Some people swear those pitbulls will outperform cheap (diatech / tektro) 990's. I have never been able to get over how ugly they are

Does anyone have any Race Version stickers or any info on where to find some?
Thanks Beau

i was given the partially built one today. it had diffrent parts on it.
i put on it: it is s/n S&M128
challenger stem
boss cruiser bars
profile seat post clamp
velo ti rail seat
araya 7x w/ suzue sealed hubs
gt seat post - came with bike
24x1.75 rainbow comp 3's - came with bike
shimano brakes - came with bike

getting "GT" stamped profile cranks 175 chrome.
i need the non drive side arm only
the unbuilt frame is S&M180

I could give you scans for free but I won't sell them. Best I can offer lol. I have a full RV set in the bag. And I have the Neal W. ones too minus the proper headtube badge, just have a black regular badge in place of that one. Scans only, sorry if thats not good for you, but at least I have something to offer.

I am interested, PM sent.
Thanks,
Beau

Christmas came today, I've been trying to get this for almost six months! Now i need to figure out what wheels I need to use on the build. threaded holmes with no 990 mounts and 1/4" one piece dropouts. I figure that puts it about '92 or '93. I had the same crappy 7x's forever so I don't remember what would have been a good choice, any ideas?

Nice seann! But remember, just cause it doesn't have 990 mounts doesn't mean it can't be 94 or 95 either. As for wheels, Sun Mistral's with GT flip flop hubs! At least that's what I had on my Dirtbike back in the day.

i thought you had hutch forks. oh the stem.

thought i would revive this thread.
a 1995 dirtbke just about to be stripped so best i get this pic in.

s&m challenger


s&m rv 24"

Sweet bikes, and love the gold redneck. I remember challenger 20's with 1" threaded, but did the cruiser ever have threaded forks?

Heres me on my birthday ride in Sedona. I have been rocking my retro jersey on rides for a while. I have a S&M headtube sticker on there which has been a 10 yr tradition on all my mtb's. I am sporting the green warpig headtube sticker from the 20 yr anniv party.

Nbl 49a

going hardcore mtb with no helmet.. not to sound like a total dork. but... damn son!

Nope just a chill ride with my chick. I let her borrow my trail helmet and I left the Troy Lee Full face in the car.

Nbl 49a

My Challenger.. Finished I guess....
Hate the tires... seat is a bit too old..
Cant get the brakes dialed in just yet...
cant decide on the Black Pro race bars.. or the chrome challenger bars.. not sure if i want to use the Shadow stem either

Killer bike. The only thing I would do is throw a red seat on it. Really like the way the red "pops" on the bike.

Old-skull

my soon to be daily rider, 97ish S&M Challenger.


stripped it today and dropped it off to be painted. thanks again rlowride
it will be outfitted with S&M goods I already have lying around...

hard not to use a Challenger stem on a Challenger...

dang, i had that bike for like 4 months....
and you did more to it in one day than i did the whole time... cant wait to see it.....

do you got decals for these?

cant wait t see it..





Rick

I don't have any Challenger decals for it but I figured a smooth paint job and a few shields will go along way. I also have a few stickies from the 20th ann. party... I should have the frame back this week. I will keep you posted.
Jacob

I actually have 1 complete Challenger sticker set left, same as the ones on rlows ride there. Era correct.

pm sent!

keeping the thread alive with a 90 xl

Pure beauty ds-1, pure beauty. Going to build it?

Keep me in mind if you ever get tired of it!

-Matt

for lack of a digi camera, here's my new addition to the collection.

Wow, that's a cool mk1 Holmes

Original decals too?

Craig

all decals on the holmes are original. bike sat for 18 years.was sold at a garage sale and the 2nd buyer used it as a pit bike at mx races.lost the allen bolts for the bullseye hub on the front wheel so replaced with a walmart/kmart mongoose front wheel. on one side the decals are slightly scuffed from him letting the wrench hit as he tightened the nuts. downtube decal has minor scuffing as well. f/f is in imaculate condition.dropouts barely have any marks.seems that way back in 1990 the first owner used the proper washers to preserve the dropouts.
am the 3rd owner and am in the process of figuring out what parts i want to keep. swapped the regular dk stem for an invert and swapped the pedals for some victor platforms just to add some color.the wheels are being sold soon and replaced with?? have no idea yet. had some gold 7x rims and thought they might go well with the s&m pads but decided to stick with all chrome. just not sure about what hubs will be running.

I would keep the Bullseye on there. They are great hubs. They were the hubs of choice for me during that time period. Go to Home Depot or any hardware stre and get new allen bolts. Try for grade 8 level or any high quality allen bolt.

Nbl 49a

This is for sale (also in the classifieds):

My '94 (?) Dirtbike:















Man this thing heavy compared to my Elf; feels like I could drop it off a mountain and ride it away.


Steve

Nice Ride Steve. I'm a huge fan of the Chocolate Brown Dirt Bikes. It's around 94 give or take a year. It's got some '97-'98 decals. I love those Thrasher decals. Nice bike. If you ever decide to part with the frame and stem...



...let me know.

Thanks Miko,

Here's another shot that for some reason didn't load in the last post:









Steve

Nice. I absolutly love that brown color. Here's my recent DirtBike. I made it's own post for it but now I am thinking that was a mistake and I should have posted it here...so here it is again in the right place. 91-95...i can't pinpoint what year it is without decals. maybe you guys would know better? the wheels hint earlier 90's, but the GT parts on it suggest maybe 94/95 possibly, idk.

Measure the diameter of the seatstay and chainstay tubing. If it 3/4" it's later. Maybe 93-95. If it's smaller then it's probably 91-93.

Yep theyre both 3/4". Thanks Miko. Actually, both of my chrome 1" non-990 Dirtbike frames have 3/4" seat/chain stays. Thanks a bunch.

Maybe Ryan P. can measure his Badd/Dirt Bike and report what the chainstay diameter is. His is circa '91-'92. I know the early mk1 Holmes had thinner chainstays. I think they switched to 3/4" when they went back to the double diamond rear for the mk3 Holmes. I think that was late '92 or early '93

Great looking Dirtbikes guys! The brown is definitely cool. Didn't they the early Holmes frames come in brown as well? Thought I remember I guy from POSH here in PA getting a brown Holmes when they first came out. Bah. Whatever. Very cool nonetheless.

Just waiting on chainring bolts and I'll throw up a few pics of my Dirtbike(finally!)

-Matt

Man, both those Dirtbikes rule!

Secret, that setup is perfect. I'm jealous of the pegs and Jive Handles! Those GT tires too...

I love Dirtbikes/Holmes without 990's...

Could not agree with you more, Ryan.

-Matt

Thanks guys. Yea the pegs are early S&M pegs(whatever they called them if anything,idk).
My DirtBike is all as built when it was new BITD. Even the tubes and cable! Just took everything apart and tuned her up. It did have a GT bolt-on bashguard at one time though cuz there is the crimped chainstay bridge that lines up exactly with the one I have when I hold it up to it. Might just put it on there, lol.

Haha...got the last piece to the puzzle for the '95 first year 1 1/8 threadless project....the correct pitchforks for it. now just have to build up the wheels and have the frame powdered yellow, which i already have arrangements for. it will be posted in this thread asap.

Nice rides,nothing like a made is usa chromoly bike still going strong!!! I am putting my 92-95 holmes together may have pics of it up today

Haha, got to talkin with a kid from here on AIM thats into 80's freestyle bikes about Fred Blood from BITD, so I threw an extra peg on the Dirtbike i recently shown here and went out front thinking I could just simply do a Power Mower like I used to after 20 years...remember that trick? lol didn't happen, funny

http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/Bil...lampshim012.flv

yea man! and a lawnmower too! lol

Right on Secret!

I couldnt resist snapping this raw classic holmes kit up for cheap cuz i can throw it together quick to have an intresting rider that i don't have to worry about. i figure i'm spending alot of time/money to get a couple collector S&M's done, then why not take this dealie for $70 and have one that i can casually ride at the trails. wouldn't want to risk breaking the older projects i have going when they get done and i want to start saving my race bikes for racing. lacin some suzue sealed Hi's up to chrome BFR's next week and it will be done. not setting it up for street but as period correct dirtjumper. fat/skinny blackwall rainbowcomp 3's, no pegs, no gyro, no front brakes.

i love post hoggin' this thread i guess lol.
so here's a S&M collage i made for ya's all.

NICE PILE O BIKES how about a run down

I forgot to put in my blue Neal Wood frame, 5 S&M stems, and my bag of S&M stickers. Really bummed i misssed stuff for the pile. Won't be re-doing anytime soon, took bout 45 min. to make this pic today in my yard lol.
Only thing in the pic that might be going anywhere is the one 1" chrome DirtBike frame that is not built up,maybe ... if the trade is right.
here's a frame list in pic...
two early 90's 1" non-990 chrome dirtbikes
'93 black 1" 990 dirtbike
'95 first gen 1 1/8" threadless 990 dirtbike(matallic black car paint now...soon to be powdered back to it's original yellow.
'99 classic holmes in raw
'01 light grey RaceFrame 20"TT
'02 white RaceFrame 21"TT
'07 1/2 .38 Special 21"TT

forks...

(2) 1" threaded chrome PitchForks
first year non-wrap dropouts ('95)chrome 1 1/8" threadless PitchForks
(2) raw RaceForks with welded starnut
light grey '01 race Forks WITHOUT welded starnut
'02 raw PitchForks with welded starnut
'08 Black Race XLT forks

handlebars...

'95 chrome "slamdance" slambars uncut
NOS '96 chrome Challenger bars
'98 army green "slamdunk" slambars cut to 27"
'02 raw Berringer bars uncut
'02 black and uncut RaceBars
'04 RaceBars custom white powdered cut 27"
'06 chrome slamBars cut to 25"

s&m next generation holmes