I am looking at changing several things on my new '88 Master. I have no idea what the parts I need should be priced. I know it can vary quite a bit but if you could just give me a rough idea for used parts. Here is what I am going to look for:
1.Haro Fluted laid back seat post
2. Viscount Dominator seat
3. Peregrine 3 piece cranks-(used on team master)
4.Haro 44t disc or peregrine compact disc sprocket (like the team master)
5.Victor VP-500 DX pedals
I know there can be big swings in price, but just a ballpark idea.
typically the response around here is It's worth what you're willing to pay. My recommendation is that you do a search on ebay for current or completed auctions for the items you are looking for & that will give you at least a baseline on where you're gonna be from a cost perspective.
good luck young Jedi.
good luck young Jedi.
Yes Pep Is correct, I would be willing to pay 300.00 for a set of peregrine 3 piece cranks, you may think thats alot, but I have not found them yet for that, so they must be worth more. IMO
it is so hard to say with today market...
I had a profile champ frame, I tried selling 3 yrs ago for 149.99 plus shipping (buy it now option.)
and not one bite.
I sold it this year on the bay for over 350.00. cant explaint it, it just wierd....
good luck with the hunt....
it is so hard to say with today market...
I had a profile champ frame, I tried selling 3 yrs ago for 149.99 plus shipping (buy it now option.)
and not one bite.
I sold it this year on the bay for over 350.00. cant explaint it, it just wierd....
good luck with the hunt....
Were those Peregrine cranks the only 3 piece cranks they used from the factory on Masters? Just curious.
no they came on a few bikes, the peregrine was one. not sure memory fading....
any one step up here and help a few brothers out?
please.
any one step up here and help a few brothers out?
please.
Peregrines also came on RL Osbourn bikes...I think?!?!?
Jon
Jon
Peregrine 3pc were the only cranks used on 87-88 team masters. They were used on general osborne pros, kuwahara bravo teams, and the peregrine B1XT. Maybe more but that's all I can remember now.
Ahhhh... Generals!!!!.... Thats what they were called..... (as i sneak back over to the the race forum with my tail between my legs )
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So much for being patient. Sounds like you want that Master finished today, if not sooner, LOL.
A good way to determine what an item brings at auction is by using the "advanced search" on eBay. Find it, click it, enter keywords you are looking for (sometimes it'll be helpful to also add terms you don't want to come up in your search - under "exclude these words") and then make sure you click "completed listings only" and you'll see all the auctions that have ended in the past 10 days. What they sold -or didn't sell- for.
Here's what an advanced search for "dominator seat" yeilded:
http://search-completed.ebay.com/dominator...pZ1QQsofocusZbs
As far as I know, the only 3 piece cranks to come on the '88 Master where Peregrines, yes.
Best of luck finding the sprocket you want...the Haro team one, anyhow. I think Bob (djbdb) looked for more than a year to find a suitable used one. I would contact him personally for more questions specific to this build. His came out absolutely perfect. He's selling off quite a bit of his collection (everything but his black Master), and he might have some spare parts. You might find it easier and cheaper to find a Peregrine sprocket, which are a good substitute, IMO.
Once again, I'll just suggest that patience is the key. Yeah, it's worth whatever you're willing to pay for it, but when two or more impatient people go head-to-head on an item that they positively have to have -right now- that's when the price a a Dominator breaks 2 or 3 hundred dollars. We all know what happens THEN. Earl and a bunch of the NOS sellers start listing all their Dominator seats with a Buy It Now of $250...ugh.
Just keep in mind -and I'm not suggesting this is you- but those of us who've been around a while have seen many a new guy come through who are looking to rebuild their past. They come in, buy everything they can in a orgasmic burst of nostalgia, and the next month they are unsatisfied/discontented or whatever, only to sell off their "dream bike" for a substantial financial loss.
Good luck. Take your time and savor the process of accumulating the parts you need. Years from now, that search, in itself, will be a fond memory. Dig?
A good way to determine what an item brings at auction is by using the "advanced search" on eBay. Find it, click it, enter keywords you are looking for (sometimes it'll be helpful to also add terms you don't want to come up in your search - under "exclude these words") and then make sure you click "completed listings only" and you'll see all the auctions that have ended in the past 10 days. What they sold -or didn't sell- for.
Here's what an advanced search for "dominator seat" yeilded:
http://search-completed.ebay.com/dominator...pZ1QQsofocusZbs
As far as I know, the only 3 piece cranks to come on the '88 Master where Peregrines, yes.
Best of luck finding the sprocket you want...the Haro team one, anyhow. I think Bob (djbdb) looked for more than a year to find a suitable used one. I would contact him personally for more questions specific to this build. His came out absolutely perfect. He's selling off quite a bit of his collection (everything but his black Master), and he might have some spare parts. You might find it easier and cheaper to find a Peregrine sprocket, which are a good substitute, IMO.
Once again, I'll just suggest that patience is the key. Yeah, it's worth whatever you're willing to pay for it, but when two or more impatient people go head-to-head on an item that they positively have to have -right now- that's when the price a a Dominator breaks 2 or 3 hundred dollars. We all know what happens THEN. Earl and a bunch of the NOS sellers start listing all their Dominator seats with a Buy It Now of $250...ugh.
Just keep in mind -and I'm not suggesting this is you- but those of us who've been around a while have seen many a new guy come through who are looking to rebuild their past. They come in, buy everything they can in a orgasmic burst of nostalgia, and the next month they are unsatisfied/discontented or whatever, only to sell off their "dream bike" for a substantial financial loss.
Good luck. Take your time and savor the process of accumulating the parts you need. Years from now, that search, in itself, will be a fond memory. Dig?
QUOTE (Axlepeg @ Oct 4 2007, 01:43 PM) 
So much for being patient. Sounds like you want that Master finished today, if not sooner, LOL.
A good way to determine what an item brings at auction is by using the "advanced search" on eBay. Find it, click it, enter keywords you are looking for (sometimes it'll be helpful to also add terms you don't want to come up in your search - under "exclude these words") and then make sure you click "completed listings only" and you'll see all the auctions that have ended in the past 10 days. What they sold -or didn't sell- for.
Here's what an advanced search for "dominator seat" yeilded:
http://search-completed.ebay.com/dominator...pZ1QQsofocusZbs
As far as I know, the only 3 piece cranks to come on the '88 Master where Peregrines, yes.
Best of luck finding the sprocket you want...the Haro team one, anyhow. I think Bob (djbdb) looked for more than a year to find a suitable used one. I would contact him personally for more questions specific to this build. His came out absolutely perfect. He's selling off quite a bit of his collection (everything but his black Master), and he might have some spare parts. You might find it easier and cheaper to find a Peregrine sprocket, which are a good substitute, IMO.
Once again, I'll just suggest that patience is the key. Yeah, it's worth whatever you're willing to pay for it, but when two or more impatient people go head-to-head on an item that they positively have to have -right now- that's when the price a a Dominator breaks 2 or 3 hundred dollars. We all know what happens THEN. Earl and a bunch of the NOS sellers start listing all their Dominator seats with a Buy It Now of $250...ugh.
Just keep in mind -and I'm not suggesting this is you- but those of us who've been around a while have seen many a new guy come through who are looking to rebuild their past. They come in, buy everything they can in a orgasmic burst of nostalgia, and the next month they are unsatisfied/discontented or whatever, only to sell off their "dream bike" for a substantial financial loss.
Good luck. Take your time and savor the process of accumulating the parts you need. Years from now, that search, in itself, will be a fond memory. Dig?
A good way to determine what an item brings at auction is by using the "advanced search" on eBay. Find it, click it, enter keywords you are looking for (sometimes it'll be helpful to also add terms you don't want to come up in your search - under "exclude these words") and then make sure you click "completed listings only" and you'll see all the auctions that have ended in the past 10 days. What they sold -or didn't sell- for.
Here's what an advanced search for "dominator seat" yeilded:
http://search-completed.ebay.com/dominator...pZ1QQsofocusZbs
As far as I know, the only 3 piece cranks to come on the '88 Master where Peregrines, yes.
Best of luck finding the sprocket you want...the Haro team one, anyhow. I think Bob (djbdb) looked for more than a year to find a suitable used one. I would contact him personally for more questions specific to this build. His came out absolutely perfect. He's selling off quite a bit of his collection (everything but his black Master), and he might have some spare parts. You might find it easier and cheaper to find a Peregrine sprocket, which are a good substitute, IMO.
Once again, I'll just suggest that patience is the key. Yeah, it's worth whatever you're willing to pay for it, but when two or more impatient people go head-to-head on an item that they positively have to have -right now- that's when the price a a Dominator breaks 2 or 3 hundred dollars. We all know what happens THEN. Earl and a bunch of the NOS sellers start listing all their Dominator seats with a Buy It Now of $250...ugh.
Just keep in mind -and I'm not suggesting this is you- but those of us who've been around a while have seen many a new guy come through who are looking to rebuild their past. They come in, buy everything they can in a orgasmic burst of nostalgia, and the next month they are unsatisfied/discontented or whatever, only to sell off their "dream bike" for a substantial financial loss.
Good luck. Take your time and savor the process of accumulating the parts you need. Years from now, that search, in itself, will be a fond memory. Dig?
Very good answer....
QUOTE (Axlepeg @ Oct 4 2007, 08:43 AM)
So much for being patient. Sounds like you want that Master finished today, if not sooner, LOL.
A good way to determine what an item brings at auction is by using the "advanced search" on eBay. Find it, click it, enter keywords you are looking for (sometimes it'll be helpful to also add terms you don't want to come up in your search - under "exclude these words") and then make sure you click "completed listings only" and you'll see all the auctions that have ended in the past 10 days. What they sold -or didn't sell- for.
Here's what an advanced search for "dominator seat" yeilded:
http://search-completed.ebay.com/dominator...pZ1QQsofocusZbs
As far as I know, the only 3 piece cranks to come on the '88 Master where Peregrines, yes.
Best of luck finding the sprocket you want...the Haro team one, anyhow. I think Bob (djbdb) looked for more than a year to find a suitable used one. I would contact him personally for more questions specific to this build. His came out absolutely perfect. He's selling off quite a bit of his collection (everything but his black Master), and he might have some spare parts. You might find it easier and cheaper to find a Peregrine sprocket, which are a good substitute, IMO.
Once again, I'll just suggest that patience is the key. Yeah, it's worth whatever you're willing to pay for it, but when two or more impatient people go head-to-head on an item that they positively have to have -right now- that's when the price a a Dominator breaks 2 or 3 hundred dollars. We all know what happens THEN. Earl and a bunch of the NOS sellers start listing all their Dominator seats with a Buy It Now of $250...ugh.
Just keep in mind -and I'm not suggesting this is you- but those of us who've been around a while have seen many a new guy come through who are looking to rebuild their past. They come in, buy everything they can in a orgasmic burst of nostalgia, and the next month they are unsatisfied/discontented or whatever, only to sell off their "dream bike" for a substantial financial loss.
Good luck. Take your time and savor the process of accumulating the parts you need. Years from now, that search, in itself, will be a fond memory. Dig?
A good way to determine what an item brings at auction is by using the "advanced search" on eBay. Find it, click it, enter keywords you are looking for (sometimes it'll be helpful to also add terms you don't want to come up in your search - under "exclude these words") and then make sure you click "completed listings only" and you'll see all the auctions that have ended in the past 10 days. What they sold -or didn't sell- for.
Here's what an advanced search for "dominator seat" yeilded:
http://search-completed.ebay.com/dominator...pZ1QQsofocusZbs
As far as I know, the only 3 piece cranks to come on the '88 Master where Peregrines, yes.
Best of luck finding the sprocket you want...the Haro team one, anyhow. I think Bob (djbdb) looked for more than a year to find a suitable used one. I would contact him personally for more questions specific to this build. His came out absolutely perfect. He's selling off quite a bit of his collection (everything but his black Master), and he might have some spare parts. You might find it easier and cheaper to find a Peregrine sprocket, which are a good substitute, IMO.
Once again, I'll just suggest that patience is the key. Yeah, it's worth whatever you're willing to pay for it, but when two or more impatient people go head-to-head on an item that they positively have to have -right now- that's when the price a a Dominator breaks 2 or 3 hundred dollars. We all know what happens THEN. Earl and a bunch of the NOS sellers start listing all their Dominator seats with a Buy It Now of $250...ugh.
Just keep in mind -and I'm not suggesting this is you- but those of us who've been around a while have seen many a new guy come through who are looking to rebuild their past. They come in, buy everything they can in a orgasmic burst of nostalgia, and the next month they are unsatisfied/discontented or whatever, only to sell off their "dream bike" for a substantial financial loss.
Good luck. Take your time and savor the process of accumulating the parts you need. Years from now, that search, in itself, will be a fond memory. Dig?
Yes, its hard not to get a little impatient when its exciting to get back into the sport. I do enjoy the research aspect and combing of ebay on a regular basis. In my other hobbies I generally like the building and tweaking more than using the item most of the time. I see myself most likely building several bikes. I like to take bikes that need a lot of tlc and restoring them back to their former glory. The thing that will undoubtedly keep me on a nice slow pace is my wife, who already thinks I am a little nuts. I will be lucky to get a new seat post with her watching my ebay use. Thank you for all the help so far. Right now I am really trying to build up my knowledge base. I am also hoping as my son gets older he will take some interest in the building and restoring process and we can work on them together. It's funny you said a dominator seat for $250 because I was just looking at ebay last night and someone is selling a set of pedals for over $200, yikes.
I had an 88' (if I remember the year correctly?) neon yellow/chrome team Master that came w/Peregrine cranks/disc. I have a pic somewhere, I'll have to dig it out. What yr. did they start using the Haro Group 1 cranks?
QUOTE (oldfreestyler @ Oct 4 2007, 06:49 PM)
I had an 88' (if I remember the year correctly?) neon yellow/chrome team Master that came w/Peregrine cranks/disc. I have a pic somewhere, I'll have to dig it out. What yr. did they start using the Haro Group 1 cranks?
I've seen the group 1 cranks on '86 Masters. Is that correct? I'm also assuming those are as hard to find as the peregrine ones.
QUOTE (Brian C @ Oct 5 2007, 07:48 AM)
Just buy this and sell what you don't need off of it....
Haro Team Master
Haro Team Master
Yeah, that's a great looking bike. It would be funny to take a complete master and part it out for no good reason. That is one of the color schemes that I like best. I am really thinking about repainting my new all black to two tone.
I remember you asked for pics of mine...well here she is, in all her glory! Got any questions, let me know....and thanks for the compliment Josh!
Oh, and I'm kinda surprised that that Master went for that much...now I kinda know what mine would go for, though probably a bit more... 
dang, i have a dominator on my FST & another in my box of treats in the closet.... A friend put one on ebay over here & it fetched £128.00GBP!!!!
QUOTE (djbdb @ Oct 7 2007, 05:34 PM)
Oh, and I'm kinda surprised that that Master went for that much...now I kinda know what mine would go for, though probably a bit more...
Wow, that is an amazing specimen. I can see why you would hold on to that bike for sure. Was that a restore or original? Is there a thread that talks about it. That is the exact color scheme I am going for on my new '88 black/black master. Thank you for posting those, it gives me a nice template to start the looking process. Is that seat signed by Blyther? Cool!
yeah, it is signed by Brian Blyther...and That bike is a FULL restore, chrome and all...the hardest things to find are the stem and the chainwheel...
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