First, Can anyone tell me what size gyro cables I need to get for an original 96' GT Pro Freestyle Tour? I haven't had to buy cables in awhile and noticed that they come in small, medium, and large lengths? Would those lengths be for the upper or lower cables, or both? Also, I noticed that the blue cables that are on that new retro Haro Freestyler say Oryg on them. Are they available (in blue) to the general public or were they just made specifically for that project? If they are available does anyone know where to get them?...Thanks!...Oh, Can I use Oryg cables on a gyro??...Man I miss the days when if u needed a cable u just bought a cable ...Thanks!

Hey Chris,

Well, most gyro cables are interchangeable.....orgy,gyro etc. EXCEPT the gyro 2. The barrell adjuster is bigger than the firt gen and the G3. The G3 went back to the smaller barrell. The size is usually indicated by the UPPER. It depends on how bid your handlebars are that you are using. The lower is typically a universal and has to be cut to length. The last G3 cable i got for an upper had BOTH the smaller barrell and the large barrell in it. Not sure if this is the norm. or not.

As far as the blue haro retro cables, i am not sure. I would be very interested to know if they are available too.

Jer

Hey Jeremy! Hows that GT looking? I would love to see some pics! The cables are actually going on the f/f I got from u, as well as the gyro. I'm pretty sure it is a G3? I'll have to check. I actually found the exact same NOS 4pc. GT bars as the ones u sent w/the bike. So what length upper cable should I use on that setup?

I have those bars on one of my Dyno's. I used the 425mm and i think they worked out great. I actually like those bars much better than most of all my others. They just seem to look and feel better.

The GT is a true survivor. I put new grips on it, and am in the process of restoring the mags, so i have some nice wheels on it right now. It rides great. I was going to put some new cables on, but i decided againgst it. I will post some pics. sooon

So many projects, so little money...LOL


Jer

Just get some Odyssey modulevers and a London mod and forget the gyro cables... just use standard cables. For a 96 I think that would look and work great!

Oh Wow..
I didn't know that the Gen 3 Gyros came with small barrel adjusters...

So, can I use the Gen 3 cables on my vintage bikes?

And are they labeled "Gen 3 " on the packaging?

thanks...

I just recently have had gyros/orygs on my mind, helping out a new member with their build. It can be enough to make one's head spin.

I saw an upper blue (new - Odyssey) cable on eBay yesterday. Too short for you, though. (390mm).

http://cgi.ebay.com/Odyssey-BMX-Bike-Gyro-...VQQcmdZViewItem

I've got a new upper Oryg cable on my rider, which has an original 1" Gyro on it, so I'm going to say that, in my experience, they are interchangeable.

Let me get a couple of pics in here. Maybe it'll save someone the trial and error method I had to go through to find a good fit.

I installed the short version a few years back on a ride with FS Forklifter bars. Those are pretty short bars and the cable just BARELY made it. I like cables tight and out-of-the-way, but it was really close.

Just a couple months ago I picked up 2 sets of Oddyssey G3 upper cables (includes both barrel sizes) from Danscomp in blue. It's a darker blue than the old days, but still cool. I don't know if they still have them, and I know lowers were only avail in black. Check their site or give 'em a call.

Hope this helps, and again, I'd recommend at least the medium length upper unless you're running Jr sized bars.

IIRC, the newschool cable sizes are: 390mm, 425mm, and 475mm. If you want the cable to be about as long as the os cables, you'll have to find the 475mm ones. Only problem is most places only stock the short ones.

Another difference is that the new cables moved the location of the 2-into-1 cable junction closer to the lever.

Thanks so much Axlepeg and Profiler.. that's a big help!

Ok, here's what I can offer to the pool of information on Gyro and/or Oryg upper cables. Like I said, maybe it'll help someone else out. I found it to be a pain in the neck, but I learned a bit myself (I'll tell you just what later).

First, a pic of the four different cables I had on-hand to measure, etc.

From top to bottom, the cables I will heretofore refer to as there letters, designated here:

A: Gyro 390mm 15 1/4"
B: Oryg 430mm 17"
C: Gyro 465mm 18 1/4" (Edit *after reading Raul's post, I re-measured twice. I have an old cable and the size may be obsolete.)
D: Gyro 495mm 19 3/4" (OldSchool)

(Note: all measurements are approximated to the best of my ability)



And here's how they fit on my old Haro kneesavers, with the stem slammed all the way down. Also consider that roughly 1/2" has been cut off each bar end, bring the lever that much closer to the detangler.

Cable A: (Gyro 390mm)

Notice that it just barely fits. It might not if the bars weren't chopped.

Cable B: (Oryg 430mm)

This one fits perfectly. Oryg, not Gyro. The only thing is, the inner cable is a bit too long. I've got to have all four barrel adjusters practically maxed-out to remove the slack. That sucks. Gyro cables A & C don't have hardly any slack to be taken out with the adjusters. That's nice.

Cable C: (Gyro 465mm)

As mentioned before, the Gyro cables were cool because all the barrel adjusters are threaded in and it works great. Not too terribly long, but still hovering just above the crossbar, and I'm not crazy about that.

Cable D: (Gyro 495mm)

Oldschool at its finest. Barhops and surfers are not an issue because you can easily fit your entire leg through the loop above the crossbar, LOL. This is probably the length known as the "Poser" model these days. I couldn't hook this one up 100% because my top Gyro plate doesn't have the slits in the side, and the old "beads" at the end of the cable won't fit through. This one has such a tight inner cable that I couldn't even get it on the lever at first. That stupid plastic barrel-adjuster tightener (seen in pic A & C) was too wide. So I changed it to a slimmer aluminum one seen in pics B & D.

Yes, folks, that's the pegless T/A I built up at the beginning of the summer to shred on. Despite my best intentions to keep it oldschool, I had to put on a Gyro. My foot got caught up in the rear cable on a decade and I almost did a grand faceplant. I'm lucky it wasn't a Rolaid. Also, it was fun, quaint, and novel to do a little barspin after each tailwhip or boomerang or what have you (ala Eddie Fiola) but it got old real fast. So, on the Gyro went. Hell, it a pegless '83 T/A w/ mags. Still plenty oldschool at heart.

Anyhow.

So what did I learn? Well, it was about time I finally switched out those black plastic barrel adjuster-tighteners to the aluminum ones on my ride. Those plastic ones can't be properly tightened down without stripping anyway. Glad to have gotten that out of the way. Also, on the new ride I'm building, I suspect the bars are a bit larger and I won't be chopping them down. So cable C might be the way to go. No excessive inner-cable slack, and it might meet the crossbar in the ideal place. If not, I'm going to invest in some knarps and do some trimming so I get it just how I want. No comprimising necessary. Maybe even get a Odyssey GTX-R that has knarps built into the bearings (I don't know, though, that could be a pain with front-end maintenance).
(additional edit after reading Raul's post* I'm going to order a Gryo in 425mm. Perfect length I'll bet, and if it's like the other Gyro cables I have [as opposed to the Oryg], it won't have too much inner slack.)

One other silly thing I learned. What with the emoticons and all, if I try to write a list in my usual fashion, it comes out like this:

A)

C)
D)

HA!

Did a quick search and I'm having trouble finding the longer Ody ones. Frankford Bike does carry the 3 lengths for the uppers but they're the ones from SST Oryg. I know I've ordered the long Ody ones from them in the past, maybe they still have them.

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By the way, if anyone needs some of the short 390mm cables, hit me up for a deal. I've got way more than I need, lol.

Wow. We definately have to archive this! lol. What a great source of info. Thanks alot guys! So I'm assuming that 425mm. would be considered medium? Man Axle, when u said "just barely fits" u weren't kidding! lol. Jeremy, You're right on those bars. I always ran those type of narrow, 4pc. bars bitd. I know I'm gonna love these! I still can't believe I was able to find the exact ones nos! Make sure u send me pics of that bike! I bet it looks great!