Mar 12 2006, 03:29 PM
am getting a tad confused myself...
1. Quicksilver never made any double downtube 20 inch bikes.The 20 inch double downtube frames are all BBR frames.
2.From memory , all the Quicksilver 24 + 26 inch cruisers that came into our shop for sale were double downtube with the pro rear end or "big" versions of the original 20 inch BBR frame.
I don't remember seeing any Quicksilver cruisers with a large single downtube , they were always double downtube with the pro rear end , but it wouldn't surprize me if the cruiser design changed later on when they started cost cutting & had the rear ends of the frames fabricated in Japan....you got me wondering now.
Pete Porker or AJ should be able to confirm deny or help my memory.
Mar 12 2006, 03:39 PM
Unfortunately, I don't think I'm going to be much help in the Quicksilver cruiser debate. I never was at all interested in cruisers, never raced them - I thought that they were a "diversion" from the real racing - 20" bikes. Which appears to have been the case as the years have passed by.
Although the cruisers appeared to me to lead to the evolution of the mountain bike...
Mar 12 2006, 03:54 PM
I can remember going to the dealer with my dad to order my bro's 24" quicky (secret xmas present) and I'm sure there was no single downtube frame available. here is the 1982 catalogue pic:
(Pic coutesy of James and his Tassie bmxer mate )
Mar 12 2006, 06:02 PM
The final page of the catalogue is below and the way I read it, the 26" was single tube, otherwise why didn't they mention the DDS bit like the 24". Also a bit difficult to tell from the picture but I would lean to the side of a single tube. Just my opinion though. [ March 12, 2006, 07:05 PM: Message edited by: Jarvi ]
Mar 12 2006, 07:50 PM
yeah the txt reads that way James, but you blow the hi-res 26" pic up to 300% screen size and it has the twin down tubes for sure.
Mar 12 2006, 11:35 PM
That is sooo cool! It's the 1st time that i have ever seen an ad 4 the Heilum! You've made my day Jarvi !!! I'll finish mine 1 day.... I'm going to do a replica of Ajay's 1... Since he was the man bitd.
Scotty I'm hunting 4 the black Haro plate that he has on his....
Mar 13 2006, 02:02 AM
Mark seemed to have had his own "special projects" division when he was working for Competition Developement that he called BBR in 1980.
As for when Competition Developement changed it's name & whatever else to Quicksilver I have no idea.
The rear end of the BBR's were standard issue from "the factory" in 1980 , as seen in the photo , the later made frames did not have the box section behind the BB.
From riding & racing both BBR1 & BBR2 with TRX forks on them both I can tell you each bike had it's own individual feel & handling characteristics & felt nothing like any Quicksilver I rode back then.
As for the high seat wheely mobile , I am trying to break in a suede aero seat so I am sitting on it more than standing on the pedals atm , it's always had layback seatpost of some kind or another on it to let the GT pro bars clear the seat for crossups & table tops etc.
The rear brakes aren't with crap atm , that rear cable hoop needs to be made out of a bike chain or similar not a flimsy brake cable...
Mar 13 2006, 03:27 AM
Here's a pic of a 6speed Quickie 26.. 4 those who haven't seen it before.... I loved this bike.... I know that she's still thinking of me!!! Heh Heh
You do realize that it's only on loan to ya Pete (don't ya?) Scotty
Mar 13 2006, 04:06 PM
Nice looking hybrid you have there meatpie , pity those Quicksilver/tange forks have that extra rake on them ,I remember they made our old Bennet cruiser handle like a boat.Nowhere near as bad as those motor bike chopper things they make on "The Angry Father Motorcycle Show" tho , differnet frames , different geometry , different purposes...
I still think OM was onto a useable wheel combo with this 26/24 inch Quadangle he made in the 1980's as far as a basic design goes , gears ,brakes , geometry etc can be tweaked to suit the type of riding you want to be doing....
I got some 26 inch reproduction Bottema's around here somewhere to fit to a 26 inch Santa Ana cruiser later this year.....but I don't think gears & a 24 inch rear wheel will work on it , maybe a 24 inch rear wheel might fit & keep the overall geometry rideable...all in good time.
Mar 14 2006, 01:29 AM
[ March 14, 2006, 02:34 AM: Message edited by: osamasbmx ]
Mar 14 2006, 02:26 AM
Hi all, the 26" Quicksilver were double down tube, unless there were some rare protos. The one in the catalogue is twin tubed, it's just the angle of the pic, if you look real close where the downtubes meet the headtube - they join kinda on the side of the headtube where the top tube doesn't.
Jetblack - Meatpie doesn't have his 26" anymore !!!............
Mar 14 2006, 04:02 AM
Hey JB, You might want to pm HUTCHHEAVEN on here as he has Graphite tuff flanges for sale. I think they are NOS too. Check the F/S thread.
Mar 14 2006, 04:56 AM
Hi fellas! Havent been around for a bit!
Hey Chris! did you get my pm?
Mar 14 2006, 05:03 AM
what the faaark is goin on in here, anybody would think that gooses and quickies where the only bikes invented, is that all that people have in their collection, cmon guys, show us some more cool stuff.
and a big welcome back to the guy who was never gonna set foot in this thread again, pete, you know who you are, oops i said his name
Mar 14 2006, 05:19 AM
Hey guys , where you been? You haven't missed much.
Mar 14 2006, 05:23 AM
Yeah! looks pretty quite around here.
Hey Luis! It was great to talk yesterday, sorry to get cut off, but I'll call soon.
Mar 14 2006, 05:26 AM
hows things glen, yeah been a bit busy, this thread is like days of our lives, miss 6 months and still pick up where ya left it. lol
Mar 14 2006, 05:28 AM
hey guys hows every one
thanks for the reply back v8 lol
Mar 14 2006, 05:39 AM
Hey fellas, just listed a cheap z-rim wheel set on oz ebay....check it!
Mar 14 2006, 05:45 AM
All is well. Yeah not a lot happens here at the moment.
Saw the rims Scoot. Very nice mate. Good price too.
Mar 14 2006, 06:00 AM
sorry jas, i decided to keep my collection, i just couldnt bring myself to sell it, you know how it is bud, its like a disease that has no cure, lol
Mar 14 2006, 06:12 AM
v8ute, i only came back cause i thought you'd gone !!!!!! that's it, i'm outa here...................!
Mar 14 2006, 06:38 AM
yer it all good bud
welcome bac oh see ya pete lol
kiss and make up will ya
Mar 14 2006, 07:01 AM
Hey coastVL those graphite flanges are now sold... (to me) IM going to anno them and make some graphite replica's might even anno them blue like the Skyway team guys had.
Can ya send me a close up of ya 16" pit.
Mar 14 2006, 02:11 PM
Thanx for the pix of the Graphites waza , I hope they didn't cost you both your left & right nut. I should be able to draw up & put together some prototype gold flanges to bolt onto the new graphites to give them them the proper high flange look well within the 9 months I estimated for
doing a small production run of them in the Tech & Resto forum.
You might want to do some research into what wheels got what colour annodized hubs put into them , I vaguely remember reading that it was the Blue Tuff II's that got the blue anodised hubs put into them for the Skyway team guys as well as a "few" sets of Graphites that came out with the silver non campy high flange hubs in them for sponsored riders only , as there was some concern about the strength of the campy hubs under skatepark conditions.....That might explain this old picture of Eddie Fiola
Unless he got real creative & put gold print into his mag rims..Andy Patterson also made an unauthorized deal with the makers of Tuffs in the UK on a run of his signature series blue Tuff's when he was over there , not sure what colour hubs they had in them , when Skyway USA got wind of the deal that Andy & the licenced UK Tuff makers put together they had it shut down , but not before a lot of them were released into the UK market....
As for talking about other brand bikes , perhaps someone knows anything about Maxxis 24 inch cruisers that look like Pattersons ??? or maybe someone can shed some light on the madness behind "dandzabel" the magic fairy bidder on ebay who ramps up & pays huge amounts of cash for diamond back stuff , whenever he manages to find it....
Mar 14 2006, 03:46 PM
Mike Domingez(sp) had a set of white tuffs with blue hubs! Go figure? I'd say Eddie had a graphite rim with normal alloy hubs inserted. The color of the rim looks too grey for reg tuffs.
It'd be fair to assume that factory Skyway guys could have whatever wheel combos they wanted.
Mar 14 2006, 06:14 PM
HI ALL IAM OFFERING THESE TO ALL YOU GUYS
$5.00AUD A PAIR SHIPPED BE QUICK HAVENT GOT MANY LEFT!!!!!!
NOS SHIMINO BRAKE CABLE CLAMPS lmk
Mar 14 2006, 09:15 PM
geez I get back from lunch with my wife and miss the only dx seatpost on ebay for months by 2 minutes. I know i should have sniped it, but anyway. You win some you lose some hey?
I did get a jofa mask NOS like mine I had bitd. The day is not a total loss! Not bad for $10us! Been after one of these for quite a while too.
Mar 15 2006, 12:32 AM
So is the lesson to spend less time eating or less time with your wife?
Mar 15 2006, 12:56 AM
More time eating..... oh never mind.
Mar 15 2006, 01:32 AM
Mar 15 2006, 05:22 AM
hey has anyone got any pic of a tandem 20 inch
Mar 15 2006, 05:58 AM
Mar 15 2006, 06:13 AM
thanks glen pretty cool hey iam in the process of biulding one
Mar 15 2006, 06:16 AM
That'd be pretty cool. What bike you going to use?
Mar 15 2006, 04:27 PM
Use an old mongoose frame. I hear they are real easy to cut....................LOL
[ March 15, 2006, 05:53 PM: Message edited by: waza007 ]
Mar 15 2006, 04:34 PM
lol hehe yer thats what iam using ive got three damaged ones here just looking for one more
then they get the grinder!! ill take pics step by step
and the end result
Mar 15 2006, 06:26 PM
Check this out for an old school tandem!!!
Mar 15 2006, 10:22 PM
Just posted one photo over in the riding with tuffs thread and thought I'd put the other one here. Always thought it was more fun to go straight over the berms rather than around them and still do. Hence the injuries a couple of weeks back. This one from around 1980 at Elphin BMX track in Launceston.
Mar 16 2006, 03:16 AM
Jas make sure when you make one it has a bit more leg room than the first one Glenn posted. Look at both guys, their knees are against the bars.
Mar 16 2006, 03:49 AM
Those 2 guys are Eddie King and Mike Aguilera! It does look a little small doesn't it?
Mar 16 2006, 04:35 AM
-Look at both guys, their knees are against the bars.-
Never mind hitting the bars, when they're racin Im sure Eddie will have his nose in crack!
Mar 17 2006, 06:28 PM
Cool pics guys... James your lucky to have those childhood pics, great stuff.
My boy has been at me to ride the local skate bowl so we head down to Lilydale early this morning to have a play before the big boys arrive. Another ute arrives-dad and two boys and I see dad pull an old chrome bike out and my eyes light up-an old DB, so needless to say we get to chatting and he's another local guy, actually we went to the same tech school in 81 and 82. anyway I thought i'd share a pic of his bike, an 83 model I think:
Mar 17 2006, 06:37 PM
Mar 17 2006, 06:40 PM
Another one leaves the stable to make way for the next one!
Mar 17 2006, 06:42 PM
Mark you should have yelled out that you were going. I'd prefer to hit the parks before the others but also hesitant to do that kind of stuff by myself. Visions of lying at the bottom of a bowl with a broken limb and no-one there to help me.
I don't have the kids as an excuse to go there so I just look like a creepy old guy.
Mar 17 2006, 06:45 PM
Mar 17 2006, 06:55 PM
That looks fantastic Reece! (tip: you gotta remember to set the cranks to the 2o'clock/8o'clock startgate position with pedals horizontal...lol)
James, sure thing will give you a buz next time. Croydon has a pretty good park with ramps etc so we might try down there too. I'm gonna have to put together a 20" without knobbies for a change. (btw, racing last night was great- hanging 4 you to get that s&m going...)
Mar 17 2006, 07:32 PM
Thanks Mark, I just sold it!
Now to finish the 24" QS!
Mar 17 2006, 09:52 PM
Awesome Quicksilver - one of the nicest I've ever seen!
Hey guys, I've been busy on a new bike . . . see it here:http://www.vintagebmx.com/cgi-bin/ultimate...t=006074#000000www.martin-bike.com
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