Seriously...

I can't seem to even get CLOSE to doing a bar endo.... I can do a regular endo, and I've seen enough how to videos. It feels like I can't take my other hand off the grips... what do I do with the other hand?

Anybody have any helpful tips?

what i used to do is before hitting the front brake, i would first grab the back of the seat, THEN hit the brake and turn the bars...i could never get myself to do a "proper" bar endo.

oh i loved those dont know how the rims held up!

Ride forward. Hold the seat with your right hand . Position your body over the seat. In one quick hard motion jam on the front brake, push the bike in to a very hard endo. The bars will pretty much spin themselves sideways with only one hand on them. Practice, practice, practice.... and remember with this one it's no guts no glory. There's really no wimpy halfway point out. You gotta really force it. Don't worry though, it's really easy to just step down if you lose your balance.

I cracked a Tuff doing a bar endo BITD, so I wouldnt want to try it now @ 100# heavier...I might give it a shot after my 06 Sport arrives, I'll be replacing those wheels anyway.

I always hated the 'grab the seat before you endo' ones. thought they looked cheesy...

for me, I endo and put my knees in towards my seat. this helps to keep the bike steady. then I grab the seat and turn the bars. if all is well, I tuck.

here's a crappy self portrait..

WOW!!!

talk about timing, i was just going to ask this question last night. ever since i saw a pic of rick moliterno doin a bar endo on a beach rock cliff while ridin an 88 team master i always wanted to know how to do these. i can endo and turn my bars but i can release the other hand. ima try some of these tips tomorrow.also spicoli, unless you have another wheelset for your 06 sport keep the ones it comes with. my freind got a mirra 540 air(wich has the same wheels and all the same parts as the sport) and those wheels are STRONG. their skinny little double walls but their very stiff. they also have a great braking surface.

Ok this may or may not be of any help to anyone, but here's how I did mine...

If you can't take your hand off the grip, it's because you have too much weight on it. A common mistake with bar endos I think is placing your body weight on the front of the bike and trying to lever yourself upwards by putting pressure on the front wheel as a pivot. It makes it too hard to let go of the bars, as well as applies a lot of pressure to the wheel, with possible breakage.

Try this... get into a bar endo by doing a sort of 'bunnyhop'... meaning, load your legs then leap upwards with your body, and pull the rear of the bike up with you, by tucking. On your way up, you can fold the bars to the side easily, since there is little pressure on the front end. You are actually taking weight off of the front of the bike, and then once your body mass has peaked upwards, you'll "settle", with your bars already turned, and now is when you'll start transferring your weight on the front wheel, and try to balance as long as you can. You'll find you have a lot of control this way in how long you can balance by practicing and measuring your upwards movement.

If you do it right, you'll ease into the balance point of the endo and your weight will smoothly transfer to the front end. If you jump too high, you'll bounce your weight on the front wheel - not good. Practice til you hit the balance point just perfectly.

Coming out of it, just extend your legs smoothly, transfer the weight off the front end back to your body mass, the bars will return to position almost by themselves, and absorb the landing with your legs once you place the back tire down as gently and smoothly as you can.

Anwyays, this is how I go about it, maybe it'll help someone.

Those sound like good tips, Nighthawk, thanks. Me, I want to figure out how to barspin out of one, and that sounds like a fine way to try it.

it is a mental trick, like a decade. Once you get over the initial fear of going for it, you will start doing it.

Good brakes are a must. If they slide at all you will have trouble with the trick.

Most people learn by holding the seat first. That is easier.

leaning way back is the key.

There really is no way to "hurt" yourself when you do it though. If you go over too far the bar end will hit the ground and you will fall to the left or the right, just let the bike go over and when you are close to the ground put your foot down.

Wear gloves so your hands don't slide off the seat or grip...

think of it as a piece of cake.

You'll be doing them next session.

If you can't get your hand off, try to get your bars more sideways before you take your hand off.
You can just try one handed endos first then start leaning back and tucking.
It's really pretty easy. Just keep all of your weight over your front wheel

Hey Pete, (Ndprts4hro) we'll have to hook up & work on them.
Now that I got me a front brake, I'm about 40% on these.
-Bill

Thanks guys... I think the hopping into it part makes sense. I might have to get brave enough to try it at a little faster speed too.

We'll have you doing them at the MN BBQ Pete!


Oh yeah and....

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By Free Enterprise:
it is a mental trick, like a decade. Once you get over the initial fear of going for it, you will start doing it.

Good brakes are a must. If they slide at all you will have trouble with the trick.

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FE speaks the truth!

[ June 30, 2006, 06:06 AM: Message edited by: STRIKE ]