Well guys I am preety excited my buddy just droped this off for me and it is an earley one but the serial # is gone can anyone give me a year.
Thanks for the help.
Rick

that is not a Goose.... but I can't remember what it is.

Looks like a 75/76 Goose, but there were a lot of copies made back then. That hole in the drop out looks different.

Doug

Oh its a Goose I know that for sure. kcmobmx you are thinking of a Moto One and they are made really cheap. Just wondering the year

Definitely a goose, probably a 75. The first one out had the short top tube, then late 75 or early 76 they came out with a longer version. The top tube length will tell the story. I have one also.

The experts here got me all dialed in on mine.

My guess is a 76 because of the holes on the rear dropouts, and the brake tab.

The early coaster brake tabs were laminated. They were 2 pieces edge welded together. Mine is a very early one, and has welded tabs. Yours looks like the brake tab might be thinner, and made from one piece. Have a closer look at it.



The decals should be Moto-mag, and mine is S/N 10771. I believe the first one was S/N 10,000, and there are only about 2 or 3 known older than mine. But if you can find the S/N it can be placed/dated pretty accurately in all the "goose guys" records.



Police use acid etching to raise scraped off serial numbers. This might be something you want to try if the S/N on the BB is truly gone.


The S/N on mine is on the bottom of the B/B.

I am using my goose as the latest project in the -Who wants to learn to polish- thread in the resto section. Looks like you can follow right along in the process with that one. ( I don't know that I'd skip right to the final project in the thread though)

T

Cash
Its got a 16 1/2 in. top tube does that mean it is a 75.
Thanks Rick

The brake tab is key to 75 or 76. Welded is earlier.

The goose project starts on page 12...

http://www.vintagebmx.com/cgi-bin/ultimate...4;t=005471;p=12


Here is what the welded tab looks like. Also mine does not have holes in the rear dropouts. I belive they made shorties and longs during 76.



But my extensive goose knowledge only comes from the experts here that taught me, so there will be more input for you coming for sure.

[ August 19, 2007, 06:46 PM: Message edited by: Ted Carl ]

I had a '76 Mongoose Motomag with a nickel-plated frame until hurricane Katrina. It looked exactly like that except for the round holes in the rear dropouts. My '76 had the short version top tube, but they made a longer version later that year. BMX Products made bikes for a bunch of different brands back then so I'm not sure. It may be a 1975 'goose.

What Carl said, as well as the seat stay difference

75


76

Nice score firebird.....that's a '76 or '77 mongoose frame you got there with a couple of extra holes someone drilled in the dropouts. The guys already mentioned some features unique to the '75. Also notable on the early '75 is what appears to be thinner dropout material.



Also, my early '75 frame has what I thought was a ding until I realized it's crimp marks from the tubing bender consistently near all the bends in the seat and chain stay....not something you see on later frames after quality control was stepped up....visible as the double lines crimped into the seat stay tube nearest the ground.



Here's my short frame '76....I believe the short(16-1/2") and standard(18-1/2") length frames were available 75, 76 and 77.