a DQ photo. Ouch! Kinda reminds me of you old farts crashing now

Fathers Race Sequence

Bummer! That's Eden Prairie.

I remember at race at Big Willow where they did the same thing (except that was a downhill) - my friends dad went over the bars and messed up his neck. They never learned this was a bad idea?

Its no different than us stupid fools racing/riding now... These guys are about the same age. Now putting that into perspective, it is cool that we can still do it, well to a point anyway. I'm not fearless, and the brain gets in the way of the pair. Mark did ya get that one?

What no new pics? what kinda of cheap operation you run'n here? j/k

Manhole = Manning? I don't get it

LeSuererrrr 1987 PHOTOS HERE

Hey everyone.
I'm not from Minnesota, but I did stay at Holiday Inn once.

Johnny Johnson
San Diego, ABA Cal-2/ NBA District S

Geez Brad! 89 page thread. Got my work cut out for me.

Hey Shawn Sheely! I know who you are! LOL!

Monticello 1987. This track looks great!

Hey Johhny,

Good of you to stop by... Everything good?

Merry and a Happy...

Check out the last 10 pages. We had a long time 70-90's MN racer start handing over his photo album to Mark Conley....There's some pretty sweet footage and I'm sure you can help ID some of the riders.

Hey Johnny! The man that knows everything and everybody! Welcome to Minnesota.

So when did the rear wheel covers come into play?

Hi Johnny! Ya, I remember too. Thanks for stopping by - there's no room at the Inn, now go back to your sunny weather

I love the Nathan Benjammin-influenced helmet/visor style on #1 here.

And isn't that bike a little small and noodle-like for that kid?

It's always nice when Johnny Johnson stops by, especially because it means Eddy King is nearby.

When Shad Holland starting racing (spoke blaster!) Only John Palmershiem and Randy Herget will get that one.

Sadly Eddy doesn't come around this site anymore. After the war of the members he bailed. It took 4 years to get him on here and about 4 days to leave.

Sandblaster, wasn't it you that ran your visor flipped up the wrong way LMAO! Obviously for a laff.

I never knew that Le Suere track existed? That was when I beginning my great freestyle career. But still, I went to races to ride. That is a tight setup. But looks like it would be fun to check out. Where did all these racers come from that raced there? Seems nobody went there.. I need a building like that.. around here. I ride that baby all the time..

I'm going guess most of the first-gen riders were done by this point. I think Mercado, Lyndsey, etc. still raced. How bout Boecker? Sandpiper? Chucky? IN 87 bmx still had the OS thing going on, and doesn't look like to much change other than attendence.

Well it is his loss for not coming on here anymore. Most of the guys that bailed, after the war, just liked to hear how awesome everybody thought they were BITD anyway.

Vintage is by far the best place to reconnect with old friends of the past.
I had a good friend get a hold of me just a few days ago. He said he wasn't even really trying to find me, just happened across this site and sent me a PM.

I am glad that all of us can come here and talk about what we remember from the old days. It seems that everyone has a slighty different angle on the races we went to.

Plus, with all of these photos that most of us haven't seen before, who could ask for more?
We all remember the shots from BMXA, but it is the ones posted on here that weren't in any magazine that are the coolest to see now.

You are right on with this!

I would have never imagined finding "ANY" of these old friends/people this late in life. PLUS the new friends that have been made that I never knew were around when I raced.

Carruth, and all the others involved before, came up with the best "Linked" gathering site I have ever seen for such a huge group of great people!

It just gets better everyday!

P.S. And yes, poop on all the others that had to create their "own Island" and take the ball and go home. It is sad, because I like MANY became interested in this sport because of some of them. But later in life, when meeting a small amount of them, really made me think twice about making someone "my idol" in life.

Screw teh Holiday Inn, Johnny can stay at my pad anytime he wants to hang in the cold and snow here.

I actually remember wheel covers way back in 1979. spoke covers. The kar city guys had them. they were like smoked auburn color, and they would put decals on them. before the opaque ones of the 1980's.

Hey guys! Thanks for the welcome!
You guys definately know cold.
But we're experiencing a very cold front right now in So Cal.
It's about mid 40's tonight right now. Not sure about temperature during the day.

Funny, I talked to Eddy tonight for a few min.
Honestly, I don't think he's on the BMX sites much. But I would guess he lurks here occasionally.
He posts maybe once a month at BMXAO, mainly to people he's known forever.

So Ted Carl, Mark Conley, and Bryan Franklin.... You guys are all from Minnesota too?

Honestly, outside of knowing about the the Jag BMX Worlds,
I never knew much about your state.

I met Carmen Electra in 96' after she was done dating Prince when he had a club in Minneapolis.
I remember her telling me how being from So Cal
and experiencing the weather difference is almost inconcievable.
Insane freezing cold.

Well......How about some details about this? Who cares about how pppfffuggin cold it is in Minnesota today----right this very minute....I wanna hear about Carmen

Johnny - your 40 is like our 5 below, so it's gotta' be cold there. Common' up for the Condo Classic - we need some out'a staters to mix it up (and bring Carmen - we'll keep her warm!)

Pat - I'll go you one better, remember those aluminum disk wheels in '78/79?

I scored some old BMXA's on ebay & it got me to thinking about all the guys from that era in IA. Snooped around, and voila, & I find Bryan! Honestly, I thought all this was lost forever except the memories. It is an incredible feeling to re-connect with people I knew well or just reading the names of the guys & their stories from other states. I'm still trying to take it all in.

Bryan- Is that you on the misc thread on the infield of the indoor track in the Kar City kit? Looks like ya.

What was this member war you guys speak of?

[quote name='butterfield' date='Dec 16 2008, 12:06 PM' post='677038']
Terry Tennette also races sprints at Hellyer on occasion.

Mention you talked with me. Terry and I had great time at the Olympic Training Center in early 2003. The man is as funny as he is ripped. Not to mention strong, fast and... what else hmmm. Oh, ripped.

I took images of his abs for my mother. She loves a nice 8 pack but did not bless her son with a set.

Dirk Copeland? I guess you would be hard pressed to find a better Madison partner. What a machine.

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Briggs & Copeland AVC 2008

Eh', he's ok on the track...

Johnny, When I lived in the Ant-valley it was in the 30-40's all the time during the Winter, thus bouncing back to 60-70's during the day.....2500ft elevation vs 300ft makes for BIG changes in the ol-temps. I miss the beach about now, but turned my beach fetish to the Gulf-O-Florida...

Yeah Pat, that is me satnding in the infield at Elkhorn. I went up there almost every week back then.
I am not quite that thin anymore.

As for the member war...I will PM you on that one. Not really that big of a deal, I just don't want to bring down the vibe of this thread.

I'm glad that you are here Pat. You have really pumped me up about the old days.
Thanks.

I have thought the same thing many times.

I guess it just comes down to we are all just regular guys and gals riding our bikes trying to have fun.

agree..... well said guys.

There is so much MN and IA activity I'm starting to forget what thread I'm on. We have the same people reply'n to both threads now...... haaaaaaa!

I think I was the only one to try them, I looked really cool... When I jumped, I would hit my back brake in the air and it would freeze..... It was a cool break dancing move in the 80's!

Someone PLEASE identify this bike I don't remember having

I know all of you guys spotted the sweet mullet flowing out of the back of my helmet in this picture!

gary, in some of the pics, like the one above, some guys have letters after their numbers, like nbl.
did mn have some nbl tracks then?

and another question brad touched on.
who and what was hawk?

Looks like a Huffy.



LOL

GT? Those forks look like Tange...

Yes there was NBL back then but it was in the very early 80's and late 70's but mostly in the south as I remember.

Hawk was a local factory team that was run by Dave Fischer, who actually, is the guy that is in the background in that Lesueur picture and they were pretty competitive at the National level.

I wanna say its an OM(looks brown), but the only one I thought I had was new after I quite, and was never even put together. O' well I'm sure Brad should be along shortly to set it straight

Here a crappy enlagement may help. This may have been Pat Nelsons I was riding

Looks very SE-like to me, Pat had an OM didn't he?

I met Carmen Electra because I was a DJ a big club in Palm Springs called Chilers 94'- 96'.
There was a Billboard Magazine awards event and they rented the club for the after party.
Carmen came up to the DJ booth, asked if it was cool to leaver her stuff and come up as she pleased.
No prob. She was very nice and suprisingly normal. She introduced me to Tommy Davidson, Tone Loc,
Ricky Bell from Bel Biv Devoe/ New Edition and a couple of her girlfriends.
For the record...... Red genie pants and a sleeveless white collard top. No digits..... Oh well. LOL!

Mark,
That's an OM Flyer 26" Mike had a 26" Mongoose Cruiser I know and I'm sure an SE as well.

Christ, I can tell what gear you're running!
41x16 size 10.5 Vans 45psi front, maybe 50 up front & your right sock has a hole in it.

Sorry..... 40-18

Vans Size 11

Mark was known for his rott'n feet.... Hardly ever raced with socks, but wore always red satin shorts under the leathers.

Took a look a page 79 where you guys wer talkin about the 08' ABA Grands.
Great to see Dave Christensen racing! I heard he had been back racing again.
Did you see the clip of him in Joe Kid on a Stingray where he's beating
Schwinn's Donny Atherton into the first berm at Rancho in San Diego!!!!
Any day in 79' - 80' where you were beating Atherton was a good day!!!!
Plus if you hadn't heard, Rancho's first berm was legendary for it being TERRIFYING
and notorious for sending plenty of racers to the hospital. Way to go Dave!

I remember that pic of DC that he's using for his avatar.
I'm sure he was diggin' the power wheelie with the chain flexing
in front of Atherton AGAIN! Some just have it too good!!
That was a Nor Cal race. Maybe Fremont? Angelscamp?

You guys mentioned Dave Archibald.
My dad, a NBA/ ABA track official got him started racingin 79'!!!
Dave's dad owned a car repair biz in San Diego that my dad went in one time.
Dave had a blue race Inc hanging from the ceiling. My dad said, "Hey kid, is that your bike?"
He had never been to a race. We took him and he signed up.
Dave said he's the number 1 or 2 longest lasting riders to CONSISTENTLY
have a BMX license in the Pacific North West.
He always renews his licence every year since 79'.

Johhny, so what happend to Donny Atherton? Like you stated, 79-80 he was the guy to beat and then, gone!!! We have a few pics of Atherton/DC or DC Atherton... Mark???

Archibald, I believe his bmx existance is that long.....Crazy! Still running like a scalded dog in the 24" class...

Willie Hubener.........
I remember Diamond Back's team manager, the late Sandy Finkelman talling me
(a year before he passed away) that Willie had contacted him and was in college.
Think he may have said he was playing football. Sandy was very happy to hear from Willie.

Funny that Torker pic on page 81 (?) It could be a jab at Torker cause they were going bankrupt
at the time. And when you're going bankrupt...... you owe people money.... advertising, racers, cough cough.

Brad you mentioned Wayne Croasdale. Do you remember what team he was on in 81'?
He wore a black and yellow uniform. His teammate Mike Kitchen joined Vintage a few
years ago. Asked me if I remembered him.
I said "Who can forget that name? Just can't remember anything else though." LOL!

Brad,
Was it you that mentioned Charlie Brackens took you out?
I just found a pic of Charlie and I riding around staging at the 83' Worlds in Burbank.
I think his big brother Tommy told me Charlie had one leg longer than the other.
Trip, I thought Breithaupt was the only one. Breithaupt ran two different length cranks.
Think Charlie ran the same length on both sides. LOL!

Butterfield,
Am I mistaken, or did you get a headshot and a small write up in Super BMX magazine?
Also, a few years ago, did you race at an ABA national at Lake Perris (So.Cal)?
I had a guy named Butterfield in my moto in 36 & over Expert.
I heard some people saying he was an Pro in the mid- late 80's.


I saw a pic about 6 years ago of a group of steel workers in a union.
Donny Atherton was one of them. I honestly couldn't figure out which one was him.
He turned Pro in 1981, raced for a few factory teams, but not nearly as successful as his Am career.
He was a VERY nice guy to me. That's what I remember him the most for.

Brad, I was going through some old magazines last weekend looking for a Sheely's Wheels ad, I came across some NBL races in 1984 or 85, Donny Atherton came out in a privateer uniform and waxed all the big name pros of the day at a couple of races.

On the Willie Huebner thing - I was thinking maybe Torker was ignorant to something else, but I guess that makes sense as well.

I also came across my podium picture from the 1999 Norba National at Seven Springs PA - Rob Sears took first (Rob recently passed away), then Wayne in 2nd (didn't show for the podium - guess he knew the check was in the mail), and me in third for the 35-40 Men's downhill.

Oh, and Johnny - Butterfield now goes by the name Lindstrom. Has since the mid/late '80's.

BTW - the Sheely's Wheel's ad circa 1984:

I would like to order that Patterson frame for $139.95 please

Pro or Std? It's on backorder at the moment, and I'll need your card number.