rust808
you in for a ride sat afternoon around 3:00?
BU

Yup, got something new for my Torker, it's sweet.

Kinda thinking of racing, putting together my race face.

racing?

BU

Found this on BMXHawaii.


Moki and Miki Fernandez will be back to Race BMX at The Sandbox BMX. Moki and Miki Fernandez will return to BMX when the Sandbox BMX track opens. Moki and Miki have been riding but not really training yet but look forward to racing again.
The Team will be riding Crupi race bikes. The team will consist of 4 riders, 2 in the 20" class and 2 in the 24" class. So all you old skoolers look out the Fernandez Brothers are back. You think you can Hang?

By TG

Awesome that the boys are riding again and I look forward to being on the gate with everyone. But, TG cracks me up! You can't talk smack for someone else.

jk

jk

who's TG?

BU

He is terry gomez aka the bird brain

Anyone who knows Moki would know how soft spoken and humble he is. I hope they do get hooked up, as I think if Moki can just worry about riding and not about setting up his bike. He will be a FORCE. I have seen Moki adjust to many different bike set ups and always fast, just think how he would be if his bike were how he wants it, not just what was available to him. The OM class grows, and the secret riding begins? The Rock must be getting realy fast since we have not heard from him. How about a ride next wekend? Time to dust off the Formula, and I see many of you that have bikes I would love to take a spin on.

Changstar

is the track ready.

No track yet, but my guess being that we are working with the state is mid to late summer.

Changstar

How cool is this?

... rust, man that is crazy little LOL .. where do you get this stuff from ??

JK- no hander craziness, jezzuz, nice form

DA KINE BIG TIME!

.. i finally bought some new Vans shoes last week, breakin em in and riding on those platform pedals, finally no slippage !

thanks to Dennis at Da Bike Fack and that guy in the skate department, they pointed me at the right spot, Blue Surf Hawaii inside Ala Moana, deep in the heart of the center.. great selection, bad stocked shoe sizes.. i got my 3rd choice from the meat rack..

Cookin wit gas holmes!


too cool ...



-p



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Rust,

Your cell phone is HUGE!

P,

Vans has a outlet store in Waikele if you are ever in the area. Get some knee/shin pads too. They will pay for themselves on the first slipped pedal. No more ouchee!

Check these badboys out. Sure hope there's gonna be a race track or Rust and I are buying some stuff for nothing.



Changstar,

When you planning on riding. Hopefully we can all get together soon?

jk

So how do those Vans compare to the Shimano shoes? I like both but the Shimano's seem to have a stiffer sole, so more power transfer. I need all I can get since I am probably half as strong as I used to be.

Changstar

I haven't tried the Vans yet. Freaks me out jumping clipped in. Obviously a fear I'll have to overcome. If the track becomes a reality I'll force myself to get over it. I think we all lost power or spin over the years. Well except for maybe Russell H.

jk

I would wait a while to clip in. Get totaly comfortable with all aspects of riding first, like gates, jumping, speed jumping, manualing on flats. Cause all of this will be much harder to learn while worrying about your feet. That way all the basic riding is under controll and all you have to adjust to is the clips, since the rest will be learned and practiced already. I know I will be on flats for a long time more, at least till I can rid myself of most of the squirlyness. Which maybe never ha ha ha.

Changstar

Changstar,

Totally agree with what you said. Well except from you being squirrely. I have been practicing manualing for about year now. I do it everyday for about an hour when I am at work. I still don't have it down. I can't imagine manualing clipped in. Jumping clipped seems like it would be easier than manualing. Man, so much to learn now. I think the only guy that will be clipped in the beginning is RH. Nothing a little tire rubbing wont fix. Just kidding Russel!

jk

I was still racing a lot when clips first started to come in. The big rivalry started and well we all know now that clips proved to be faster and became the norm. However new ways for flat pedal riders to try and even out the advantage came to be. It is all about knowing the weaknesses of clips and taking advantage of them. Many times those that are clipped in don't know the down side, for every plus there is a minus. Since most of the die hard flat riders were older, and the clipped in riders were younger, this brought in the Old age and treachery VS youth and skill. Add in a little skill to the treachery and things get very interesting. Of course if need be I will clip in. BWAHAHAHA.

Changstar

Gonna try this stem today, Brickhouse. I think 26mm?


I know, blue don't match.

Those are awesome stems, and are perfect for those long frames. I tried to get one way back but they were hard to find. So I got a "Big Cheese stem" which is 33mm reach. Big Cheese stem and a frame that was 21.5 TT worked very well. But for some reason a 20.5 TT and a 50mm reach stem felt better even though the total reach was very close. I think it has to do with where the headtube is, since a longer frame will put the headtube out further, even though the short stem put the bars further back. Or maybe I am just too picky on how my bike feels. Both set ups felt good, but one was just more gooder.

Changstar

Nice stem! Must make pulling up the front end easier. Looks like you are getting a better feel on dialing in your bikes. Don't forget tomorrow is Mothers Day guys. Gotta keep the wifey happy.

jk

...one was just more gooder.

Changstar
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Ah, your language is familiar to I. Me like cookies. It's the bestest.

The stem felt great at HK's. BU and me went there this afternoon. I mostly stay still, no shoes, no guts. BU was breaking in his ride.

Worm just left my house. Uhhh, need sleep...

not vintage, but this S&M randy brown feels cherry!!! way better than my mirraco...

SWEET! I have been thinking of building a 20" trails bike too. Tired of waiting for the track already. Wouldn't mind giving that bike a try BU. Did you get it from BFac or online? Give us the breakdown!

jk

S&M randy brown frame 20.5 TT
S&M pitchfork w/ 990
S&M slam bars
S&M red neck, love the shield print stuff
S&M slim seat
S&M tuff man sprocket 25T
175 macneil cranks
crupi pedals
thomson seat post
primo hubs, SS spokes, primo 7000 rims, 9T
demolition rear brake
dia tech box front brake

dennis and duane at bikefac hooked me up with most of the parts... ordered some small stuff online... when will you be going to HK? bike rides terrific... went there last sat and bike jumps pretty good, only the rider needs to get back in shape... anytime you can give it a spin jk...

BU

Cool setup! Hows that gearing feel? "I like try ride your bike!" When are you guys going to HK again?

Notice the new sign at HK?



jk

seen it on sat and met lawrence... 25-9 is 2.78 and 44-16 is 2.75, so it's almost like a 44-16... maybe tomorrow afternoon around 4pm.

Great lookin ride Bone..

been out of the loop, super work crazy.. next, i am out of town for a week, till the 25th

going here:




hey guys, remember the Vans?

They look like this:



and




pretty cool, nice and grippy..

check ya'all later, after the convention



-p


...

Sign is still graffiti-free.


Had fun today w/ BU at HK's. I can feel "it" coming back. (very slowly) No pics, yet. Still need practice.

right on P now you got the right shoes... let's go for a ride when you come back...

BU

was a good 2 hour ride today and like rust said it's comin back slowly...

BU

Sorry I couldn't make it guys. Thanks for the call though! Looking forward to us "old dudes" riding together. I went out today. Here's my "dead sailor":



Right before the ouchee.



jk

Thinking about how fun it was yesterday, if I wear gloves and knee pads, I might feel more brave. Dagnabit, I'm buying some gloves this weekend.

Rust,

Knee pads will pay for themselves once you wreck or slip pedal. I have the 661's. The only complaint is that they slide down your knee as you are sliding face first during a wreck. Our dog chewed the s_it out of one of them so I'm thinking of getting new ones from THE. They have some pretty cool stuff on their site.

jk

good idea jk and rust, i'll be bustin out my dirt bike knee pads and gloves too... maybe i'll use my troy lee MB carbon helmet also...

BU

Wow that S&M looks killer!!! Whats up with that fat back tire? That will make your gearing one tooth harder, so you really have like a 45/16, plus the 175 cranks makes it just a little bit more hard. Compared to a traditional 44/16 with 180mm cranks and a skinny back tire. So what was your set up BITD when you were on a Thruster, or what ever you had just before you started riding for Jim? That's when you started winning the X class( you had Haro race pants), I think you were about 14. That's when me and Sano started to really watch you, cause you were getting faaast. I just remember it was a chrome frame. For pads, have you guys checked out Lizard skins? I like them because they are less bulky and feels more like you don't have pads on. For sure at least wear gloves. I'll bet all of you are better than you think, fear will make you hold back on things you actually can do already.

Changstar

Fear is definately a factor when you are older!

jk

that sure is TRUE...

had thruster tri powers, vanishing point, and i don't know the name of the regular one. 175 cranks with either 42/16 or 43/16. before i could spin the crap out of that gearing, but now the legs seem to get tired alot faster. i used to have mostly CW bars. thruster forks and bottema forks. haro was the hot ticket back then. yeah, the fat tire 20X2.2 to me seems better for street riding, but for racing probably go with a smaller rear and maybe a smaller front.

OK, so I'm still changing stuff on the Skyway. Got takagi cranks in blue, where so hard to find this color. Rode it around the block, felt great. I think I can bunnyhop onto a small car with this bike, lol. I think I'm gonna try blue tires with the white z rims next. I need to build another old school bike.


Oh yeah, a pic with the graphites.

Mike Whaley Hope you find this. BMX VintageBMX.com All Things Hawaiian

Mike Whaley's Robinson. Don't know any info but it looks nice and clean.

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sn...6_6052932_n.jpg

Who's riding this weekend? I'm up for some action. If not I'll just work on this:

I think I'll have time in the afternoon for a ride. give you a buzz later...

BU

Rode my 20" today. Its not really finished but I wanted to give it a spin at HK. Felt really uncomfortable going back to 20'' after riding 24" for a while. I gotta thank a few guys for helping me get this bike done......Gary at Johnny Chopper for building the frame and hooking me up with a free fork. Mongoose drummer for helping me get the frame and fork nickle plated and the flight cranks rechromed. And Waza for hooking me up with some of his new Team Jag decals.







jk

Mike Whaley's son was one of the top racers at the old Wheeler track. Justin was a top dog from about 9 years old til the track closed. He won many local titles as well as some good finish's in the mainland. He still rides today, I think he is about 14 or so on a yellow Dino Jr cruiser with skinny wheels. He does hit up HK from time to time as well as other hot spots. I even see Tyson once in a while on a MTB, he can manual awesome for being on a MTB. Tyson would come out to watch Justin and help with technique. After all these years it was awesome to see Tysom manual our rhythm section 3 or 4 jumps in a row. I am sure they both could show up to ride with us and maybe we can talk Mike into getting on a bike too.

Changstar

Jag looks killer, did you have brake bosses welded on? How about a rundown of the parts. How much is it still old school and how much is improved modern stuff?

Changstar

Wow! That looks amazing JK! I love the outdoor natural pics and the light sprinkling of the sweet red dirt! Very Moto!

That last pic is so inspiring... I want to ride with you one day!

Hopefully one day you will be in the islands and we can hit some dirt Pete! Thank you for all your help and patience with the chrome and nickle.

Jason,

I retired the original frame and had this one built from scratch. Modern geometry, long top tube, 1 1/8 headset, and canti brake bosses. Johnny Chopper built the frame for me. He even hooked me up with a 1 1/8" mongoose/jag style fork built from scratch.

Here's the breakdown:

Johnny Chopper Jag Tribute frame and fork
American bottom bracket
1 1/8" headtube
canti mounts
nickle plated thanks to Pete! aka mongoosedrummer
Slam Bars
Repro Mongoose grips
Pro Neck from retro bmx
Gold Tektro brakes
Repro Jag BMX pads
Gold Wellgo MG1 Pedals
Rechromed single pinch 175 flight cranks
Old School Bubble Font 40T front sprocket
Gold Snafu seatpost
Retro BMX seat
Repro Team Jag decal set from Waza
Gold Cane Creek headset

Rims aren't done yet. Right now its running on a front Araya 7C with stainless spokes and Shimano DX hub. Front tire is a 1.95 Maxxis Holy Roller. Rear wheel is a Sun BFR with DK hub and 15T ACS Claw. Rear tire is a IRC Siren.

I have a gold anno set of JP high flange hubs. Just waiting on some hoops. Looks like Odyssey might make their gold Hazard Lites available to the public soon so I am holding out for those.

jk

JK,

Man, the JAG is dope!