Landis News

Very interesting stuff

It looks like he's almost exausted his appeals. It's got to be extremely expensive and difficult to run a dope control. No wonder why these guys are all sauced. It's too expensive (legally) to test them.

Anti-Doping (in all realms) is a joke! The tests are unreliable and expensive and there are no rules/standards for how proceedings are handled. They want to act like they are a court of law but then don't follow due process.

It's a joke.

What a mess.

Jeeeeeez! Don't they all blood dope anyway?

Did anyone get one of these

[ March 14, 2007, 09:58 PM: Message edited by: ROLLER ]

Is he able to Race this year Landis?

Not in France, but the rest is yet to be determined.

I still think he is innocent. Here is something from his site:

I am an avid cyclist and currently live in
Philadelphia. On the local npr show last month, the
most prominent performance enhancing drug specialist
was being interviewed. He has been doing research on
the topic at the University level for 30 years and has
fought off consistent recruitment efforts by European
cycling teams and doctors. He presented logical,
straight forward, scientific evidence why Floyd could
NOT have cheated; he stated, with regard to the Landis
case, two important exonerating FACTS:

1) If you test negative for testosterone one day and
positive the next and the following day, negative
again, this is IMPOSSIBLE b/c it takes months for
testosterone to leave your system. Why is landis
fighting w/ lawyers when he should rather present this
easy, logical, and scientific exonerating FACT?!

2) One would never use testosterone to go fast one
day. Testosterone is ONLY used during training to
improve recovery times. Again, Why is landis fighting
w/ lawyers when he should rather present this easy,
logical, and scientific exonerating FACT?!

Please please pass this info on to Floyd, his story is
breaking my heart. The callers to the show said their
mind about him had completely changed in light of the
most prominent expert in the field stating logically
sound reasons why FLoyd could not have cheated. Why,
w/ this medical info out there, is he not yet exonerated???!!!

Rob in Maryland Says:

Quick way to tell if they are doping is to look at their jaw muscles and adams apple. Those will look like the terminator if they've been doping. Word is these athletes have their own physicians which give them all these drugs which help them absorb more oxygen which is hard to detect. I think if they could better detct these drugs there would be no one to cheer for on the tour!!

It's EPO and they can't test for it, they can only test for indecators that they took it, like a high red cell count.

they've been able to detect synthetic EPO for about the past year, or so. that's why we're seeing more tranfusion offeses.

personally, it sickens me that cycling (namely road racing) is considered the most
doped sport in the world. Maybe it is, I honestly wouldn't know. But for the mainstream
sports media to treat it as a diseased afterthought while hyping 'pro' wrestling, MMA, competitive
scrabble...

They act as if cycling is full of non-athletes and NASCAR is loaded with superhumans.
(Little boys with big toys)

I consider Lance to be the greatest American athlete in history. Did he dope? I don't know.
And never will. Nor will any of us know how many stars of MLB, NFL, NBA, or even PGA
found some 'competitive edge'. Even coaches are into hi-tech cheating and will never
be expected to hand over a trophy even after being found guilty.

My post is filled with spite, that's my mood right now. But to bring it home, I'll say this.
My fear is that BMX in the olympics will be veiwed in the same way as all cycling.
Since it's 20 yrs late in being there (snowboarding beat it, for heaven's sake) it would
be a shame to see some backlash from the talkinghead sport zombies that love to
fill airtime and copyline with a senseless opinion.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHahahahahahahahaha!!!

What do you think now, Cash?!!!

I believe him regarding his implications of other riders; the thought of any of them doping would not surprise me at all. The fact that Floyd denied it and wasted 2 mill defending his lies removes any credibility to what he is currently saying. It will not take much for Lance's imminent smear campaign to get traction. Regardless, Floyd is a D-bag and this is just another black eye to road cycling:


In a bizarre twist to a long-running saga about doping in sports, cyclist Floyd Landis has finally admitted to using performance-enhancing drugs.

He also has accused former teammate Lance Armstrong of using drugs to win his seven Tour de France titles.

Landis' 2006 victory in the Tour de France was nullified by a positive test for synthetic testosterone and set off a series of legal skirmishes.

He told ESPN.com he used EPO, testosterone, HGH and also had frequent blood transfusions along with using female hormones.

Landis has sent a series of e-mails to cycling officials detailing the drug use, according to ESPN and other news outlets.

"I want to clear my conscience," Landis told ESPN. "I don't want to be part of the problem anymore."

He added that:

"I don't feel guilty at all about having doped. I did what I did because that's what we (cyclists) did and it was a choice I had to make after 10 years or 12 years of hard work to get there; and that was a decision I had to make to make the next step. My choices were, do it and see if I can win, or don't do it and I tell people I just don't want to do that, and I decided to do it."

Armstrong didn't immediately respond to the allegations, according to the Wall Street Journal, which reported that, in the e-mails, Landis accused Armstrong.

The New York Times says one cycling official who has received Landis' e-mails explained that Landis said his drug use started as a member of the U.S. Postal team in 2002. That team was led by Armstrong.

Landis' e-mails allege that U.S. Postal Team manager Johan Bruyneel introduced Landis to the use of steroid patches, blood doping and human growth hormone. The Times did not name the cycling official, who cited ongoing investigations, including by federal authorities, into the content of the emails.

Other cyclists named in the emails, according to the Times, were current U.S. road racing national champion George Hincapie, three-time Tour of California champion Levi Leipheimer and five-time U.S. time trial champion David Zabriskie.

Landis told ESPN.com that he has no documentation to prove most of his claims.

Link

I continue to be amazed that someone could ride the Tour De France, leave alone compete, leave alone compete and win, without drugs being ingested. The loophole being "I'm not doping, I'm taking prescribed medicine as supervised by a physician," which is correct.

I mean, y'all realize for most of us to complete a Tour single-day leg in one week would be a major accomplishment, no? Have you seen those frickin' mountains?

"Put me back on my bike"

Man when those guys go off the farm they really do it in a big way

I was bummed to hear the truth come out. Not because I'm a big road fan or Landis fan but because of the time people like him waste lying with all of their denials. Jerk.
Hey Cheez, your signature(s) are awesome. 1st and 3rd I've been a fan of for a while after reading them here on vintage. I like the 2nd one too! Funny.

True that:

French conspiracy makes me lolz

Those that know what you said are saying "wow!"