come on then sander post the names or email addresses of the people that threatened you. the me dutch thing,,, well i only repeat what you have used many many times here and elsewhere.
dont you think its a bit late for being sorry if someone gets/is getting ripped off over fake aerospeeds, between biagio and yourself i think you need look no further for people to blame. sander your a drama queen seeking people to feel sorry for you.
graeme
Dr.Frankenripper I do not take drugs.
Dr.Frankenripper I do not take drugs.
Sorry about that saying that twice. It was not my intention.
come on then sander, post the differences with the cranks here, why do you need to do it later, you know what they are....... tell us all now
graeme
graeme
Graeme,
I think it is not too late, in fact I think it is time...
I do NOT look for people to blame. Damn it, people want the truth and it seems to be that there is a LOT of things which are not true. I will go on by saying stop it. So stop it. We or at least I need to proceed and to go on a search in the following week.
I think it is not too late, in fact I think it is time...
I do NOT look for people to blame. Damn it, people want the truth and it seems to be that there is a LOT of things which are not true. I will go on by saying stop it. So stop it. We or at least I need to proceed and to go on a search in the following week.
"come on then sander, post the differences with the cranks here, why do you need to do it later, you know what they are....... tell us all now
graeme"
I would like to do it good and am gonna ask within 1 hour whether Rick, Hal and/or Bill would like to help. Help me. Help us.
Please Graeme, respect that. Ok? Could you do that? It's gonna be a lot work for me. You see, I do not have 24hrs online acces. I even don't have a personal computer! So please give me some time.
graeme"
I would like to do it good and am gonna ask within 1 hour whether Rick, Hal and/or Bill would like to help. Help me. Help us.
Please Graeme, respect that. Ok? Could you do that? It's gonna be a lot work for me. You see, I do not have 24hrs online acces. I even don't have a personal computer! So please give me some time.
a search,,, a search for what?? post the information that you know. like you say its time. instead of posting useless stuff here post the information that people want/ and are asking for.
and while your posting, please feel free to post the names and email addys of the people that threatened your life
graeme
and while your posting, please feel free to post the names and email addys of the people that threatened your life
graeme
AAAAAAAARGGHHH!!!!! So... oeps sorry... I want to make a new topic. I do NOT have the materials/info WITH ME!! UNDERSTAND THAT! I CAN'T HELP NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sander you have access here at the moment, use it. why do you need bill hal or rick. post the differences in the cranks here and now.
to anyone reading this who thinks i may be being harsh with sander.. then i apologise (to you not sander). i have seen sander do this kinda crap so many times.... teasing with the promise of information. he has the information and should post it now. if he wants to do some kind of authorative guide then that can be done later, but right now he needs to post all the info he can on these cranks
graeme
to anyone reading this who thinks i may be being harsh with sander.. then i apologise (to you not sander). i have seen sander do this kinda crap so many times.... teasing with the promise of information. he has the information and should post it now. if he wants to do some kind of authorative guide then that can be done later, but right now he needs to post all the info he can on these cranks
graeme
Let's make this easy to understand for Sander and all the rest:
- Sander, describe in detail the differences in reproduction Aerospeeds?
- Show us pictures of the differences.
- Sander, did you reproduce Aerospeeds? If not, who did?
When, and only when, Sander can answer all 3 questions with detail should we tolerate him. If he wants to play dumb, ban him again. If Sander loves the community and the hobby as much as he states, he shouldn't have a problem speaking the truth.
Sander, we want 3 answers from you. We're not going to wait weeks for pictures, we are not going to keep asking; it's either yes or no.
Rick, do you have the "ban" button ready for pressing?
- Sander, describe in detail the differences in reproduction Aerospeeds?
- Show us pictures of the differences.
- Sander, did you reproduce Aerospeeds? If not, who did?
When, and only when, Sander can answer all 3 questions with detail should we tolerate him. If he wants to play dumb, ban him again. If Sander loves the community and the hobby as much as he states, he shouldn't have a problem speaking the truth.
Sander, we want 3 answers from you. We're not going to wait weeks for pictures, we are not going to keep asking; it's either yes or no.
Rick, do you have the "ban" button ready for pressing?
james you said it so much better than i did...lol
graeme
graeme
- Sander, describe in detail the differences in reproduction Aerospeeds? YES!
- Show us pictures of the differences. YES WHERE I CAN!
- Sander, did you reproduce Aerospeeds? NO!
- If not, who did? TO BE HONEST, I have no idea. PLEASE do accept this. My cranks (originals duhhh...) were used as a model.
- Show us pictures of the differences. YES WHERE I CAN!
- Sander, did you reproduce Aerospeeds? NO!
- If not, who did? TO BE HONEST, I have no idea. PLEASE do accept this. My cranks (originals duhhh...) were used as a model.
Please accept this. For now.
GREAME, I really think you must apologize.
Can't you see it? I-WANT-TO-HELP!
Can't you see it? I-WANT-TO-HELP!
GREAME, I really think you must apologize.
Can't you see it? I-WANT-TO-HELP!
Can't you see it? I-WANT-TO-HELP!
quote:so how did this mystery person get the cranks of you, did you address them to :
- If not, who did? TO BE HONEST, I have no idea. PLEASE do accept this. My cranks (originals duhhh...) were used as a model.
mystery person
mystery road
reprosville
earth
sander if your cranks where used as a model for the repros then you know who you sent them to, your full of ****
graeme
[ September 04, 2006, 02:10 PM: Message edited by: graeme ]
Again twice. I apologize. Every time I get message "wait 20 seconds..."
I have contacted the owners/moderators of this website to help me with the guide.
I have contacted the owners/moderators of this website to help me with the guide.
lmao... an apology.
yeah right sander
graeme
yeah right sander
graeme
quote:NO!!!!
Please accept this. For now
Not good enough!!! You did not answer the question. Describe the differences??
If your original cranks were used as a model, who asked you for the models?
For now, you're still choosing not to be honest!
[ September 04, 2006, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: twintoptuber ]
"....your full of ****"
again, no comment.
again, no comment.
DAMN IT NOT NOW!!!!! Szjiet. I want to do it properly!
plead the fifth sander...lol
graeme
graeme
I dont know why you guys keep amusing this guy...he is like a guy dangling a carrot in front of a horse...and you all keep falling for it. He is a pain in the arse and will get banned for it again im sure...
per Bills recent comments in another thread stickied at the top of this forum - he is in nooooo mood for this stuff again... careful guys....careful...
[ September 04, 2006, 02:16 PM: Message edited by: djbdb ]
per Bills recent comments in another thread stickied at the top of this forum - he is in nooooo mood for this stuff again... careful guys....careful...
[ September 04, 2006, 02:16 PM: Message edited by: djbdb ]
hey djbdb, he has no carrot infront of me...lol. i dont believe that sander has any intention of being honest here. like i have said before, i have seen him pull this kinda thing so many times. i just want others to see this in him also
graeme
graeme
Listen up you guys. And... some how I understand it is now (and I really mean now) not able(!) for me to go in a debate with you too Greame and twintoptuber. I want to do it properly. And I do not want to rush and make mistakes. DON'T PUSH IT! I respect your and where possible stay calm and reply on your comments. Please do that with me aswell. I simply can't do it NOW.
LOL Graeme,
Sander, you are wasting time again. You can write the differences in this thread and then create a special post later on with pics. If you choose not to answer, you allow all the others the harm of getting hurt. Why would you hurt people you want to meet at Rockford?
Well?
Sander, you are wasting time again. You can write the differences in this thread and then create a special post later on with pics. If you choose not to answer, you allow all the others the harm of getting hurt. Why would you hurt people you want to meet at Rockford?
Well?
Sander, describe in detail the differences in reproduction Aerospeeds? YES!
- Show us pictures of the differences. YES WHERE I CAN!
- Sander, did you reproduce Aerospeeds? NO!
- If not, who did? TO BE HONEST, I have no idea. PLEASE do accept this. My cranks (originals duhhh...) were used as a model. THE CRANKS WERE MADE BY SOMEONE AT/OR THROUGH BRIDGESTONE AND DO NOT THE NAME OF THE ACTUAL GUY AT THAT FACTORY WHO MADE THE CRANKS!
- Show us pictures of the differences. YES WHERE I CAN!
- Sander, did you reproduce Aerospeeds? NO!
- If not, who did? TO BE HONEST, I have no idea. PLEASE do accept this. My cranks (originals duhhh...) were used as a model. THE CRANKS WERE MADE BY SOMEONE AT/OR THROUGH BRIDGESTONE AND DO NOT THE NAME OF THE ACTUAL GUY AT THAT FACTORY WHO MADE THE CRANKS!
Sander,
Again, you decided not to be honest and describe the details.
You don't deserve anyone's respect and best for everyone that you never attend a Rockford. I don't have any interest in meeting you and I'm sure most share the same feelings. You're a waste of time, bye bye.
Again, you decided not to be honest and describe the details.
You don't deserve anyone's respect and best for everyone that you never attend a Rockford. I don't have any interest in meeting you and I'm sure most share the same feelings. You're a waste of time, bye bye.
ok...I'll bite...why would you ALLOW someone to make copies using your cranks?
DJ,
Please don't feed the troll, just let him disappear again.
Please don't feed the troll, just let him disappear again.
someone you dont know the name of, to make your cranks.......
my bull crap detector is going off the chart here
graeme
my bull crap detector is going off the chart here
graeme
I don't accept that twintoptuber. I just don't.
"ok...I'll bite...why would you ALLOW someone to make copies using your cranks?" For his own Hutch. And yes, I am that kind of a person who send something just like that even without knowing whether they will be returned to me.
No reply yet from the board.
"ok...I'll bite...why would you ALLOW someone to make copies using your cranks?" For his own Hutch. And yes, I am that kind of a person who send something just like that even without knowing whether they will be returned to me.
No reply yet from the board.
"someone you dont know the name of, to make your cranks......."
it is really true Graeme. It is really true. Someone at Bridgestone racing in England, UK or Great Britain whatever made the cranks. And I do not know the name.
it is really true Graeme. It is really true. Someone at Bridgestone racing in England, UK or Great Britain whatever made the cranks. And I do not know the name.
man again twice! Sorry about that.
Graeme,
Sander is obviously lying again. I remember him starting a thread trying to see the HUTCH stamp on the cranks and then another thread asking what type of font was used. Poor ole Sander, he thinks we're going to give him pity. Too bad Vargas doesn't have his own chatboard for all these types to post. Now that would be a great read, especially regarding details on transactions.
Sander is obviously lying again. I remember him starting a thread trying to see the HUTCH stamp on the cranks and then another thread asking what type of font was used. Poor ole Sander, he thinks we're going to give him pity. Too bad Vargas doesn't have his own chatboard for all these types to post. Now that would be a great read, especially regarding details on transactions.
so how the hell did he get the cranks from you?? was this some kinda cloak and dagger thing. suitcases exchanged while going through a dark section of the channel tunnel. sander you dont just give original aerospeeds to someone you dont know,,, its not possible in any way. who did you give them to????
graeme
graeme
i gave the cranks to the shooter on the grassy knoll.... for shure
graeme
graeme
Back to the original point of the thread, watch your six on that Ebay auction.
For once and for all. I do not have 24hrs online acces and need to go now. BUT I will come back! Like I said I want to help. In the meantime, 'oh no just know, right after I logged out' you other members can expect "you see, he is doing it again, he left and typical Sander, the dramaqueen..." from others. I don't care, all I care is that I want to help at the best way, not at the fastest, but at the best. Point.
If memory serves.............
I recall Sander saying that the bolt on the drive side crank (that holds the chainwheel or disc) of the reproductions was metric thread and that was THE ONLY difference.
I recall Sander saying that the bolt on the drive side crank (that holds the chainwheel or disc) of the reproductions was metric thread and that was THE ONLY difference.
seems allot of things you do weren't your intention --- alittle late for sorry after the fact .....
so you say you "don't do drugs" --- too bad, cause now you have NO EXCUSE for being a dimwitt ---
so you say you "don't do drugs" --- too bad, cause now you have NO EXCUSE for being a dimwitt ---
Just to clear the air on this, PEP stated on the first page of this post that I had something to do with this auction. I never have and never will, period! All I did was try to help out a friend who got burned by the original seller & Paypal. I am just a lowly Haro collector who tries to keep his hands clean of all of this nonsense. At least with Haros there is nothing worth enough to make repops! Thank God!
Dan
Dan
WOW what a load of d00kie sanders is sh1t1ng in his pants cause he knows all of this crap would bite him in the [not so fast, sparky] ,,In my book he is full of c1ap!!!!!
Unfortunately I believe Ken is correct, so Sander is promissing info that doesn't exsist. I don't think there could be a guide on how to tell them appart. I hope I am wrong, but I remember reading the topics from the begining of this mess including when Sander sollicited the details to make them.
[ September 04, 2006, 07:03 PM: Message edited by: Chip ]
[ September 04, 2006, 07:03 PM: Message edited by: Chip ]
this may be the greatest thread ever... I laughed, I cried, but I still cant tell the dif between Aerospeeds & sanderspeeds...
Sander, I for 1 hope you stick around just for the entertaniment value, you funny guy !!!
"pssss, hey, anyone lookin for a "sanderdisk"
Sander, I for 1 hope you stick around just for the entertaniment value, you funny guy !!!
"pssss, hey, anyone lookin for a "sanderdisk"
Hey sander did you get the info we are looking for yet?
Man, just a personal opinion here, but I think this Sander clown has deep mental issues. He's sending $4000 Aerospeeds to a guy he doesn't know and then he's so upset by the outcome that he's now suicidal and then the VBMX Mulies are sneeking around trying to kill him. WOW, what a life. I think I'll put one piecers on my next Hutch. What a freaking spook.
[ September 04, 2006, 10:38 PM: Message edited by: BRIAN HAYS ]
[ September 04, 2006, 10:38 PM: Message edited by: BRIAN HAYS ]
Got an email asking for help with making a guide, sure... Sander - email me photos of real and fake and a description fo the differences and I'll post them on the this thread for you within minutes of receiving the info. Or.. You can do it yourself. There is no proper or improper way, just post the info.
Hutch Freak - Please send me all the pics and info you have. thanks!
If anyone has info on who made these cranks, email me. You will remain anonymous.
This is getting extremely retarded.
Hutch Freak - Please send me all the pics and info you have. thanks!
If anyone has info on who made these cranks, email me. You will remain anonymous.
This is getting extremely retarded.
This made for good reading, this Sander guy seems like a true knucklehead.
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