Thanks Ben...

EMPI if you are refering to my faith when you say forgive and move on I must tell you that my faith in Jesus Christ has never been stronger than it is today...But that is not the issue in this thread. Just like so many things that go off in other directions on the internet basically this thread is so far out of wack that even if you were here on the first page it was going out and away from the topic..Everyone got bent and took it back to what happened months ago, the drama of people moving on and starting something on their own but that is not the issue either...Ben basically covered 100% of the actual topic here with what he said earlier..

However if so many people are still bent over the past drama and really are so quick to make judgements on what took place in the past well then perhaps it might be a good idea to just lay it all out, we could do that..We could just put all the e mails out there huh, everyone will get a clear picture of what took place last May..

I do not have anyone to forgive, I was not wronged, my family not hurt..This is internet drama, he said she said stuff or as most may agree it's entertainment..If you do not like the entertainment you simply change the channel...Having said that Im more feeling like I need to send a big thank you out to VBMX and the host of mods they have and our good buddy Ken Pliska, if not for them www.bmxactiononline.com would of never been born..

THANKS GUY'S!

Greg

Just remember, there are always two sides to every story....

Greg, I'm sorry for judging you or anybody, I was born again 2 years ago and it was hard to make changes. still is. I never knew what was going on, till I read this thread.
Alot of times I would scan off BMXA and post on sites. asking questions on this part or whatever, hot shots, so basically I cant do that now? of course, I'm not making a penny off it, just information, or sharing what happened bitd. etc

Ben, thanks for clearing that up, ususally I would not "butt" in, but those guys were my idol bitd. Including Greg and OZ. Heres my SOB story, and im sure it impacted alot of kids also, My mom married 5 times before I graduated from Highschool, and from a very poor and abusive family, I had no father, just bunch of loser step dads... BMXA were my escape, Riding BMX were my freedom.


and i'm a member on www.bmxactiononline.com


anyway sorry and hope this gets resolved soon..

you also need to realize that GHP is still a site sponsor.
he may have started his own site but he still supports this one.

Ding, ding ding, we have a winner, and he comes here to check in. Sometimes people change, move on, what have you. Greg went with Oz in a different direction. When everything went down, it must have been while I was in the hospital, and I while bummed the place looked different when I came back. But that being said, time for the VBMX crew to head in its direction and get back to the fun of BMX

I dont look at it that way, This site has 10k members, and it's probably the biggest Vintage BMX related site there is, and a very good place to advertise and sell parts.

I wonder how long the contract is?

Amen!

Oh, man, that's a classic post right there. Bravo!

Greg,

I have to say you are a man of character and I'm impressed by your integrity. Keep on Rollin'

Good Luck with BMXAO!

Chris

Need it autographed?

it's good to see stu and greg here.
mike

Well my gosh, this thread has brought even you back!
Nice to see you over here.
I'll pass on the autograph.

I'd pass on that too. It could have been a alias name like "Wolverine " or "Red Wing"

ha, for that joke Stu seemed the most visual image of virility and strength. sorry for any offense.

Stu, if you are still around the site, check out this site. they'd get a kick out of your showing up at the party.
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=52597.0

Exactly!

Oz was quite the leach on that freestyle compilation and what's even funnier is how Greg Hill tries to poo poo his site with Oz just waltzing over there to become a "member". I mean c'mon, do these guys think we're still 12 believing everything they print....... similiar how Oz shunned the East Coast to favor West Coast rider/top paying ad sponsors back in the day in his mag (ooops, did I just print THAT as well).

hahahaha

Other than brokebackbridgecity wanting his "STRAP" signed by Stu (J/K) .... a thread like this REALLY does bring out the OS truth here. We are have grown up NOW (most) and understand that life makes changes, as long as we keep in mind, that the young that we have admire people like the NASCAR drivers (not me) "left turn" people will be there someday where "OZ....and others" are with this in the future...

So knowing what we all admired BITD, was CRAP (can I say that Elvis?) is good to know now, but it doesnt change my love and respect for the sport of BMX in general... Well. except for Stu bending over the banner tape with a Sharpie scribbling his name on Bridges' crotch (can I say crotch Elvis?)

Still its all good in the end. Me not loving OZ and GH'ULOSER is my opinion, and no one else's deal, just mine right now (and back in the early 80's), the idol's I had and still have (Stu are you gonna send that pic sometime?) are still strong with what I remembered way back when, and was what has brought me what I am doing now...Loving and supporting the sport. It's all good in the end....

You might want to rethink that one. You're walking away from a big Ebay sale circa 2040.

"Dirty Laundry"

Irony or Metaphor? Elvis, a little help here please...








Talk about a target rich environment

..... I thought this thread was in the rear view mirror, but now that Stu is signing jock straps (awesome Stu!), it all smells fresh as a daisy again!.....

This is much better than watching monkeys throw poo at the zoo! lmao.....

Not when that Monkey bullseyes my sister-in-law, it was great!

Keep talkin' funny guys! But I'm not backing you up when we get called out for that game of lawn darts.

oh geesh! the jock incident.... oh my. he he he.

to be honest for just a sec, last year Stu was pretty cool on the site. Seemed like the kinda down to earth dude that would be fun to chat with if our kids were at the same birthday party at Chuck E Cheese. but my only question, is why did you up and jump ship when Oz drew the line in the sand. oh well, we all gotta choose sometimes....

and I'm still getting a kick out of this thread as it is bringing folks together. "all I am say-ying is give peace a chance." well kumbayah, kimosabe's!

Hello -

Stu has posted here all along. I've spoken with several of the old pros about this. Many of the guys post on several sites. Most everyone didn't choose sides. Rather they choose to stay clear and not choose sides. It's resonable that they would post more around the people they grew up with and know. We all do the same.

Let it go and let's get back to bikes. I just bought a Mirraco 20Forty yesterday....

Good point, and yeah, Stu's been posting all along.

I think playing into the "whose side are you on?" stuff just makes you part of the same silly game which led to the Balkanization in the first place. Just be who you are and do what you do.

If you don't agree with me I'll ban you.

(That was a joke.)






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(No it wasn't.)






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(Yes it was.)

"I ban you. Shoo."

Cool, this is all entertainment from my angles, but I PM'd our moderator Ben privately to clarify anything otherwise.

Have a good weekend you guys.

Stu is the most stand up guy I have ever met. He will not do politics.

He does make sure his sponsor gets props even when he does not wear a Jersey. Last Sat. at the Orange Y.

THAT is a cool pic! ride on stu!
mike

Exactly.

I noticed alot of banners on this site is on the other site, I believe Rick made those.

so when do we get to see this photo of ozzy osbourne riding the bike while wearing a diaper?

This is not another addition to any drama.

I just noticed something while looking at the picture of Stu. This sport of BMX is in OUR blood. Just take a close look at Stu's face. That my friends is intense !! Even if I can't ride as well as Stu or many other people in our sport, I can experience that same feeling, whether it's by riding my bike or looking at others ride their bikes.

So, I was right. It is in our blood. Sometimes there is good blood, sometimes there is bad blood, but it will always remain in our blood. I love this sport.

Rebel

I have a picture that I can not yet post of him a foot out of the gate. He does not like to lose. Even to the first jump.

He is planned to take part in a photo shoot for a magazine and is getting some jumping practice in.

In all seriousness, I keep thinking about 2 things that were stated early on here.

1. Elvis wouldn't lock it because, "a little airing of the laundry can be good".

2. The observation that this thread "has brought the group together rather than divide it".


I'm going to add another: There seems to be some glimpses of tattered white fabric in the wind on the horizon, and hints of some fence mending being initiated as a result of 1 and 2.

Indeed, somebody drew a line in the sand, and now it's being crossed. The more traffic across it, the more it gets erased. ....and that is a good thing.

Ironically, it was the initial "crossing via delegate via messenger", rather than crossing it in person, that initiated it all.

Dirty diapers, dirty jock straps, lawyers.... All tend to get a little stinky. Airing them out can be a good thing. However, getting caught with them hanging out on your clothes line is usually less than desirable.

Props to many, for efforts being made to wash a little dirty laundry here.

At risk of being or sounding and acting like a faux moderator, I believe, but you can think otherwise, that for pushing 50 Stu is rocking on his bike. You must agree with me or I will "will" you off the site.

Please note that I don't want you to take this to mean that I am telling you to ride a Redline, that jumping is safe and without risks or that Greg is never grumpy. I like Ken Pliska (even though Spell check tries to make me call him Ken Plasma), Bill Curtin, Gary Haselhoff, Greg Hill and Stu Thompson. I really don't like dirty laundry or old freaks that whine too much about people they never actually met.

But I really think jock strap stories are funny and a great read! They are absolutely brilliant!

Then again this has absolutely nothing to do with Oz or this thread. The internet thing is wonderful and *%$@ed up.

Carefull there, I believe Elvis said we can not spell our BAD words in a creative manner... DA%^$^%$%^$iT! J/K there Elvis, I know you work your a$$ off on here

Ben

I started to think you liked me but it is that Haselhoff guy.

Stu Hijack

I got the chance to be involved with the planning of the Chula Vista Olympic Training Track Ribbon Cutting and shoot some pictures for one of the site sponsors. I could not see heading to that area of town and not meet up with some friends. Stu and I hooked up at the Orange Y on Sunday so Pinto shot some pictures. Anthony Sewell road shotgun on monday.
This is the face of a winning racer.


Jumping

Stu at the Ribbon cutting with some very cool friends!

I tell you what I have no clue what has been going on I just recently joined VBMX and BMXAO and have been away from the sport of BMX for the last 20 years, I haven't looked at a bike rode a bike looked at BMX magazine or web site that had anything to do with BMX until nov 2007,

I guess I'm going to put my .02 in here we all loved and still love BMX, or we wouldn't be on these web sites, I assume these sites were started for the love of BMX and to try and stay in contact with all the old racers (national and local) from back in the day, tell some stories here and there, help the collectors sell and trade their stuff, you get the point,

my point is didn't we all grow up, who cares who did what to who, or who had their toe's stepped on, or their little feelings hurt, I was under the impression when I stumbled onto these sites that they were here for the history of BMX, and to keep in touch with old friends maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me lately like a bunch of juvenile crap

maybe some guy's feel slighted by some of the legends in the sport after all every one of us felt like we knew them personaly, we seen them at the nationals we went to and in the great magazines that came in the mail each month, like I said I have no clue what has been going on but I think the world is big enough for 2 3 4 or 5 web sites just like BMXAO and VBMX, let the ego's go guy's let's just enjoy the history of the great sport we loved as kids,,,,BMX...

Joey Sears

Gary, that last pic is one of the coolest I have ever seen. Legends indeed.

SHOCK HORROR ! thats whats wrong with this old school bmx ... theres too many brown nosers .... get a back bone mate and speak your mind , your'e turing into a jellyfish . Its ok preaching to us "not famous" , any old school "names" and "yous" crawl under a stone ....The OM RIP OFF BEING #1

If it wasnt for "us in the sites like VBMX" now they wouldnt even exist anymore .

So get your nose out of the "legends ###" and appreciate the 100,000 worldwide thats keeping this sport alive and you collection prices up .

say what you want to , it might not be what others want to hear BUT they will respect you for it !

look at all the smothing over ....Ahhhhhhh

i dont get on here much anymore , but read this tread from the start like i did .

From my involvement with the vintage bmx scene (from about 2000), it seems as though the 'collectors' ie non riding types get a little sensitive at times. I say lighten up, its all about grown men riding little kids bikes. *Group Hug*

jesse d

exactly mate , "legends as described" throwing hissy fits and trying to sue or sealing peoples money while being protected by the BMX "long timers" we look up to dont cut the bloody mustard ?


people are scared to say in case it makes them look bad , BUT there is a topic on VBMX right NOW called NEGATIVE to incriminate ANYONE who ANYONE here feels they had a bad deal with to warn other VBMX'ers of their experience , except the big guys !!!! .... ozzybmx got ripped off by scott breihaupt and the thread got SCRUBBED/DISSOLVED in 1 day . there are hunderds of guys got stung also and all the big named guys (you know who you are) knew it was going to happen. BUT DIDNT WARN US .... but had loads to say in his defence !

FACT : just cause you could ride a BMX back in the day doesn't make you a good person now !

I'm with Joey, this is supposed to be about fun. I have fun on all the sites, and if it wasn't fun, then why be involved. As "adults", during our regularly scheduled day, don't we have enough crap to stress over.

Call it brown nosing all you want, but I think its awesome that some of our childhood heroes browse this site. It's too bad there aren't more. Where are the Patterson bros, Ronnie and Ritchie Anderson, Mike and Eddie King, Pistol Pete Loncaravich, Tim Judge, Toby Henderson All the freestyle pros etc..I could go on and on with guys that made a living at one point in time off us buyng their products and they are nowhere to be found. All this drama means nothing to me. Greg Hill, Stu and the few others that post here will get a regular anal cleansing from my nostrils because this is the internetz where dignity is camouflaged with anonymity.

EEEWWW!!!

Is tha even physically possible? And if it is...........to quasi-quote Red..."EEEWWWWEEWWWWWW!!!"

So he is going to have his nose stuck up who's what? that is not a pretty picture, going to burn my eyes out now.

haha

exaggeration is not always your friend here lol