As many of you know from a previous thread, I very unwittingly acquired a JU6 frame as a PK Ripper in need of serious attention. the headtube was completely missing, portions of the top and down tube were missing (still attached to the missing head tube), the seat mast was snapped off twice (rewelded and broke off again), there was a hole in the seat tube for a bolt, the right chainstay was cracked and the dropouts were in bad shape. here's the "before" photos, the day I got it in the mail.



Rod emailed me a couple of days ago to say that my frame was gonna be headed back to me. He sent me these "after" pics and I about wet myself!! I haven't got the frame yet but I couldn't wait to share it with you guys and brag on Rod's abilities some more.

[ June 02, 2006, 04:40 PM: Message edited by: BRIAN HAYS ]

I'm gonna send it to Chip at C4 labs for a SE brown powder job and I've got most of the NOS parts to assemble it but I'm in desperate need of a set of Cycle Pro or Race Inc leading edge forks before it goes to Chip. I'll post final pics and the list of thank you's when I get the bike together. Thanks Rod !!!!

I'm always amazed when I see these pics (of repairs like this)...very cool.

That looks great Brain, I have a Looptail Floval Flyer that I've been wanting to send to Rod for repair. I too, want to send my Floval after repair to C4 for a SE Brown powder job as that was it's original color. Keep us posted on how it comes out after powder.

Rod worked on my thrashed 20' DG forks, converted it to DG pit forks, I got it back and all I can say, amazing!!!
I highly reccomend you to have Rod work on your damaged frame/ forks/ cranks etc.


Again, Thanks Rod


BTW, that JU6, also amazing!!! nice!

[ June 03, 2006, 10:36 AM: Message edited by: EMPI ]

Brian,

Just to confirm, I am thinking the head tube is new? did the frame tubes need to be spliced and extended or? And the seatpost tube; is that a splice ( add 1 inch) or is it a new tube from the BB up?

In any event nice work by Mr. Miles and I look forward to your finished work.

Curt

Very cool!! Amazing restoration, can't wait to see it completed.

Wow.

Holy moley, thats beautiful!

What percentage of a frame does Rod need to repair the bike? I bet you could send him that missing headtube if you ever got it and he could "fix" that too!

How did he do that??????

WOW!

Sorry, I did leave out the specifics. The head tube is new (old one was still attached when it left the sellers house but box was torn and head tube was MIA when it got to my house. Extremely poor pack job). the seat tube is a complete replacement. The top tube and down tube have been extended to the correct length and the dropouts and chainstay were fixed and filled. he had to remove the top tube and seat tube and start over from there. just the fact that he was able to fab the front tube extensions on the top and down tube is absolutely amazing in itself. The brakebridge had some work done too.

[ June 02, 2006, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: BRIAN HAYS ]

hey Brian,, thats looks like magic!!!!!trick of the eye!!! your gt expert is still in the house!!!sorry about the tufneck deal ,,I was out of the house for a while,,

ricocetj, LOL. you are right. We joked about him just using the bottom bracket shell and starting over. I would never have thought a repair this extensive was possible and he was like "Nooooo problem" and whipped the whole thing out in 4 days!!

Forman, Holy crap, I gave you up for dead. Glad to see you are around still. No harm done.

Stunning work.

I'm curious - if you were to use this frame today, jumping, racing, or whatever, how would it hold up?
The new aluminum parts are probably stronger, but are the old parts fragile?

66, its NOT heat treated. At best it can be gingerly ridden around the 'hood, but thats about it.

Brian, looks great!! I am stoked for ya buddy!!

Are you planning to get it heat treated?

It looks like there are SEVERAL PLACES in your area that should be able to bring that thing back to T6.

Looks awesome though!!!



edit: spelling error
Dave

[ June 02, 2006, 09:34 PM: Message edited by: MoGas ]

Yes, Rod specifically called me to make sure I understood that it is no longer heat treated and said I could ride it around the hood if I kept both wheels on the ground. If I were to get it heat treated wouldn't it then have to be put in a frame jig and straightened?? Considering the fact that A) I'm 6ft tall and 220, I'm too big to be comfortable on it anyway, B) there are only 5 of these known to exist in collectors hands C) I'm honestly gonna have way to much money in it to feel safe riding it and D) I have plenty of other bikes in my collection that are longer and more rider freindly, I'm very content to leave this one on a stand in my living room. This bike is the absolute holiest of grails to me so once this particular one is done, I'm just gonna let it be a carpet queen.

Thanks though Mogas. I had no idea there were that many heat treat places in IL.

[ June 02, 2006, 11:10 PM: Message edited by: BRIAN HAYS ]

Great repair work there by Rod. Definately gonna be a cool project! Now " Git Er Done!! "

Good lord, why would you ride this hard? Even if it's "heat treated", the angles suck by todays standards. Buy Taiwan to ride.

BenOr, Amen. I just took delivery of my 06 PK Ripper Team this week. Very roomy and comfy!!

I'm waiting for Todd to reply...... NS SE is kind of cool.

what a POS, whats a JU6 anyway ?? looks like a PK knockoff...

seriously, the JUs are my holy grail too (ya, me and a few other peeps)...these bikes just reek of old-school BMX...I'm glad to see that you got one Brian because its definetly in the best of hands...

props to Rod for breathing new life into the old workhorse... this guy is the real "Master of Metal"

HEY--

I'm just curious, how do you know it's a JU6 and not a PK RIPPER?

Awesome frame. Rod does do great work!

I'm with cornfed, what's the difference between a JU6 and a regular PK? I'm pretty new to this old school bmx stuff, and curious about the different nuances of these kind of frames. To my untrained eye, that seems like a regular PK Ripper frame!

I am buy no means a expert, but the main difference is that the JU6 does not have the headtube gusset, and they were made before PKs...
check out brians original pics of wear its broken off near the headtube area...there is no evidence of there ever being a gusset welded in there...

Ah,yes... after reading this post (Brian's original thread), I understand. Very Cool!

Now that I understand more fully the significance of this find, I say congratulations to you, Brian Hays!

What color decals do you plan to use on the bike? I'm sure it is going to look great!

check out this thread...much JU6 info and pics...
http://www.vintagebmx.com/cgi-bin/ultimate...t=022712#000000

Yes guys, the only difference between a JU6 and a PK Ripper is that the JU's had no head tube gusset between the top and down tube and also JU's had no serial numbers (check original dropout pic). SE had problems with the headtubes snapping off so when Jeff Utterback left SE to join his dad at GJS, Scot and Bill Bastian added a headtube gusset for strength and added a serial number on the right rear dropout and the JU6 became the PK Ripper. Also remember, when I bought this frame off of ebay all the pics still had the headtube attached but the top and down tubes were both cracked. Definately no gussett or serial number. Thirdly, this frame had numerous spots of the original paint still on it which was dark brown. SE never offered a dark brown PK but there were dark brown JU's. It's definately a JU6.

As far as decal color, Jeff Utterback himself sent me some of his original NOS decals for this build. The two colors offered were tan with brown writing and baby blue with brown writing. This one is getting the baby blue ones to match the NOS brown/baby blue SE vinyl padset.

[ June 03, 2006, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: BRIAN HAYS ]

looks killer! Rod's work is second to none. with the original head tube gone & a few inches of top/ bottom tube it's more like a JU 5.5

[ June 03, 2006, 09:29 AM: Message edited by: Kerry ]

Very funny Kerry. I wonder if I could get JU to put his autograph on some JU5.5 decals for me.
That's hilarious!!

I think we spoke of this in tha past, did they make a round tube JU6?

As for the missing headtube, that sucks that it was sold with one and came to you without????

On another note, I heard Mr. Miles was fixing a JU6 for some UPS guy who only had a ju6 headtube that was missing a frame. Something about only a few in existance and worth $$$$$ the effort..LOL.

Very informative post on all counts.

Curt, you are killing me here with the UPS guy thing. That is hilarious.
Yes, it was sold to me with a headtube, but ole boy decided to colapse a cardboard box, toss the frame in it with ZERO packing and tape the edges up. The frame sliding around in the "box" punctured the taped edge. The lack of packing and tossing around allowed the headtube to finish snapping off and then it exited the box at some point before it hit my front door. I contacted the seller and fedex both, but was unable to come up with it. Since Rod had already told me at this point that it wasn't an issue, I just left the seller positive feedback (just to protect my 100% feedback) and moved on. I mean, c'mon, I had just aquired a JU6 for $45 from a kid who had no clue what he had just given up. I was cool with it.

As far as round top tube JU's.... Yes, Alex Vesa (PK Ripped) has the only one known to exist currently. Same story, just like a round top tube PK but with no gusset.

[ June 03, 2006, 10:47 AM: Message edited by: BRIAN HAYS ]

so its a "RM-6" ...at least the JU's had a headtube ?

heheheheheh

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I just left the seller positive feedback (just to protect my 100% feedback)

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Sad, isn't it? I've had to do the same thing myself, and it just don't feel right!