Heads up to anyone thinking about using the new SE retro pads on their old school ride. Just got a set of the retro pads and the crossbar pad is tiny. Here are the measurements between the new retro pads and OG SE pads - Crossbar: retro 6 3/4", OG 10", Stem: retro 13", OG 11", Frame: same at 12". So I guess they are made to new school specs. SE may want to call this out on their website.

Yeah I was disappointed with my pads too.

A 6.75" crossbar pad is retro? Hardly!

I agree, I got mine today. They look ok, but the quality isn't the same as the old ones. The cross bar pad is way too small, it almost looks stupid. Since these are retro pads, they should've been make to retro specs. They could have then kept the smaller size for the new school bikes.

Apparently there are two different sizes for the cross bar pads - one for new school one for old school.

I got my pads today and was dissapointed too. I wish they were correct in size. I never would have bought them if they weren't.

Padding on modern BMX race bikes is way thin nowdays, I guess they're trying to save as much weight as poss.

agree i got mine yesterday and wasnt to pleased w/ the h-bar pad size either.

The cross bar pad is short because we wanted the pads to also fit Floval Flyers, OM Flyers, and bikes of today.

Well Todd, it's just a small sample, but the five people who have received their pads and posted here were all disappointed and all expected the cross bar pad to fit their retro bikes.

SE shouldn't call these retro pads if they were designed to fit today's bikes!

It's obviously decieving!

I'd like a refund please!

The Pads are retro. Nothing I see in SE's promotion of these pads imply a reproduction, only that you can "turn any bike onto a retro ride.

Retro/retrospective; relating to, reviving, or being the styles and especially the fashions of the past, fashionably nostalgic or old-fashioned <a retro look>

Repro/reproduction; something reproduced, copied

Is a new retro Mustang just like an old one?

The newbie wants a refund because he did'nt do his homework!

If you look at the pad sets you can clearly see the h-bar pad is smaller than a normal old school pad.

Thanks for the nice welcome! (is everyone here as much of an a$s as you are? sorry that I've had better things to do than make 1518 posts here ).

I think I made my point, but you missed it so I'll say it again... of the five people here who have posted they were ALL DISAPOINTED with their pads! So I don't stand alone. We all expected the pads to fit our old school rides and to also be better quality. But the fact is that the pads were designed to fit new school bikes, Todd said so himself. So I think that it would be wise for SE to provide this information on their website so that we CAN do our homework. What's unreasonable about that?

OK, I'll chime in. I LOVE the new retro pads. They fit perfect on my retro and NS SE's. Which is what they were made for, right? Giving a retro look to the new school bikes.

Maybe some of you were expecting "reproduction" pads to fit your OS rides. Then I could see why you might be disappointed, but they are clearly not labeled that are they?

"Retro" not "Repro." Even my 4 year old can tell the difference between those two words.

Should SE make pads with OS specs? Sure, but instead of slamming them for not doing it this time around, let's encourage them to do so by acknowleding the fact they are at least making an effort with the retro pads. Since both racing sanctions no longer require bike pads, there really is no reason for SE to make pads at all, other than the fact we've asked for them.

I'm with Nemo.

I would like to see Repro pads made as well. I know there are GT pads now on Ebay that are being made new and it would be cool to NOT have to spend $100 + for old school used SE pads on Ebay.

I'm glad the cross bar fits my Floval!!!!!!!!!

I guess all of us disappointed folks are dumber than your four year old. That's real nice Capt.

Now be honest Capt. Why don't you take the Camo SE pads off of your 84 Quad, put the New "retro" pads on there and take some photos for us. While you're at it you can put the two sets of pads side by side and take some close up shots so that we can compare the sizes and the quality.

Sorry that I expected the pads to be retro in size as well as look. And I'm sorry that I expected them to be better quality. The problem is that the pads are only labled retro, no sizes, nothing. So what are people to assume? In my mind retro means big bars, not dinky new school, modern day bars. Your argument is weak at best (do you work for Fuji?). I'll say it again, I'm not the only one who expected something better. There's NO REASON why SE, I mean Fuji, shouldn't post the pad sizes on their website an admit that they are designed for new school bike sized handlebars, NOT RETRO BARS. Because it's not good for SE if the majority of people who buy the pads are unhappy with them, is it? Why is it a problem to tell people that that "retro" pads are too small to fit retro sized bars? Come on, Capt. What's wrong with the truth? People need to know that the pads are too small for retro bars!

Here is the delemma. If SE makes the bar pads too big, they WILL NOT fit on new school bars. Like Todd said, the pads were made to fit on the Flovals and OM's, along with the PK's, which have a smaller crossbar. Should SE make a bar pad that will fit on every size handlebar out there?

Even though the pads look dinky on OS bars, technically, they still fit. Heck, I run a frame bar pad on my Vector bars because I thought the OS bar pad looked too small. Should I call Scot and hassle him?

I tried running an OS SE padset on my '07 Floval, and that looked JUST as retarded because the handlebar pad was TOO LONG, and the stem pad was TOO short. At least now I have pads that fit.

I see everyones point on the matter, but as someone said above, one quick look at the picture and you can tell the bar pad looks short.

Do other pad manufactures state the length of their pads? Did they BITD?

Like I said, instead of being negative about it, lets lobby SE to make pads in OS dimensions for those of us that want to dress up our OS ride without paying through the nose for OG's.

Also, the pad looks pretty cool in the picture above. But, I'd try centering the pad in the cossbar, It'll look ALOT better.

Capt. Nemo I appreciate your feedback and I think that you have some valid points, but we're talking about the Fuji corporation here, not the SE Racing of old. I think that it's important to let people know that the Fuji "retro" pads won't fit on their retro sized bars. That's all. What's wrong with presenting the facts? The crossbar pad is only about 6.5" so why can't SE be honest about this and post the info on their website? Facts are facts! Thanks!

What is everybody's obsession with trashing FUJI? SE from BITD was the bomb, BUT IT IS FUJI THAT HAS KEPT THE NAME ALIVE.

The only reason you guys are pissed is because you couldn't buy a $25 padset and try to pass it off as a $300 "correct" oldschool SE padset on your bike.

Remember this. At some point VintageBMX.com will be kicking out LICENSED SE decals AND repro padsets for the oldschool community.

Don't get me wrong. I'd take an old PK over a new one anyday if I had to choose, but don't knock FUJI until you've rode a new PK. Very roomy and nice.

The new PKs are great, but the "Retro" pads suck so I gotta knock 'em.

Don't get your thong in a bunch! We were all newbies at one time and you better check yourself before you come on here and start calling people an A**. If you take a zip-tie and put it the center of your cross-bar under the pad, it will keep your pad centered and it looks fine.

Yes! Keep the tread alive! Spead the message! Hahahaha!

I think your 9-posts crying about the pad size is keeping this thread alive on its own.

Retro = Retro look not Retro size! Do the new SE Retro frames have the same measurements as the old frames??

Brett, he implies here that you have nothing better to do than post on this site, however, those 1520 posts come over the span of the last 4 years (on Wednesday, happy anniversary Brett!!), which isnt too bad. I guess looking at my post count, I need to get a life, lol.

Welcome aboard Bob, I think the pads look dopey as well. There are plenty of new school bars they would look right on. I guess they are suppossed to go on SE bars specifically. I am looking forward to the vintagebmx versions, they should be done right.

Check the specs.

http://sebikes.com/2008/parts.asp

By the way, we have sold hundreds of these pads & I have only heard around 5 people complain.

It could be worse. I could have guys with Floval Flyers, OM Flyers, and new school SE Bikes of pissed because they had to break out the scissors to make the pads fit...

Yeah I keep trying to buy a life on ebay but I keep getting snipped by guys with better things to do!

he is on all the sites tring to complain, as stated before the size is stated on the site below the photo.
he does not even have retro bars, the mikey day bars.
so what I think he is crying about is they dont fit his new school bars that are old school, I think??

Hi Bob,
I always get a kick out of grown men defending grown men on this site.
but let's step back here a moment and look at the big picture.

Being new you might not have realized how instrumental TL has been in almost single handedly bringing back old school to the new school masses.
Whisper something in his ear and you may well find it come to life. He's almost like a dag-gone genie.

Now with your pads, simply do this. go to sebikes.com and email Todd or PM him from here.
Let him know you misunderstood the pads and see what he can do to help.
or have him note your suggestion for the Fuji reps.

then wait for the new pads they mentioned above.....and all these folks have day jobs so the se repop pads aren't going to be first on anyone's agenda. we waited a long time for perfect reproduction mongoose decals, and we got more than we bargained for.

relax and enjoy the place around here......now i must go get myself ready for prom.

Pad sizes are now listed on the SE site:

http://sebikes.com/2008/parts.asp

Check Google's cache... http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:fJI1H...;cd=5&gl=us
As of Oct 25th there were no sizes listed on the site. Apparently Todd just took care of it. That's all I asked for. I'm happy now! See...

So anyways... what would you define as retro sized bars? How about new school sized bars?

I had Hutch pro bars on my '82 PK Ripper...


Anyone know what size the the Hutch bars were?

My new 8" rise bars still seem small... but I guess I'm not 12 anymore... laugh

I just got a set for my 86ish baby blue PK and I was kinda taken back by the small bar pad, but once I saw what the frame pad looked like on my bike I thought my money was well spent...it looks SWEET with the camo pad set...really put a nice touch on the build without hurting me too much in the pocket...very cool!

im not complaining about them. did i buy some? yes
will i buy more? no
will it hurt anybody? no
whats next

One thing you guys need to remember about TL. He isn't just some "corporate" guy from Fuji. He's been racing professional BMX since like 1938. Wayyyyyyy before his mohawk was cool.

yeah, how many other big shot guys are even on sites like this talking to us "regular" guys?? TL is the man!!! and how many other companies could you email or pm and actually get a response let alone get the "problem" fixed??

Thanks, guys.

Ya know, when the pad is centered, it doesn't look so bad.

Just trying to "Make it Happen" over here....

Oh, and 1938? You're close. LOL

Hey I got mine! The top bar pad worked great on my Ripper...The boy claimed the bar pad for his ride looks like it fits to me I don't know what the problem is. He's happy! Thanks Todd. keep up the good work. You might put that they will fit a Honda 50 on your site also. Just kidding...


Shot with C4100Z,C4000Z at 2007-10-30

Still waiting for a reply... what would you define as a retro bar size?