oldbmxer34
Sep 19 2005, 04:32 PM
I recently aquired 2 bmx bikes One Aluminum And 1 chromo or steel... Both were sold to me as Gary Fishers... Are they worth anything And who is Gary Fisher????
dogpoundracing
Sep 19 2005, 04:44 PM
i have 2 gary fishers right now i cant get 20 bucks for um so i ride them
steef
Sep 19 2005, 04:52 PM
I have an aluminum one that I bought at a police auction for $75. It had Flight cranks.
Gary Fisher is a MTB legend whose company was bought by Trek. I don't think they ever made Klein, Bontrager, or LeMond BMX bikes after they gobbled those companies up.
[ September 19, 2005, 06:54 PM: Message edited by: steef ]
pitbulmike
Sep 19 2005, 05:56 PM
He is the Guy who built my mountain bike
indylodown
Sep 19 2005, 06:30 PM
I've heard of him but I dont know who he is either, but I have a really kool embroidered blk padset w/his name and logo on it.
[ September 19, 2005, 08:31 PM: Message edited by: indylodown ]
tumeke
Sep 20 2005, 03:02 AM
Oh man! Are you guys joking? When dudes were riding around on BMX's with suspension and chopping Schwinn Stingrays, Gary Fisher was putting gears and balloon tires on beach cruisers and bombing down fire access roads. He pretty much invented mountain biking. I met him one time when he came into the pack rat shop I work at. He was cool, humble despite all the rad stuff he'd done and still riding. Total legend. Chur.
reiser
Sep 20 2005, 03:40 AM
Gary Fisher = The Scot OM Breithaupt of Mountain Biking basically...
reiser
Sep 20 2005, 03:41 AM
that being said... Gary Fisher BMX bikes are ****e typically.
tumeke
Sep 20 2005, 02:59 PM
His bikes from the 80s through to the early 90s were pretty nice. I wouldn't be surprised if there were collectors out there. You're right though reiser; since the sale to trek, his bikes have been stink. Although you could argue that they're not really Fishers. Is anyone into old school MTB's?
oldbmxer34
Sep 20 2005, 03:30 PM
thanks guy's...I also have a trek 20" bmx bike...maybe i will sell em for scrap....
[ September 20, 2005, 05:31 PM: Message edited by: oldbmxer34 ]
cocacoles
Sep 20 2005, 04:01 PM
reiser
Sep 20 2005, 07:30 PM
on the mountain bike side of things Trek and Fisher still make some really nice bikes actually. I have an old school late 80s Fish steel Mountain Bike and the thing is a tank. It flew off my bike rack on the freeway @ 70 miles per hour and survived (granted no one hit the thing - thank god).
But they are definitily not leading the industry. The leaders in Mountain bike currently are Specialized, Santa Cruz, Intense etc. Cannondale was an industry leader until they got themselves into financial trouble attempting to get into the Motorcycle industry.
My current MTB is a Santa Cruz Blur LT and I love it.
steef
Sep 21 2005, 07:18 AM
I dig older MTBs. I have an '87 Ritchey Ascent. I used to have two other '80s Ritcheys. Also in my stable '94 S-works FSR, '92 or '93 Klein Rascal that needs some work, Cannondale Killer V that also needs work.
t2p
Sep 21 2005, 11:12 AM
Yes ........ Gary Fisher he is about as big as they get in the world of off road bicycles ....
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He is one of the many that 'claims' to be the father of the mountain bike.
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He was a 1988 Mountain Bike Hall of Fame inductee:
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http://www.mtnbikehalloffame.com/inductees...?page=99&mID=31 .
Gary Fisher started a BMX team in 1997 according to the site. Some of the specs for late 90's Gary Fisher BMX bikes can be found here:
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http://www.bikearchive.com/action.php?acti...nd&brand=FISHER..
Althought a Gary Fisher BMX bike may not be at the top of the list for most (Vintage) BMX'ers, there are people that search and collect anything 'Fisher' ..........
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[ September 21, 2005, 01:17 PM: Message edited by: t2p ]
TuRBo Todd Britton
Sep 21 2005, 11:25 AM
Gary is still very actively involved with the design and direction of Fisher bikes and I would take any of the Trek built Fishers over any 12 year old, or older, mtb. I've had Fisher Kai Tai's, Paragon's, Sugars, Cakes, and just got a Bitter (freeride hardtail). If you want to host a pic here, I'll send you a pic of Gary and myself taken last month at the Trek '06 Dealer show.....
TuRBo Todd Britton
Sep 21 2005, 11:26 AM
Oh yeah, and I have one of the Trek built (USA, w/true temper tubing) Bontrager BMX frames too...
Mike Corvin
Sep 27 2005, 01:41 PM
Gary Fisher did not invent the mountain bike. There were lots of folks around back then who made mountain bikes what they are today and also went on to "produce" mountain bikes.
Joe Breeze - Breezer
Charlie Cunningham - Wilderness Trail Bikes
Tom Ritchey - Ritchey
Scott Nichol - Ibis
These are just the ones I can think of right off the top of my head.
Mike Corvin
Sep 27 2005, 01:59 PM
Here's a few more:
Richard Cunningham - Mantis
Doug Bradbury - Manitou
Joe Murray - Kona
Mike Sinyard - Specialized
Mert Lawwill - Lawwill/Knight
Jeff Lindsey - Mountain Goat
John Parker - Yeti
Ross Schafer - Salsa
Victor Vincente of America - Topanga
TimL
Sep 27 2005, 03:16 PM
I still have the Fisher I rode in 1985! It's one of my favorite bikes to tool around on. Can you believe those socks?
tumeke
Sep 27 2005, 09:53 PM
Silly me...
Rad photo TimL, you look like you're hooning. Is that front wheel of the ground?
indylodown
Sep 28 2005, 02:42 AM
Mert Lawwill - Lawwill/Knight.........My dad raced flattrack motorcycles with Mert Lawill in the late 60's.
reiser
Sep 28 2005, 07:26 PM
Oh the history of mountain biking... Mike Corvin is correct that Fisher did not invent the mountain bike. In fact, no one can really difinitively say where mountain biking - or specifically the act of riding your bike off road etc. was invented.
However, the generally accepted notion is that mountain biking as we know it today was invented in Northen California / Marin County in the early 70s. The first mountain bike was built by a guy named Breezer in the early 70s also (74ish from what I recall). Ritchey and Fisher however were some of the early pioneers who went on to make a name for themselves in the industry in the same way Scot Breithaupt or Bob Haro did with BMX.
The Smothsonian recognizes Fisher as the founding father of Mountain Biking...
Reilley1
Sep 28 2005, 08:37 PM
Repack!!
steef
Sep 28 2005, 11:26 PM
quote:
I would take any of the Trek built Fishers over any 12 year old, or older, mtb
Blasphemy!!! Vintage MTBs are fun! I have an '87 Ritchey that still rocks my socks. Just because everything shifts smoother and stops faster doesn't mean it's better. I also know better than to take a bike off a 30 foot drop. I am getting with the times and upgraded to a '94 S-works FSR. It still has thumbshifters, though, and I will be ditching the V-brakes for Cantis. I do want a 29er, though, just because I don't have one... [/retrogrouch rant]
Anyone remember the Skinner Descender from BMXA, I think?
Mike Corvin
Sep 30 2005, 07:57 AM
Yea Tim - Factory Pilots in effect. You look like you were on the gas there.
I think the old mountain bikes rode a lttle better than modern ones if you factor out suspension. Guys like Ritchey and his bros were roadies first, so when they made frames then they were typically of lugged construction w/ high quality tubing. Building a bike like that makes for a very compliant ride. I still have an '85 Stumpjumper that I commute on and it has a "magical" quality about it that I can't quite explain. It is a beautifully constructed lugged frame, even the fork is lugged, nothing like any Stumpjumper from later years when they sent production overseas.
Oh, yea we remember the Descender. Brian Skinner was a full suspension pioneer. By that point we were really pushing the envelope on what you could do on a slack-angled bike w/ no suspension, and we wanted to try bikes like that in the worst way. The Mantis Pro-Floater was the first suspension bike I truly lusted after.
30 foot drops are fully possible - you just need the proper conditions and mindset, and the right bike.
OldSkoolRoy
Oct 3 2005, 06:05 AM
99' AIR BOB by Gary Fisher...My current ride.
Mike Corvin
Oct 3 2005, 06:51 AM
That bike looks fun. It don't matter who made it I guess, as long as it don't break and you like the way it rides. I regret selling my new-school 20" I miss it now. But on the other side of the coin it was so hard on my knees.
cheez
Oct 3 2005, 08:35 AM
He was quite a powerful roadie too
steef
Oct 5 2005, 07:58 AM
quote:
30 foot drops are fully possible - you just need the proper conditions and mindset, and the right bike.
And good insurance.
It's just nothing I'd attempt to do. The old body doesn't heal like it used to and it's been abused enough already.
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