QUOTE (Todd E @ Oct 25 2008, 02:56 AM)

Them Derby City Grands pics rule. Shows the newer folks what it was like twenty + years ago. Grands packed with people and a track that actually had BMX jumps instead of 4 stroke Kawasaki needed dirt mountains that are useless to the majority of racers. From what I've seen from recent video and pics of that track the first three straights are basically filled with jumps that are so big the majority of riders ride up the face of them, across the top and then down the backside. The jumps are just too big to where it's hard for most to jump them or it's slower to jump them. I can hear people now when seeing it for the first time:
"Where is the BMX track? This looks like an MX track."

The first three straights need reworked. As it is it probably scares new people off and makes regulars get bored or disgusted easily.
First straight: make the roller bigger, step up style first jump looks fine, make the table a doable by most double with a nice long backside that smoothly blends into turn one
Second straight: make the roller bigger, shorten the first step up in length and make the landing side taller so one is actually jumping upwards and landing on a nice sloping backside, shorten the second step in length and make its transition into the second turn pavement landing better
Third straight: take the table and make it a roller/table by shortening the length of the table and putting a roller before it, first double needs to be made into a doable by most step up where you actually jump upwards onto the landing side and have a nice long backside, second double needs to be made to where it's doable by most and do so by making it shorter in length and height with a long backside
Rest of the track looks fine.
Them Grands pics show a track configuration where it was so fast to race on and the jumps weren't Joey Chitwood Stunt Show obstacles like today. Well, even back then they were big obstacles to my hillbilly self that just ramped my BMX onto flat ground over here in the hills regularly.

Hey todd good analogy on the kawasaki comment .
The second jump is stupid.
The table coming out of the 1st turn is stupid ,these both are ride up across and down jumps [allthough i did jump the second one its still stupid]
The step into the second turn is hairy i jumped it some a month before the grands [the week before they stretched it a foot or 2 and made the launch taller=i didnt even try it at the grands]
evansvills step in thier second turn was awesome it popped you right over they need one like that .
OR just dont do anything with it the way it is its hard enough now [dont screw with it next year took me long enough to get it right.
The 3rd straight is very crowded and virtually no room to pass[the 1st straight and second is really the only places to pass]
I like the 3rd straight but it makes it virtually race over at the second turn unless you screw up.I like to pedal and there isnt no pedalling that 3rd straight anywhere at all.
The last straight was so beat down in 1 line in the middle there was no passing there ,and the way it turns theres no outside line .The finish/straight should be toward the gate or make the turn at the last turn to straighten the last straight.
But im a nobody ,have raced the grands 8 times/years though .