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Jeremy K.
P,

Killer shot as always. Whats up with David Bakers socks with slippers? blink.gif I think with your zen approach to jumping you'll be getting sick air in no time. Glad to see you are doing the research and will take the plunge. I have a 24 SE Quadangle on order thats supposed to come in the Spring....Whenever the spring is...ha ha. I guess we don't pay much attention to seasons as the rest of the world does. But, I am having so much fun on the 20" now. Slowly trying to get the "skills" back and learn new ones like manualling. If Changstar gets the track up and running I will see you there! Post pics when you finally get your scoot. Hopefully when MT comesdown we can convince him to ship down one of his bikes and we can all hit Cannons. Maybe even build a jump there?

Changstar,

"If you build it they will come"

jk
Jason Chang
OK is that a patch of grey I see on the top of Rockne? Is that old school shorts or is he just showing off that he still has leg muscles?


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Jeremy K.
I think it's just the pic. As for the shorts......If youre going old school why not sport your OPshorts right? blush.gif

jk
HA Y N
QUOTE (Jason Chang @ Apr 1 2008, 06:31 PM) *
Changstar #4 in the middle, leading a semi in Rockford, Illinois 1994. Also that year I went to the World Championships. I choked on the gate and got 5th, but to be 5th in the world is something I feel proud of. This is my old promo pic with my sponsors at that time.




Wow, I don't even get any photo credit for this......jeez! Thanks, Brah! hehehe

-Leasure



Jeremy K.
Here's one of Rockne Tang that you can take credit for..........

Inspired by that now famous Blockbuster shot! angel.png


bmx joe
Hey P-- That was cool how you add both pics to compare the one of Leary and the other of Chang!
One of my best friends/Bradda Robert Daclison drew me a picture of Tim Judge doing the Judge. He gave me the drawing at the airport when I was moving to California as a rememberence of all of us guys that rode together. Till this day I still have the drawing! That pic of Leary is how I figured out how to do a look back or Leary as it was called back then.

Good luck on selecting a bike to ride! Either it be 24" or 20" race or freestyle, but it sounds your heading to the freestyle side as a rider since you want to do some old school flatland and jumping stuff. Now bikes are more specific in areas as freestyle bikes or long or short on top tubes and shorten rear ends with different head tube and seat tube angles then race bikes have. The term freestyle is not used any more, now they are called Street/Trails frame and forks. I still have the habit of calling it freestyle frames and forks. Race bikes have different head/seat tube angles with a longer triangle/rear end to keep the back more grounded and from not causing you to loop out on jumps. Flatland frames are shorter frames with different combos of tube angles etc.

Thanks for sharing your story on your stolen bike. That sucks big time! I thought it might have got stolen back in Hawaii when I was still living there, so you know people always talk storys. I thought I might have heard something about yours. I didn't so sorry I could not help.

If you choose a street/trails frame I would go with Eastern Chrome Grim Reaper, this is my daily rider. With chrome it gives it that old school look. I got that bike at 25 1/2 lbs with 4 pegs and back and front brakes. I ride it all from dirt to skateparks and also some old school flatland stuff. I'm also thinking into getting into the racing part of Bmx as well. As for a race bike I would get FBM Camaro SS. I think you can get away with using it as a flatland bike as well for old school tricks and also the tube angles are like the old school bikes used to be. I just plain like the way they named it and my favorite is the blue. I ride just about everyday because I'm diabetic, so I have to find some kind of physical activity to keep me busy. I'll also be 40 years old this year so I'm trying to stay some what young. I'm actually a better rider now then I was back in the day. Back then we call it "Go fo broke" and not think of getting hurt and in the end always getting "All bus up!" Now a days you watch out that you don't get hurt. " Mo wise" Since you are so busy at this time you could make a list of stuff you want to get and start collecting stuff until you have the time to build it. Do some research and buy the good high end stuff. I'm sure all of us on this board are will to help you on suggesting stuff in the end you can make the final decision. I'm sure in time you can get those flat tables/pancakes back!

Jeremy/Rockne--Did you guys ride your bikes downtown like we did back in da day? Also stop by Magic Island? Man that makes me miss Hawaii! Any chance for some updated action shots? How about doing the old school gut lever trick? Looks like he changed his shorts. Not wearing the old school short shorts.

Any of you guys used to hit the dirt jumps in back of the Peal City Power Plant? There were a couple of big dirt jumps near the fence and the landing was some soft dirt. I remember trying to hit the tree branch that was about 8ft high from the top of the jump. I got super close but never hit it. Just want to confirm that it was about 8ft or so, I know I was about 7ft high from the bottom of my tires. I know my friend Robert has these pics of us back then, and I remember him taking pics of it. I'm sure he still has them at his parents house.

Quick question for you guys in Hawaii. I seen some footage of guys riding bikes in a skatepark near Diamond Head. Also seen it in the Christian Hosoi dvd that came out a few years back. Is this park bike friendly? Are bikes allowed? When ever I do go back to Hawaii for a vacation I would like hook up with some of you guys to ride and talk storys. Only thing is I would like to bring 2 bikes. Bike 1 would be my daily rider and bike 2 would be my Team Mongoose that I rode back then that I still have. I think my family will think I'm nuts! But they remember me always riding my bike back then, so I'll think they will understand.

You guys take care and keep the post going! Always look forward on checking out whats going on here!
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Jeremy K.
bmxjoe,

No "action" shots yet. I'm sure it'll take a while to get some good shots. Not to mention there's not much jumps and no track right now. It's also hard to find time to ride as and adult isn't it? Not like "small kid times" where we could just ride. We're slowly trying to get back into it. I'm still trying to get used to the frame - it seems so squirrely now. Of course it's probably me. We just mostly cruise around and talk trash about who is faster.....or was faster. We were planning on going to Magic Island last weekend but ran out of sunlight. I am actually planning on getting a helmet before I hit some trails and jumps up Newtown. I figure I gotta work and have a family that depends on me so I can't afford to get hurt. Isn't it funny.....Never wore a helmet as a kid except for races. Any cool helmets with a vintage vibe you know about? One that you can use for long periods of time?

jk
HA Y N
QUOTE (Jeremy K. @ Apr 9 2008, 09:17 PM) *
Here's one of Rockne Tang that you can take credit for..........

Inspired by that now famous Blockbuster shot! angel.png




Thanks, brah! That Blockbuster shot will live forever! Maybe that will be the new photo location, to see how many guys we can get to snap that pic!

PS (Porgot Sumting) My angle was a little more out on Magic Island!!

-Leasure
Jeremy K.
This one was from near the Ilikai. We ran out of sun before we could make it to Magic Island.

jk
Thumperpilot
Looks like a retake is in order. LOL!!! Sweet shots guys. I need to scan my stuff. I'm just busy with other BS.
Thumperpilot
QUOTE (HA Y N @ Apr 9 2008, 07:41 PM) *
Wow, I don't even get any photo credit for this......jeez! Thanks, Brah! hehehe

-Leasure



That shot was from practice. LOL!!! I raced the ABA Worlds on that very same track and placed second behind Barry Nilson. I lead the whole race until the last straight and got past by Barry. Good memories for sure!
kevlau
QUOTE (Thumperpilot @ Apr 10 2008, 05:34 PM) *
That shot was from practice. LOL!!! I raced the ABA Worlds on that very same track and placed second behind Barry Nilson. I lead the whole race until the last straight and got past by Barry. Good memories for sure!

chang, leading practice! must have been his 39/17 cruiser gearing! nah.
Thumperpilot
I think it was his 39/18.hehehehehehe......
HA Y N
What was even more funny about that race was Chang on the infield of the Rockford track with a t-shirt on that look liked he was sporting a set of female DD's, puffing on a cig!

Too funny!

PS (Porgot Sumtin) That photo was from a semi, Chang actually did very well there!

-Leasure
kevlau
QUOTE (HA Y N @ Apr 11 2008, 05:10 AM) *
What was even more funny about that race was Chang on the infield of the Rockford track with a t-shirt on that look liked he was sporting a set of female DD's, puffing on a cig!

Too funny!

PS (Porgot Sumtin) That photo was from a semi, Chang actually did very well there!

-Leasure

Back then,... chang was the only hawaiian with a mullet smokin cigs at the nationals!
Sugi
Anybody know who rides around Mililani with a blue 24"cruiser with #5 on his number plate?He looks to be 30yrs plus.Just saw him riding today.I wanted to know if it was anybody from BITD.
Jeremy K.
Sugi,

Saw the guy a couple times myself. Not sure who he is.

JK
bmx joe
QUOTE (Jeremy K. @ Apr 10 2008, 07:30 PM) *
bmxjoe,

No "action" shots yet. I'm sure it'll take a while to get some good shots. Not to mention there's not much jumps and no track right now. It's also hard to find time to ride as and adult isn't it? Not like "small kid times" where we could just ride. We're slowly trying to get back into it. I'm still trying to get used to the frame - it seems so squirrely now. Of course it's probably me. We just mostly cruise around and talk trash about who is faster.....or was faster. We were planning on going to Magic Island last weekend but ran out of sunlight. I am actually planning on getting a helmet before I hit some trails and jumps up Newtown. I figure I gotta work and have a family that depends on me so I can't afford to get hurt. Isn't it funny.....Never wore a helmet as a kid except for races. Any cool helmets with a vintage vibe you know about? One that you can use for long periods of time?

jk


Jeremy--Its funny I never wore gloves,pads or a helmet back then! No wonder I used to get so banged up, expecially your shins! I remember trying to double up my socks and used my basketball knee pads as a shin guards, but it always moved on me and the socks was not enough for those KKT, Suntour XC-2, or Shimano SX pedals. I still got battle scars from those pedals.

Now a days I use gloves, elbow pads, Fox combo knee and shin guards the ones you can use under your pants, ankle guards (Soccer ones) and Pro Tec Classic helmet the one with all foam padding.
I tried using old school Bell open face helmet with Haro Visor and Dyno full face but it gets real hot!
Good for the winter here in California, but super hot in the summer. I do ride with a few friends that use a full face, but its all up to you. I always ride with my safety equipment even when its riding around the neighborhood minus the helmet. Those things saved me many times! Let me know which helmet you end up getting!
Jeremy K.
BMXJoe,

I have been looking at the ProTec helmets. I used them in the 70's and 80's and really liked them. I wish they had the same old design though. The Protec Kayak helmet looks similar to the old school BMX one. I've been thinking of using one of those with a visor. Unless I can find an old school one on Ebay. I have seen them before but now that I need one I can't find them. I know what you are saying about the Bell helmets. It would be a little ruff using one all day.

JK
Jason Chang
Sorry guys that is the real deal photo 1994, I belive this is the year before the Buckle and Thumper battle. This is also the first year for the ABA worlds in Toledo,Ohio. But that shot is from Rockford nat. Barry was not there for that one but we did meet up that year in Seattle, we fought for the lead from lane 7 and 8 he got 4th and I got 5th. I tried to hold him to the outside but we let the inside lanes get in front of us. 39-18? Nah it was a 40, spin to win. I think you can still get the old style Pro-tec but now it does not have the button snaps for a visor. I think everybody just wears the skate style helmet for trail riding, and full face for racing. I wear a fullface for racing but still hate it. But a dentist bill would not be good so just got used to it. Remeber going to the outer islands to race. Almost like going to a national as far as planning, with hotel, plane fare, rental car and whooping on the locals. I think sometimes those Honolulu guys were not well liked. Anyone remember Dante?

Changstar
cdub
QUOTE (Jeremy K. @ Mar 1 2008, 08:37 PM) *
Talked to an old friend tonight.....None other than Rockne Tang....Held the no.1 plate in Hawaii for two years in a row and was sponsored by The Bike Shop/Mongoose. He still has his mongoose intact with the No.1 plate on it. He said it's still got the dirt on it from his last race. How cool is that! I'll try and get some photo's of him and his bike and post it.

JK



Hey Jeremy,

It's me Clarence. Wow, it's been a while. Till now I've just been admiring the old memories those photos brings back. Those were good times! Man, that Paiea has tons of photos. I have yet to track down another friend from school who was always at Triangles doing video. He put together some video stuff when we were in Intermediate (lots of Triangle Park stuff). Will let you guys know if I find him.

Regarding the Tangs could you have anyone of them email me at: clarence.waialeale@fhb.com. Those were the guys who really kept me into BMX and it was the best time of my life. Never forgot those days (well, with age I kinda forgot some). Would be good to keep in touch, maybe even track down the rest of the gang, Paiea, Guy Toriki, your brother Eric, Mark Gentry, Daniel Wong, Greg Aipa, Barry Nobriga, Greg Leong, Mark ?. I'm sure a lot of them will be hard to find.

Anyway, that post you had on the ride up that hill with your rescue gear on was hilarious. You da man!

Take it easy friend!
Jeremy K.
Clarence,

Whats up my Triangles brother! It's awesome having all they old guys surface here. I'll definately get your email address to Rockne. I am supposed to ride with him later today. Paiea does seem to have an endless supply of old photos dosen't he! Best of all they are all cool shots. I especially love the ones where you can see the background too. Brings back memories of where we used to hang out. The old BMX days were also the greates times of my life! Of course the wife gets pissed when I say that. But, it was a different era. No worries like work, mortgage, kids, bills etc. We just lived on our bikes and had fun. I remember spending many times with you and Rockne at Triangles. You had a Red FMF I think, Rockne had the white proline and I had a blue mongoose. We would hit that jump over and over and over and over.....Good Times!

I agree would be great to get everyone together. Eric still has a white Robinson that he bought from Rory! A true survivor bike. Keep posting old friend it is great to hear from you.

jk
perfectnut
Greetings BMXJoe-

Thanks for the informative post!


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Hey P-- One of my best friends/Bradda Robert Daclison drew me a picture of Tim Judge doing the Judge. He gave me the drawing at the airport when I was moving to California as a rememberence of all of us guys that rode together. Till this day I still have the drawing!


Now thats a name I had forgetten about -- Tim Judge.. remember his one-footer from the BMX Action mag? At least I believe it was shot for that spread.. nice one! Preserve that drawing, there is no other in the entire universe, such is the unique quality of that image!


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Good luck on selecting a bike to ride!


Appreciate your's and everyone elses posts on the bikes. Quite complicated really, I need to find something that will fit properly.. someday I will have the priviledge of visiting the master of all BMX bicycles, the man in the sky sporting a large white beard and a booming voice..

"Try and then buy thou this one, grasshopper P"..


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Thanks for sharing your story on your stolen bike. That sucks big time! I thought it might have got stolen back in Hawaii when I was still living there, so you know people always talk storys. I thought I might have heard something about yours. I didn't so sorry I could not help.


No worries, thanks for asking..

It was quite sad, actually.. as a man who has grown fairly old over the decades (yuk,yuk) it was a dreadful evil, but counting the years past that moment of absent-minded behavior, bad lock and all, it only serves to remind me of the luxury of health and the quiet riot the event produced only for my world.. **stares in slience at the sky**


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If you choose a street/trails frame I would go with Eastern Chrome Grim Reaper, this is my daily rider. With chrome it gives it that old school look. I got that bike at 25 1/2 lbs with 4 pegs and back and front brakes. I ride it all from dirt to skateparks and also some old school flatland stuff. I'm also thinking into getting into the racing part of Bmx as well. As for a race bike I would get FBM Camaro SS. I think you can get away with using it as a flatland bike as well for old school tricks and also the tube angles are like the old school bikes used to be. I just plain like the way they named it and my favorite is the blue. I ride just about everyday because I'm diabetic, so I have to find some kind of physical activity to keep me busy. I'll also be 40 years old this year so I'm trying to stay some what young. I'm actually a better rider now then I was back in the day. Back then we call it "Go fo broke" and not think of getting hurt and in the end always getting "All bus up!" Now a days you watch out that you don't get hurt. " Mo wise" Since you are so busy at this time you could make a list of stuff you want to get and start collecting stuff until you have the time to build it. Do some research and buy the good high end stuff. I'm sure all of us on this board are will to help you on suggesting stuff in the end you can make the final decision. I'm sure in time you can get those flat tables/pancakes back!


Much Aloha friend, this is very helpful indeed. You must rip bro, I'll never ride like I could back in the day! Turning 45 this year and inching closer to turning in my coffin as well. I hope that I don't maim myself either LOL, the impact would not be as much "fun" ...

The good news:

The good and goodness is the wholesome whole and all shall shine together with the good of it's parts.. this makes a happy marriage for my pending purchase of a new bike! I am already dreaming about jumping, I can visualize it as it materializes in the future that is not quite here yet.. just thinking of it as BMX celibacy, an accidental and unavoidable condition, soon remedied by two wheels and some dirt.. or at least concrete or asphalt..


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Any of you guys used to hit the dirt jumps in back of the Peal City Power Plant? There were a couple of big dirt jumps near the fence and the landing was some soft dirt. I remember trying to hit the tree branch that was about 8ft high from the top of the jump. I got super close but never hit it. Just want to confirm that it was about 8ft or so, I know I was about 7ft high from the bottom of my tires. I know my friend Robert has these pics of us back then, and I remember him taking pics of it. I'm sure he still has them at his parents house.


Hardcore! .. I remember, sort of, jumps back there **waves hand in general Pearl City direction**.. kind of lost as to exactly where though.. 7 or 8 feet is sailing and I miss that feeling!

Here is a shot that was taken in Pearl City, but I cannot finger the spot. Without much hint due to missing landscape visuals, maybe the area will never be unearthed. I think it was Flats, however it might not be.. me and my pal Alz Haimerz, one and the same.

P's tabletop "out there" in the world of the obscure:



The clouds appear a fraction overweight, probably because of the many pies..


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Quick question for you guys in Hawaii. I seen some footage of guys riding bikes in a skatepark near Diamond Head. Also seen it in the Christian Hosoi dvd that came out a few years back. Is this park bike friendly? Are bikes allowed?


Anyone know where this is, I can't place it.. I wunder

..


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You guys take care and keep the post going! Always look forward on checking out whats going on here!


Peace dude, keep on hammering!


-p


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perfectnut

Good day sir!

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It's me Clarence. Wow, it's been a while. Till now I've just been admiring the old memories those photos brings back. Those were good times! Man, that Paiea has tons of photos. I have yet to track down another friend from school who was always at Triangles doing video. He put together some video stuff when we were in Intermediate (lots of Triangle Park stuff). Will let you guys know if I find him.


It's me, the watchmaker.. I hope the videos can surface from the depths someday!


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Barry Nobriga


You must mean this guy. Here he is, valuing the environment even though no buffalo, herd of cattle, swarm of bees or alligators can be seen in this footage.



X-up in paradise, the effect is merely social. I'm sure the Pope sent his blessings that fine day.


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I'm sure a lot of them will be hard to find.


True. Barry used to work at Maharajah in Waikiki Trade Center a number of years ago. Bartending. At least the transcript of my memories tell me so. He also surfs, as I recall.

Greg Aipa, another one! Where is he now??

..

I might have mentioned the Pope earlier.. they say holy posturing is punishment by way of Oedipus complex, such is the commission by default of being institutionalized.. thankfully one can never be too sure of such advertising..

Besides imperfections abound in the belly of mankind, this is what taxes the BMXer, perhaps..


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-p


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perfectnut
QUOTE (Jeremy K. @ Apr 13 2008, 08:20 AM) *
.....Good Times!

jk



Straight off the Chic meat rack!

Cow-wah-bung-gah!!

Mark Miyashiro bailing off his Robinson while Jeffery Kang admires the move from afar..



Cannons Club action.

I guess showing up for afternoon tea would be a sin here. You know, dirty white gloves and all.


Cheers..


-p


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Jeremy K.
QUOTE (perfectnut @ Apr 14 2008, 09:37 PM) *


Wow........As Jeff Kang looks on...I can hear...."Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full"

jk
bmx joe
[quote name='perfectnut' date='Apr 14 2008, 09:07 PM' post='524438']
Much Aloha friend, this is very helpful indeed. You must rip bro, I'll never ride like I could back in the day! Turning 45 this year and inching closer to turning in my coffin as well. I hope that I don't maim myself either LOL, the impact would not be as much "fun" ...

The good news:

The good and goodness is the wholesome whole and all shall shine together with the good of it's parts.. this makes a happy marriage for my pending purchase of a new bike! I am already dreaming about jumping, I can visualize it as it materializes in the future that is not quite here yet.. just thinking of it as BMX celibacy, an accidental and unavoidable condition, soon remedied by two wheels and some dirt.. or at least concrete or asphalt..







P--

I too can say that I'll never ride like I could back in the day. Now a days I have to get warmed up have enough food and water before I ride. Those are some of the important things that I can think of right now, but I'm sure other things will come up as time goes on. A warm up or stretch is good so you don't damage those muscles or joints. Being young you could just go out and bust things out like we used to and bust ourselves at the same time. Good food for energy and water to keep you hydrated. Not Corn nuts, M&M's, nachos and Big Gulp from 7-11,AM PM or the local Asian store to keep you energized, not to mention that red punch we used to make and drink at home. I forgot the most famous brand one we used to drink back then but we always made it so sweet that at night you were a feast for the mosquitos! I guess you end up taking more care of yourself then your bike.
If you can hold up to a good aerobic work out then you are in good condition. If not a good exercise program is a must. It may seem like a lot of work at first , in the end you enjoy riding more and not getting hurt or injured. I limit my riding session 2 hours at most. On a good day 5-6hrs that is if I have the time and it is only casual riding. Do a run then stop to talk for a bit then do another and inbetween eat and drink something at times, but not to much. As time goes on you sway away from the work out part and end up riding more, because you are at a point were your body (lungs) can take the physical abuse from riding. Start slow by jumping curbs and riding up hills like if you are training to race. I remember seeing that in a bmx mag back then, so I would aways ride up hills. I used to ride up Mahoe St. or Paiwa St. in Waipahu because I used to live on the last street on the top.
Back then it used to seem so steep and high going back and forth up and down that hill. Now a days I think I can bomb that thing going backwards or rolling fakies all the way down! Maybe rolling on the front tire at times still going backwards.

P-- in the end take your time and it will come! if not there is always tomorrow to try again. Don't force anything!
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kevlau
paiea is just being modest. he rides around the island and up tantalus regularly on his road bike. i think he can still tabletop.
bmx joe
QUOTE (kevlau @ Apr 15 2008, 09:35 AM) *
paiea is just being modest. he rides around the island and up tantalus regularly on his road bike. i think he can still tabletop.


Hooo! Must be in good shape then huh?!! I guess he going bust out!
Jeremy K.
I know P CAN table! He's an animal that way.

BMXJoe...Thats some funny stuff!

7-11 was a must. Isn't it wild what kinda food we would fuel up on while riding? Like you said...M&M's, snickers, babe ruths, Taro Chips, Big Gulp Coke, Slurpee etc. We used to stop by Kiamuki Sundries alot. I remember the juice you are talking about...My mom always bought Exchange in the 70's.......Remember that or are you too young.....Maybe for you it was Malolo syrup? Another place we would hit up while riding was the 5 cent hot dog place on King street near The Bike Shop. Trying to survive away from home while riding all day....Good Times.....We can't forget when we would stop by someones house while riding and you would have like 15 riders ripping thru a bag of chips or cookies they brought out.

jk
bmx joe
jk-I think is was both on the syrup, I know that there was more then just one, but Malolo was the popular one, also we used to drink alot of Orange Tange. Can't forget the stuff we used to get off the Manapua and ice cream trucks! Pop Rocks, Strawberry taffy, Fried noodles in the wax paper bag with alot of soi sause. I remember getting hot dogs cheap somewhere, that might have been the same place. One of our scheduled stops was the AM PM under the bridge by Salt Lake. It was a nice shaded resting place going and coming back from town. I also remember the noodle places across from The Great Outdoors. Those Oreo and Chips Ahoy along with some kind of Lays chips were popular. Great Times!
Jason Chang
I remember the budget meal was plain rice with brown gravy on it from Zippy's, about 99 cents. Did you guys wash your bikes off at the board of water supply fountain or little pool thing at the bottom of the trail after a muddy Tantalus ride. We must have wrecked the filter system that thing after about 20 muddy bikes got washed off.

Changstar
Jeremy K.
Changstar,

Wow that's a good one. Like a rite of passage after your first Tantalus ride. Good Times!

jk
Jason Chang
I have to admit we were not the most hardcore Tantalus riders. The truly hardcore rode up to the white road. we how ever cheated and got a ride up in Barry Uyeno's granpa's big van. I think it was yellow and had the extra high roof that looked like a small boat was sitting up on top. Boy did we have to squeez to get all of us in there. 20-25 bikes and riders, can't leave anyone behind so we made it fit no matter how many we had. Good thing the seat belt laws were more lax then. I remember a down hill right hander hairpin that was always wet and was so steep that brakes did very little to slow you down. If 1 or 2 riders made it through without falling that was good. We would all stop after the turn to watch each rider give it a try and one after another thay would go down. Then probably slide for another 10 feet. We would cheer for each other and laugh like crazy at each crash. Those days were awesome. What I would give for one day back in my youth, no bills, no worrys about getting hurt, bike dailed and running smooth and every place we go the jumps are perfect. And 10 bucks in my pocket so I can eat good.

Changstar
Jeremy K.
BMX gave all of us great memories huh? Everyone crashes or crashed on the Tantalus trail. We especially liked the beginning of the trail where it was wider. We would ride that section several times when we were up there. Did you guys also hit the Makiki Trail or go down on the road?

Yup, no work, bills, stress, motgage, car payment...the days of riding bmx were pure. I'd go back in a heartbeat.

jk
bmx joe
QUOTE (Jason Chang @ Apr 16 2008, 06:27 AM) *
And 10 bucks in my pocket so I can eat good.

Changstar


Changstar-- Thats some good eating! I would get $5.00 a week for allowence. I remember when I rode from Waipahu to Waimanalo with back pack that had jacket, radio walkman, water thermos with that punch drink, peanut butter and jelly sandwich, M&M and $2.00 to my name. I would have made good time if I didn't get lost in Hawaii Kai for cutting threw some side streets then getting lost for about 1 1/2 hrs. Going down town on weekends was a budget of $2.50 to $3.00 dollars.
Jeremy K.
$5.00 a week! You rich _astard.

jk
Jason Chang
I know we would cross a street about half way down and start on another trail, might have been Makiki trail. The bottom of the second trail had a section named rocks and roots and then came out through the Hawaii Nature center. Then a little ways from there was the board of water supply, which had that mini pool in front and we would throw our bikes in and wash the mud off. Then we would come down hill on a road that linked up to Mccully street and almost could roll over the Mccully bridge right before Mccully bike. Yeah I made it by with $3 dollars back then, so having $10 would just mean I could eat and drink anything I want. Funny I never broke anything major on that trail, but one time I did crack the brake bridge on my 1982 GT, I guess all that heavy braking and bouncing around. Then I tried to do the rest of the trail with just my front brake. Yes, I crashed alot on that day.

Changstar
bmx joe
QUOTE (Jeremy K. @ Apr 16 2008, 10:57 PM) *
$5.00 a week! You rich _astard.

jk


huh!! thats a good one! Any of you guys know if Jon and Moki,Mickey ever rode up Tantalus?
When I rode and used to see these guys at the Great Out Doors I don't remember them mentioning riding up there. I remember riding with Moki and Jon and just hitting the local spots in Waipahu and Pearl City. I think we did down town and Ala Moana too, but I don't remember the details. I had a cousin that lived up at Tantalus Dr.

Changstar--Those brake bridges used to flex all the time. What brake pads you used back then?







kevlau
QUOTE (Jason Chang @ Apr 16 2008, 08:31 PM) *
I know we would cross a street about half way down and start on another trail, might have been Makiki trail. The bottom of the second trail had a section named rocks and roots and then came out through the Hawaii Nature center. Then a little ways from there was the board of water supply, which had that mini pool in front and we would throw our bikes in and wash the mud off. Then we would come down hill on a road that linked up to Mccully street and almost could roll over the Mccully bridge right before Mccully bike. Yeah I made it by with $3 dollars back then, so having $10 would just mean I could eat and drink anything I want. Funny I never broke anything major on that trail, but one time I did crack the brake bridge on my 1982 GT, I guess all that heavy braking and bouncing around. Then I tried to do the rest of the trail with just my front brake. Yes, I crashed alot on that day.

Changstar


most times we took the white road to the manoa cliff trail, but some times we took the puu ohia trail to the top. it crossed the road to the makiki valley trail, which ended with "roots and rocks" to the nature center, where we washed up at the bathroom, or just dunked our bikes in the pool at the board of water supply. later on, in the mtb days, we took top downhill pros down "roots and rocks" and they were impressed how rough it was, even with their 6" works suspension!

kl
Jeremy K.
That pretty much summed up the Makiki trail...."Roots and Rocks".

Anyone used to push their bikes up Diamond Head Crater trail and ride down that? It's impossible now with the tourist traffic. But, in the 70's we would hit it every now and then. I wouldn't mind hitting Tantalus and DH one more time. Of course I have to get some skills back first. I rode at the HK track today. Holy Cow! I am not as comfortable as I thought I would be. I am suffering from some disorders now that has caught up with me called A.G.E. and F.E.A. R. blush.gif

jk
Jason Chang
I don't remember what brake pads I had, may have been Kool stops round with fins, and I still have a pair in blue. I am almost certain that the brakes were MX 1000, as that was the standard then. As for John, Moki, and Miki on Tantalus. I am sure they have been there but I have never had the pleasure of being in a group with them, Sano however was a regular riding buddy. So how is Hawaii Kai? The only place kinda cool to ride that I have been hearing about is the Pearl City skate park. I guess they are not so strict on the "NO BIKES THING" but Mililani is lame as they will call the police on you. Your skills are probably a little better than you think. I notice a mental block of doing things that is within my reach. There was a med double at Wheeler on the first straight that took me days to do, or try. I had done other jumps close in size but for some reason this one made me decide to roll at the last minute every time I tried. Finaly I just went for it, made it OK and then felt dumb about why it took me so long. But the key is to have a good idea where your skills are at and just push it a little. As we age that "go for it thinking" gets lost. But again have a true idea where you stand, I have seen to many guys over their head and get hurt, or like me underachieve. Anyone been to Newtown lately? Maybe we can all get together for a ride sometime, it has been about 2 years since I threw a leg over 2 wheels but it would be just as much fun to see old friends and maybe meet some new ones. Hopefully the place we chose is good enough that we don't sit around bummed that it is no fun to ride.
Jeremy K.
Changstar,

The HK track is pretty cool. We went there this evening. Just got back. I'm slowly getting more comfortable. Some pretty nasty landings between Rockne and I. The finesse is not there anymore. But, I love riding there. Feels great to be on dirt again and I am sure I will get more comfortable riding. Rockne, seems alot more comfortable than I am. So, I'll be spending alot of time there just to try and get some air. I'll post some pics when I can actually get air higher than an ants [please review the site FAQs]. Anytime you guys ride let me know. I'll try and make it.

jk
Jason Chang
So tell us a little more about HK. Is there alot of jumps? Are they doubles or singles to flat landing? Do you hit them one at a time or can you ride through many sets like a track? I know some of the Mililani guys have been talking about getting together, so maybe soon. I only have a full face race helmet so I hope I dont look to dorky. Smooth would be a goal for me, I never was the smooth guy.I was the power guy that plowed through stuff and hoped to stay in front. Sano was the smooth one, so was KL. I remember Rockne being smooth, my Dad would say Rockne looked like he was not trying he was so smooth, no wild arms and legs trying to go fast.

Changstar
Jeremy K.
Wild arms and legs......That was my style!

The HK track is only wide enough for one rider at a time. It starts down hill and you hit four jumps in a row. Then you hit a left hand berm which is about 2 ft high. Then a nice steep jump that leads to some whoops....I'm not sure what its called nowdays. Another berm and another straight with some more whoops. Pretty cool place.

We talked to one of the Mountain bikers there today. Real cool guy. Told us that the state ok'd the land for mtb and bmx. The mtbers built and maintain the track.

You won't look goofy with your helmet. Rockne rode with his old BW leathers today. Now that is goofy! blush.gif

jk
OGmotocrosser
QUOTE (Jeremy K. @ Mar 23 2008, 10:19 AM) *
Here's one of Safari Cycle riders Daryl Saiki and Dale Farias taken at Hawaii Racewaay Park in the late 70's. The guy in the middle is from REDLINE. Photo from JT of Safari Cycles.

ANYONE KNOW WHO THE GUY IN THE MIDDLE IS?


Man in the middle is none other than David Clinton! What's up everybody!_____ Rory rolleyes.gif
perfectnut
Dear BMXJoe-

I just made a really nice reply to your most informative and thoughtful post and when I kindly clicked on ADD REPLY, a naughty message appeared saying I cannot post since I am not logged in.

So I proceeded to LOGIN and my carefully manicured post, in it's entirety, is gone.

Sound the alarms. Kick a giant stone to prove that it will not kick me back.

Pledge Alligence to the flag. Yeah, the PATRIOTIC RED FLAG of warning to those unawares!

Take a giant **bleeping** pill because this happened and I am galled at the moment.



Sickened. Reduced to tears, because I don't have, own or invent my time nor possess the inclination to re-create the darn thing all over again.

I have been slapped in the face with the force of Gozilla's mega-tail.

My life has been auctioned away, my vitality reduced to a common thread of hair lying on my POST-modern bathroom floor, lifeless, blossoming like a teenage wet dream, filled with potential, but lacking the sustinance of life and my post.

Let me lick the dirt from the surface of mother earth, maybe I'll garner some mercy.

LICK-LICK, swallow an earthworm with loads of protein. That's me alright, some things never change... go ahead Reid Kawamae, laugh away, you started it!



What a BANANA of a non-move I made by neglecting to LOGIN before constructing a post, assembling a message with the acumen of an architect, only to have my house blown down, slienced like a banana waiting to be bit.



BITE ME, BITE ME, excite me, disgust me!



Thanks, looks like Barry Nobriga's got my back, and much more!

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Jeremy K.
Rory,

Glad to see you found your way to the Vintage BMX site! Post some pics if you can. We love pics and collectively can't keep up sith p's collection of cool shots. I even know where one of your old Robinsons is stashed away angel.png .

P,

Sorry you lost your post....Ctrl C my friend Ctrl C!


Rockne,

Stop lurking in the shadows and say something. This isn't a night clup for crying out loud.....Sounds like standaroundisontheforumidis!

jk
perfectnut
QUOTE (bmx joe @ Apr 15 2008, 08:56 AM) *
Fried noodles in the wax paper bag with alot of soi sause. Great Times!



Oh no. I remember those clearly now LOL

There was this little store behind King street where the current McCully Bike is now situated, but now backside of that library and McDonalds. The little shop sold shaved ice and wax bags of fried noodles, boy what a fine memory you have!

Our BMX gang would congregate at the McDonalds on Keeamoku St, by the Meadow Gold milk manufacturing center? We were such punks, throwing pickles from the hamburgers onto the large window pane glass windows and racing to see who's pickle dripped the fastest. Terrible kids we were!

Of course, the 7-11s were popular too. Raymond Motosue had the worst luck of any BMXer known to grace the planet earth, at least that is my opinion.

We know where "opinions" can rest:



I left out the "humble" part because I am not programmed to understand or assign that term. After all, I can only offer my objectively skewed truth based on my biased value system. That does not say much, really.

Going on, I remember once Raymond bought a bag of Funyuns from the 7-11 on Waialae Ave and so he opens the bag and the TOP ring is rotten to the core. Seriously. How does a brand new bag of Funyuns contain a rotten onion ring??

OK, someone could say "that is an anomoly", some kind of alien intersection with chaos.

Next on the bad luck menu, Raymond bought a Gatorage once.. recall those glass bottles? When you open the seal, it pops to show the pressure has not been released. Well, his Gatorade had a rotten SEED in the bottom of the bottle! It really is hard to forget this kind of stuff LOL.

My neighbor Ross Sugiwaka and I used to get our ab exercises from laughing at these seemingly bad luck turn of events. We coined the term "chuck luck" in reference to Raymond. Take a guess, that was the Charlie Brown thing where he would charge to kick the football and Lucy would yank the ball away at the last minute.

There are more stories, but I must run. DO NOT get me wrong, I love Raymond to death.

But this is too funny. Served up my brother LOL..

In honor of CHUCK LUCK, here is Raymond sailing high in the sky, shot in Pearl City:



Hey Whale, if you're out there in cyber-somewhere, this saying is for you:

"YEAH, THAT IS RIGHT, I GETTUM"

** think the trading of the combs **

LOL

Hero Worship, that's the ticket..


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bmx joe
QUOTE (perfectnut @ Apr 19 2008, 01:06 AM) *
Dear BMXJoe-

I just made a really nice reply to your most informative and thoughtful post and when I kindly clicked on ADD REPLY, a naughty message appeared saying I cannot post since I am not logged in.

So I proceeded to LOGIN and my carefully manicured post, in it's entirety, is gone.

Sound the alarms. Kick a giant stone to prove that it will not kick me back.

Pledge Alligence to the flag. Yeah, the PATRIOTIC RED FLAG of warning to those unawares!

Take a giant **bleeping** pill because this happened and I am galled at the moment.




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P--- It happens to me many times. So before I proceed to the next area I end up copying post just in case I lose it, or I end up pushing the wrong button. That way if anything happens I just paste it back on. When you have to restart the whole thing you lost its hard to duplicate what you have written. Sorry that happened.





QUOTE (perfectnut @ Apr 19 2008, 02:55 AM) *
Oh no. I remember those clearly now LOL

There was this little store behind King street where the current McCully Bike is now situated, but now backside of that library and McDonalds. The little shop sold shaved ice and wax bags of fried noodles, boy what a fine memory you have!

Our BMX gang would congregate at the McDonalds on Keeamoku St, by the Meadow Gold milk manufacturing center? We were such punks, throwing pickles from the hamburgers onto the large window pane glass windows and racing to see who's pickle dripped the fastest. Terrible kids we were!

Of course, the 7-11s were popular too. Raymond Motosue had the worst luck of any BMXer known to grace the planet earth, at least that is my opinion.

We know where "opinions" can rest:



P--those were great times with great friends! Its hard to forget, but in the end I just forget about the details.Those local hang outs were cool! I bet the workers there always said "Here comes those bike riders again" Expecially those old asian market ones that used to have the old people working there in a bad mood. There were a few in Waipahu that we used to storm.

Its great talking about the old days! We all shared a common interest, that is living in that era riding bikes and hanging with friends that were so close as to call them brothers. Some of us never met, some of us some what crossed paths, and some kept in some what touch through out the years. Another thing was we kind of knew someone that knew another person from back in those days. I'm glad to have made new friends on here and that what makes me happy too! If you guys can get together to ride or hang out for awhile I'm sure that will be a new but old experience. Tommorow I'm going to a Bmx gathering that started last month. This time I tried to get more involved with the second one that is happening tomorrow. Its more of a old school bmx gathering with bring an old bike or bikes, parts to sell or swap or trade and bbq and of course your stories. But then again we open it to all ages and give the youngster the one on one on the Bmx roots. All of us are gearing up for the Roseville race and show so in the meantime before that we are trying to get a good following.
So for we got guys who used to race in all levels but since have retired, but would like to do some riding again. And you got your local riders that were into the freestyle scene. This time around we got some Pro freestylers showing up too. So if you guys can do the same they will come! And it will be a great experience I'm sure. Just like on this forum, more are coming aboard!

Rory great to see you here! Pass the word!
I'll let you guys know on how things went.
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