their dad worked at Associated Grocers. I remember you living over by Rose Lane park . Jeff Fraizer was the guy, my age, talked alot of crap but could never beat me. I remember your sister was pretty cute too. Man, do you remember the stench from that Squirt factory over there by the Yellow Front store used to give off, AAAARG! Or riding thru the Barrio on the west side of 51st ave ? Remember Terry thumpin the crap out of rich kid Chris, or playing bike tag in the town house complexes for hours? So what are you doing these days? Hey, weren't you Apollo's Home coming King one year? I kinda remember giving Mike and Terry some help Razzing you about it.

GO LIONS!

Wow great memeories. Tag was the best and racing in the Payne's front yard around his brothers car. Ah yes 51st ave, but no one could catch us. Skinny Chris. Remember him well. I was home coming king runner-up:) Anyways, I am the CIO of a company owned by banks that provide payment and idenity fraud systems. So do you ride anything anymore. Got rid of my proline when I went to college. Wish I had kept it. I have no pictures of any of us. Do you?

I remember their street, all the yards had berms because they had irregation, it was fun jumping all of them on the way down the street. I won't be the bearer of bad news and tell you how much your pro line would be worth now. That bike was Bad Arse. It was white, correct, with red 7c's, Bellseyes, RL Double clamp stem, Tall V bars, red post, Schwinn Block scrambler gum wall front, comp 3 rear tire. I think we all ran the scrambler tire, the sound they made on smooth concrete was so cool. I work for the City of Champaign Fire Dept as a Building plans reviewer. Moved here to be the Building Official of a small south Chi town suburb, but that was to political and I wouldn't dance. Got into Building inspection/ plan review after an accident working High Steel as an Iron Worker. I have four kids 19,17,10, and 8. my oldest daughter is in the Air force, my oldest son probably will go in to. 3 of them used to race but quit. I started racing again in 2003 at Black Mountain Winter Nationals, and got my Arse handed to me. Kept up with the local races and started winning again. I'm currently not getting much racing in because I live over 2 hrs from a ABA track and am not a big fan of NBL. I still ride as much as I can both BMX and Road. You should come out for the Rockford Gathering (just click on the banner) it is freakin wild! PM me your e-mail and I'll shoot ya some pic's, don't have any of you or Paynes tho, just some of me racing. The rest somehow got tossed by ex wife back in 86, I had a bunch. Even pic's of Road Runner. You know that shop still exists. 67th ave and Deer Valley. The guy who owns it bought it from Bob (tall dark haired 1/2 then full owner) he moved from 43rd and Bethany Home a long time ago.

This just came to mind. Bike tag rule #1 DO NOT T-BONE WHEELS, lest you get your arse kicked

Terry had a really short fuse

See Cheez, you need to move back to AZ. were your roots are!

Shannon I was thinking the same thing!!!
I am thinking about making my comeback to racing tomorrow night. We will see if I have to work Saturday morning, if so then I will have to wait it out till the next weekend. Went to Chandler last Friday and go that itch deep down in my belly(which is HUGE) and want to get back in there and drop some Pounds and have FUN again!

Carl was one big dude. I remember at reservation raceway, he was riding what I think was a Race Inc. Off the gate he basically broke the frame just with his push on the pedal. He then borrowed another Race Inc., wrecked and broke it in half. Meat was actually a year older so I did not race him too often, but thanks for the compliment.

Tom

I'll let you be the one to tell my wife, you just better have better reflexes than she does.

Cowboy up and make your return at a National with 10+ year old iron, and get your Arse handed to ya from Guys like Crisco, Wayne, Pliska, and the others like I did

I liked reservation, didn't race there much because it was clear on the other side of town.

Do you remember the 3 lap enduro races at Castleview? I won a few of those. I was running cross country for Alhambra at the time and did most of my passing after a lap and a 1/2, could have gone a couple more. Crap now, after a couple of hard laps back to back at practice I feel like I'm about to spew. Sucks getting old


Hey Tom, how did you stumble across the site?

So Chuck how bad were you beaten? What did you run? Clips or Flats? So these guys are still fast?

Like a bango with Rickie Ricardo at the helm

That race there were 32 riders in 36-40 cruiser I was in the rack with the fastest guys, and didn't make it out of the semi's

Flats till death! Clips belong on road bikes, that's a hot topic around here

Fast,................oh yeah, even after some of them crash into each other and break bones

Galen Starlin, former mid 80's pro came back after years off and was killing it, now I think he is some dirt farmer in Missery some where (whach Shannon Galen will sniff this one out)

Stu Thompson shows up at a National once and a while and ruins everyone's chances too. Damn that guy, I'm in his class now too. Its cool just to have a chance to be racing with a BMX Legend.

Woody Woodruff is still racing and makes custom bike frames in Tempe, remember him? He was a Chandler and Gilbert Hot Shue

I was a member of the site a few years ago but couldn't remember my handle or email address so resigned. I am not too far from Black Mountain so maybe I will give it a look. Would need some time to get into shape like most 46 year olds:) Very cool that you raced. I wish I had checked it our 5 or 6 years ago, but this OS stuff seems to be getting pretty popular.



Yea. Never ran the indurance. I was quick, but never in great shape for longer hauls. Sprinter:)

Yes you are right--sniff......sniff

Buddha..What's up buddy? I met you out at Chandler last week and bs'd for awhile. I think you should get back on the bike, it keeps us all young. Chandlers track is only two miles away so I'm usually out there every Tues and Fri night. Come on out and we'll try to keep up with all the superfast kids/girls/10 yr.olds/etc. that go out there!!

Galen..I'm an Ohio/Arizona transplant as of a year and a half ago. Are you still in the Phoenix area and do you know what any of the Arizona dirty dozen riders are up to these days. I think the article was from sometime during the summer of 91 in BMXA. I know you posted a picture from it recently in one of the other forums.

NBL49 (Steve, I think)...good to see you out on the track riding the Holmes (awesome bike!). If you guys keep coming out to race, I might actually sign up instead of just practicing and leaving.

I can always count on you

Yeah If you had checked it out 5 years ago we probably would have run into each other then. I organized a semi good sized VBMX display at the 2004 Winters at Black Mountain, Reilley1 brought 30+ bikes

I was more of a sprinter too, used to kick the crap out of all the other guys on the Cross Country team when we did wind sprints, did it bare foot too (on the Football field) Running Cross Country was good training for BMX. It provided strength and endurance. We have a complete gym in the basement of the Fire House I'm in and I spend alot of time on the bike, elipticle, and leg machines.

I want to put my 2 cents in too. I remember about the neck accident at Roadrunner Park Track. Back in 97 I snaged a DG out of the attic of the Sun Cyclery on Cactus and 32nd Street. My VDC Gorila was bought from some guy that looked like Carrot Top from the Bike Barn. He had it all rigged up like a "mountain bike". 18 speeds and everything. This was in 87 or so. I rode the hell out of that in the mountain preserves by Dreamy Draw. The only things I would have to contend with was other "punks' on 20 inchers or Horses! Still have the VDC but its a single speed.

WELCOME!

How long ago did you score the DG? You got pretty lucky to have them look or let you look up there. I was in there around 04 and those guys were jerks when I asked about OS BMX stuff, The guy's that were there then were hard core Roadies , and acted like BMX was a disease, what dorks

So i went out to Black Mountain Saturday night to get a lay of the land. Just watched while sitting on my new 2008 OM Crusier. May have to give is a shot. Like everyone my brain says I could still hang:)

Have fun on the cruiser. If I remember correctly you didn't race them BITD either. It was a bit difficult getting used to at first. They say they are more forgiving of mistakes than 20s but I don't really buy that. I was much more comfortable on my 20, but race both. Yes your brain will say you can still do it, it's getting your body to finnally agree with your brain that is the tricky part. You remember the Tandem The Paynes had? That thing was alot of fun. Raced a couple of times with Mike on that.

I forgot about the tandem. I agree I don't see the cruiser as more forgiving. I practice with both a 24 and 20. Just going to go out and put around see how things feel. Did some sprints last night.

Cheez, sorry was away for awhile. I went to Glendale not Appolo. I lived on 55th ave and 51st was the cut off for the two schools.