quoted from the movie stripes "Psycho"

Get real people areo speeds suck... and aren't worth shizit as they broke when you looked at them wrong..................

get yourself a good takagi 1 piece crank.....

wow the sander triburnal is underway again!cool ..this is like waiting for a new show to come out next season...Now down to buss..sander you still owe me some mcs decals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And quit jackin everyone off and explain the friggin diffrence and quit with i wanna help crap and just speak the details man....Its not hard to say just spit it out...i do remember also you stated you and a friend were repopin em...oh what was his name? he sold a lot of nos goods on the bay too,overseas guy pippen or some crap,come on guys someone well know,and i also remember some mention of the metric bolt thing as mentioned...you say you dont do drugs,maybe you should it might make you a better man...Somethingelse how come you only show up when sander sloth cranks are discussed....

I hate to say it but I would like to have some repops for my old bike but I wouldnt want to spend alot of money.they are worth something because all the labor it takes to build them.

it's really hilarouis to me. When I 1st got back into the scene about 10 yrs ago I couldn't believe Hutch was the 'exotic' build. BITD they were just another company like any other.

Not the best, not the worst. Just another bike.

Strange how the only 3pc they made are so desirable. Never seen any in person, but from the sound of the posts here they were iffy at best.
Personally, I thik they look more MTB than BMX and wouldn't bother with them myself.
(and yes, I could afford to)

I dig all the old stuff, bid up the Hutches if you want.

Ahhhh, love a good firestorm in the morning...

Drama besides; the buyer of the Trick Star in the posted auction is the same guy who is apparently selling the cranks off it as NOS, right down to the same bubbles in the same place on the same crank arm. So right there, they've been mounted on a bike; so they are not NOS. That's number one.

Number two: The cranks in the second auction: What is the "reproductions" part? The spindle? The cups? Everything? And what's up with 3 arms?Whatever it is they sure don't look like the cranks in the first auction, so let's disassociate that one for now, for the sake of the argument.

Three: Every single Aerospeed auction that gets posted inevitably falls under the scrutiny of the VBMX cynic squad, thanks to the (we think) one-time reproduction of these highly desirable and expensive cranks. That, coupled with the timely reappearance of Mr. Sander, is the fuel for this particular fire. So now, I guess we can surmise just about ANY set of 'speeds out there could be a repro, unless someone comes forward with more information.

Four: I don't know Sander from Adam---all this happened before I logged on. However, the fact that he needs time to gather information from people he doesn't know regarding cranks that he did not have made....man, it's getting hot in here!

Five: Suicide, death threats...God, I love this thread!!!

As an aside, these cranks are like a curse: If one day I walked into a shop, yard sale, whatever---and stumbled across a set; I'd be hard pressed whether to snag them or leave them. I'd perhaps use them on a TS build or something, but I sure as heck wouldn't try to sell them. No freakin' way.

topic 1. unfortunately about the only places left you can safely buy original aerospeeds would be garage sales or a bike shop's dead stock bins.

topic 2. Sander has played "I've Got A Secret" over and over for years on this board. it is his favorite game. He's playing word games yet again. he doesn't know who exactly made the repros. He knows full well who had the repros made, but he doesn't know the machinist's name at the machine shop where the order was filled.

Sad thing is Sander does have one of the best JMC collections in the world, due to his family's connections with Jim Melton bitd. too bad he has reduced his reputation to road sludge over the years due to his repeated game-playing.

[ September 05, 2006, 12:44 PM: Message edited by: TIM ]

You know, I lent my set of NOS Aerospeeds to a guy who said he could reproduce exact copies of them for me. I met him in the California desert on my way to Vegas, he was hitchhiking. Said his name was Charley, and that he "had connections, ya know?" As collateral, he gave me a rusty linoleum knife and a big, black .357 magnum revolver. I thought it was a little strange, but he had this look in his eye like he knew what he was talking about...
Oh, man has this been entertaining. It just goes to show how bloody funny all this Hutch myth stuff is. The last race bike I owned was an XL24, and I still don't get it. (I ran Takagi 180 1 piecer's on it - heck, I was poor! Takagi's got the job done, though)
Rich Hutchins was not an innovator, he was a businessman. Practically everything they manufactured was a knockoff of another already successful product. But today Hutch stuff brings double the money of other brands, if not more.
Either someone knows the difference between real Aerospeeds and reproductions or they don't. What, it's something that slipped your mind, Sander, and you just have to go find the piece of paper you wrote it down on? BULLSHEET! You just don't want to admit you know anything because it will implicate you as the architect of a shameful scam.

[ September 05, 2006, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: Mike Corvin ]

Holy snap! What is going now can some one just bring back the brand name HUTCH from the dead and end this so all the Hutch peeps can have ALL the Hutch bikes they want! there was a guy in Iowa that made stems,headlocks and he sould be the guy to bring the Hutch brand from the DEAD! To Sander you sould go to Rockford Next year!!!!!

oh sure... the Iowa guy who was repro-ing the stems and headlocks and selling them as NOS on eBay.

perfect guy to revive the Hutch brand.

where exactly do all these knuckleheads come from?

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All this drama over a crankset that BITD would not last two weeks of racing/jumping. They were junk back then and they might as well be junk now. The cranks on the Murray's lasted longer.
If they were not broken, they must not have been ridden.

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This is the smartest, most sensible statement made in this thread hands down.

I mean seriously guys, I'm a Hutch fan and collector myself, but I also have a life.

Aerospeeds are nice for maximum bling on a high end, all-Hutch build, that's it. The very reason they're so valuable today is, because THEY ARE JUNK!

The few sets that did make it out for general use, were quickly warranty-replaced by flights or profiles, and, the aerospeeds went to the landfill.

These cranks have no mystical powers, will not remove jinx, and, wont make you a better lover.

Just thought I'd put that out there to the folks that pay vintage Gibson Les Paul money for the things.

[ September 05, 2006, 02:14 PM: Message edited by: '85TrickStar ]