COASTY
Nov 4 2010, 03:46 AM
LOl You know I thought the one Mick sent was you? You both look similar from behind and in a dress!
Nice.
dubrat
Nov 4 2010, 04:41 PM
Guys
I know its probably been covered before
Who do you use to ship from USA to Australia?
and what amount does it usually end up being for a complete?
Any help would be awesome.
Regards
Dubrat
Kurt.
Nov 4 2010, 05:32 PM
The only postal service to use is USPS. Fedex and UPS are rogues and their prices are 2 - 3 times that of USPS.
Have never shipped a complete myself, but framesets are around the $80 - $100 mark depending on how tightly packaged.
edit: Wow, nice gear Glenn!
broke L345
Nov 4 2010, 08:31 PM
completes can be around 300, usually in two packages
JMCGT
Nov 5 2010, 12:16 AM
yeh frame forks, bars and bits in one box usps about $100 and the wheels with the rest another $100.. $220 should cover it..
Matt
Brisben
Nov 5 2010, 01:05 AM
Gotta love the Postie!
This FINALLY arrived today and I'm totally stoked - it is in much better condition that I imagined, I seriously cannot believe how bright the anno on this is!
Haven't even cleaned it
(last pic is the wheels that are going on it I think
Gentlemen
Presenting my latest acquisition, 1977 Cycle Pro (ignore the headtube decal)





broke L345
Nov 5 2010, 02:02 AM
wow Ben,
what colour are you going to anodise it?

and those comp II's aren'y era correct you better throw them my way!
COASTY
Nov 5 2010, 02:02 AM
Geez thats clean Ben. Nice frame for sure.
Brisben
Nov 5 2010, 02:17 AM
Christian - I'm going to strip it and mirror polish it
The tyres are rubbish - I'm also busy colouring in the bearings on the bullseyes - they are kind of a brown colour
How hard is it to get that yellow stuff of the spokes with a steelo ?
This is the frame I was talking about from Roc...
broke L345
Nov 5 2010, 02:20 AM
Kurt.
Nov 5 2010, 04:40 AM
Beautiful Ben! Who made the '77 Cycle Pros? Looks SO FMF made.
Brisben
Nov 5 2010, 05:59 AM
QUOTE (Kurt. @ Nov 5 2010, 08:40 PM)

Beautiful Ben! Who made the '77 Cycle Pros? Looks SO FMF made.
Same guy as FMF and Race Inc. from what I can tell - Bill Bastian
From what I can ascertain the reason this is Cycle pro is that there is no serial number and the seam under the matchbox
broke L345
Nov 5 2010, 06:24 AM
Stunning FF Ben!
been quiet here recently.
just going to bed now, Knox tomorrow. I'm taking three bikes, all G boys That's all I have now.
looking forward to meeting and seeing all the BMX bananas.
I'll post pics tomorrow.
Cheers
C.
84profile
Nov 5 2010, 10:03 AM
Nice Benny, very nice! Are those tire Cheng Shengs?

Hey you know the bit that send shivers down my spine is the fact that I stripped a perfectly good red survivor (similar condition to yours) Race Inc and mirror polished it and then anodised it blue...Oh the shame!
I'm gutted I'm gunna miss Knox I was hoping a trip down this year might have been possible..apparently not..Please stick up all the photo's you can!
juanrmattos
Nov 5 2010, 10:29 AM
Pardon, but the weld behind the Bottom Bracket shell is call a Love Weld, and was Bill's signature when he worked for Race Inc (And very few other jobs he made for SE Racing when they were backed up on production).... Are you positive this is a Cycle Pro???
Jarvi
Nov 5 2010, 11:00 AM
Looks great Ben and the colour has held up considering red used to fade so much.
That said, I'd still take the Alessi stuff over the BMX stuff... Well not really.
QuicksilverBMX
Nov 5 2010, 06:33 PM
wow everytime I come here the builds are getting older!
Are we going to see some early 70's Swhinn builds soon?
84profile
Nov 5 2010, 07:48 PM
Not from me...80's baby, that's where it's at!!!
Brisben
Nov 5 2010, 07:54 PM
QUOTE (juanrmattos @ Nov 6 2010, 02:29 AM)

Pardon, but the weld behind the Bottom Bracket shell is call a Love Weld, and was Bill's signature when he worked for Race Inc (And very few other jobs he made for SE Racing when they were backed up on production).... Are you positive this is a Cycle Pro???

I was under the impression that because it doesn't have a serial number it's A Cycle Pro where the Race Inc.'s had the RAXXXXXXXX type number on the dropout ?
There was mention on another forum that all pre 78 FMF, Race Inc, Laguna etc frames had this weld until they sourced the tube in one piece.
Your thoughts Juan?
broke L345
Nov 6 2010, 01:59 AM
The Groovy seventies were much better than the new romantic 80's
COASTY
Nov 6 2010, 04:26 AM
Agreed! Life was good. All I ever wanted was a YZ80. lol
I wish I could go back to my skatey days then bmx. Oh the fun I could have!
Can't wait to see that frame built Ben.
Volcano
Nov 6 2010, 07:05 AM
Knox Rocked!!! Had a fantastic day

Great to catch up with the Victorian guys (oh and that NSW guy - "Judge Norm" ....LOL)
Scored some sweet parts too:
NOS Shimano pad & Mongoose vinyl pad, NOS Shimano decal set, Dura Ace crank tool, Black Comp2 skinwall & finned Mathauser brake pads...
Christian - thank heaps mate for the pedal on the G-Boy
Adrian - was also great to go for a ride out in the carpark
Will post up my Knox pics whaen I get back to Brissy.....
GTHODAD
Nov 6 2010, 08:18 AM
Knox did indeed rock. Almost forgot to take pics.
This pic showed a good range.
juanrmattos
Nov 6 2010, 09:02 AM
QUOTE (Brisben @ Nov 5 2010, 09:54 PM)

I was under the impression that because it doesn't have a serial number it's A Cycle Pro where the Race Inc.'s had the RAXXXXXXXX type number on the dropout ?
There was mention on another forum that all pre 78 FMF, Race Inc, Laguna etc frames had this weld until they sourced the tube in one piece.
Your thoughts Juan?
Well, That is exactly why I wanted to ask... It has been a mystery for me as well, a few months back I found this one bellow in my stash, as you can see, pretty close to your "Cycle Pro", Sold to me as a "Laguna" and Sold by me as a very early "Race Inc" (Because of the Love Weld):
In all honesty, I just don't know
caferacer
Nov 6 2010, 06:50 PM
Ben, the big give away that this is not a 1977 made frame is the brake bridge and the drop outs.
I would say just a Race. inc frame from maybe early 79.
OldSkoolRoy
Nov 7 2010, 02:12 AM

in bicycle motorcross action, isn't trash can jones doing a test on a laguna ?
COASTY
Nov 7 2010, 03:04 AM
Didn't the FMF frames have a hole in the gusset?
AdrianH
Nov 7 2010, 05:35 AM
QUOTE (Volcano @ Nov 7 2010, 12:05 AM)

Knox Rocked!!! Had a fantastic day
Great to catch up with the Victorian guys (oh and that NSW guy - "Judge Norm" ....LOL)
Scored some sweet parts too:
NOS Shimano pad & Mongoose vinyl pad, NOS Shimano decal set, Dura Ace crank tool, Black Comp2 skinwall & finned Mathauser brake pads...
Christian - thank heaps mate for the pedal on the G-Boy
Adrian - was also great to go for a ride out in the carpark
Will post up my Knox pics whaen I get back to Brissy.....
Mick, great day. Fantastic bikes. Wazas two Redlines were amazing. Loved that flocked Haro. Riding away from the cops cause we didnt have helmets was cool.
Brisben
Nov 7 2010, 06:13 AM
Now I'm really confused
here's the two I have
I always called the diamond style dropouts "FMF"
When did they change the brace on the wheel stays?
The red one has a big one and the gold one has a little one, the gold one has a RA serial and the same dropouts
The gold one doesn't have the seam underneath the matchbox

COASTY
Nov 7 2010, 03:22 PM
I see your problem Ben. If it helps, Troy has those diamond dropouts on his Ripper too.
Bill Bastion had a bad habit of mixing and matching parts from different parts bins.
Every FMF I've seen had the hole in the front gusset.
juanrmattos
Nov 7 2010, 07:11 PM
Yes Agreed, But REMEMBER Bill welded for Race Inc, SE Racing and FMF.
I firmly believe Ben's frame is a Race Inc (Not sure if the RA-8 Was ever made in Pro Size but it just looks like the 80/81 Jr size with the Big Gusset and Diamond Dropout). RA Being the Serial in Ben's
MrProline
Nov 7 2010, 08:14 PM
Jarvi
Nov 7 2010, 08:49 PM
At least they all had one thing in common as evidenced by the gold frame in Ben's photo.
ozredline
Nov 7 2010, 10:57 PM
this is mine,one of the guru's on the museum id'd it as a race inc built Laguna or Rampar,
notice the fmf dropouts,but ra serial number,it is one of only a few he has seen like that,
the sticker's were on it when i got it,but you can see were other sticker's used to be.

juanrmattos
Nov 7 2010, 11:00 PM
Yep!!!... This is exactly the same as Ben's.... Is an 80/81 Race Inc RA-8 frame set.
ozredline
Nov 7 2010, 11:05 PM
QUOTE (juanrmattos @ Nov 8 2010, 03:00 PM)

Yep!!!... This is exactly the same as Ben's.... Is an 80/81 Race Inc RA-8 frame set.
really not sure Juan because you can see the shape of the rampar sticker's,
were the anno hasn't faded as much,mine doesn't have the love weld underneath either.
juanrmattos
Nov 7 2010, 11:17 PM
Yes, but the serial number is undeniable... The love weld only means it was welded by Bill (All others by whomever was seating on the jig).
ozredline
Nov 7 2010, 11:28 PM
If only all the manufacture's were as fastidious with there document's as Jim Melton,
but then again what would we all discuss on the forum's?
JMCGT
Nov 8 2010, 03:21 AM
troyboy66
Nov 8 2010, 04:24 AM
Ben, welcome to the FMF drop out club lol.



& no Matt ,u cant have it lol.
ozredline
Nov 8 2010, 06:05 AM
Kurt.
Nov 8 2010, 06:18 AM
Beautiful exotic gear Matt!
Volcano
Nov 8 2010, 07:07 AM
Mmmm....Nomura...
84profile
Nov 8 2010, 04:55 PM
QUOTE (ozredline @ Nov 8 2010, 10:05 PM)

Oh yes they are awesome. I love em'!! Very, very rare grip!!! Swap you for some Ame tri's, yes?
pr200
Nov 9 2010, 12:23 AM
Lovely Matt, as always..........
Cracking stuff!
B
broke L345
Nov 9 2010, 12:59 AM
stunning Matt
Brisben
Nov 9 2010, 03:12 AM
ozredline
Nov 9 2010, 03:35 AM
QUOTE (84profile @ Nov 9 2010, 08:55 AM)

Oh yes they are awesome. I love em'!! Very, very rare grip!!! Swap you for some Ame tri's, yes?
haha,maybe if they had some profile bars attached.

QUOTE (Brisben @ Nov 9 2010, 07:12 PM)

My latest 24" to arrive
looks sweet Ben,very Profilesish..
84profile
Nov 9 2010, 05:16 AM
If that is the BB that was on Ebay about 6 months back, I had a finger hovering over the buy it now! Glad to see it ended up local..that has some very interesting heritage...Profile built and bascally indentical to a Profile 24' minus the ladder bar...Awesome pick up p00f!
84profile
Nov 9 2010, 05:18 AM
QUOTE (ozredline @ Nov 9 2010, 07:35 PM)

haha,maybe if they had some profile bars attached.

How about a set of new school bars with a Profile sticker?
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