OK, I've done a little research and I'm wondering about the bike I just bought on E-Bay and picked up today.

Here's the serial #



Now in some of the research I've done for the early 80 Supergoose bikes they have a TC** start to the serial #.

Mine clearly does not have this. My question is, what exactly do i have?

Thanks

[ April 05, 2006, 09:34 AM: Message edited by: MNW ]

I really do not think that gary duped you ,,I really think he gave you a fantastic deal,, thats a great bike!!!!

do you have other pictures of the frame...?

Yes, more pics please. Is that April of 1981?

Maybe duped was a strong word. I retract the word and the implication.

From what i've been reading it doesn't appear to be the same as other Supergoose #'s I've seen.

I know it's a good bike, that's why i bought it.

I'm still kinda confused on this as well. For sure it's an `81, but I thought that when the "T" went away in the serial number that the three-hole rear brake bridge ID'd it as a Supergoose? I'm sure Randy the Gusset 'Goose King will be able to shed some light.

i need some exact info on this too, i have been told differing info on one that i have. mine has the newer style dropouts, just the brake hole in the brake bridge, and no hole in the rectangular piece behind the bottom bracket. were any supers made like this ? i have been told no, so i am about to re-sticker it as a standard goose. thanks, vettefan.

Sometime early in 1981 production changed to overseas, the T CH0 type of s/n ended for all Mongoose frames.

It wasn't until later in 1981 that all Mongoose frames had the new step-up dropouts and the additional brake caliper braket holes were added to the 100% chromoly frames ie: Supergoose, Team Mongoose etc.

You have a 1981 Mongoose, one of the last USA made. Seeing how it's from the inbetween era it's hard to tell without original decals. Do they look original? Does that top tube decal read "all tubes chromoly"? If so, I'd feel save saying it IS a Supergoose.

vettefan, you have a regular Mongoose. Whats the finish?

btw, either frame will also still have the pinched/flatened rt chainstay tube if it's a 100% chromoly frame/Supergoose.

Does that top tube decal read "all tubes chromoly"? If so, I'd feel save saying it IS a Supergoose.

I think it does. Check out the pic:


The decals look like the originals. I"ll have to check about the chainstay when I get home.


Here's the best I can do right now with the pic:


thanks for the reply Randy

*** I edited the title ***

In retrospect I erred in the original wording (duped) in the title.

I don't want it to seem that I was unhappy with the purchase. It's a nice bike but I was expecting to see earmarks of a Supergoose that weren't there from what I've briefly researched. Thus my tempoary dissappointment.

My vote is that it's a real Supergoose. Even if the stickers aren't original (which they look to be), I think I can see the flatened chain stay through the spokes-you can't fake that. To me this is a fairly imporatant bike-it's like the missing link in the Mongoose transition period and shows that a Supergoose doesn't have to have a "T" or a three hole brake bridge to be a real.

Another thing-was there an actual chrome (not nickel) Motomag/Mongoose II made in 1981, or where they all painted?

I'm fairly certain that you won't see a tri-moly/Motomag Mongoose with chrome plating once the overseas production started using the new drop outs.

It certainly looks like the bike from the ad.

So the consensus is that it is a Supergoose from early 1981?

I'll check on the chainstay to see if there is a pinch.

I got home, looked at the bike and found that it does have the pinched chainstay. There is a groove in it from the chain rub it experienced through the years.



I found a coupel of problem spots aside from the groove in the frame. Ididn't notice it at first I think because the hub and the kickstand were obscuring it.

Bottom tube is mangled. Doesn't look like it affects the integrity of the frame.



The top of the left side rear dropout is bent or canted:

I had to contend with this screw to get the brake lever off:


After a 1/2 hr of trying to remove it I took a hack saw to the bolt.

Yeah Mike...good score man..i was cheering for ya!!! So whats the plan homie? Total resto show bike? or you gonna make it a rider/show?

Jon

Well here's some good news:



Original Mongoose bars in nice shape, needs cleaning and polishing.

Jon, I'm thinking red/chrome like the last one I tried to get. I'd like to get a Mongoose Gold Stem for it and a red seat, clamp, grips, rims, brakes, and maybe hubs (although chrome hubs might look cool) and red cages on the pedals.

I'll clean and polish the frame and maybe think about sending this to Rod for the frame repair eventually, once I get some more jingle together.

Definately a REAL SUPERGOOSE!I wish I would have been close enough to pick it up.

Jim

It had one Araya and one Ukai rim.

That Uni seat was a B%$*h to get off. I had to work really hard to wrench it up and off even with the clamp off. My back is sore now. I just need one of those crank wrenches and the breakdown will be complete and the restoration and part accumulating will commence.

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I'm fairly certain that you won't see a tri-moly/Motomag Mongoose with chrome plating once the overseas production started using the new drop outs.

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Disagree.

This one starts "K1" (Nov. 81)
and it has OG Chrome and new drops.





I also had one I bought off of Jim (HH) a couple years ago which was a "California II Special Edition" and it was chrome with 2 hole drops.

So I must be reading your statement wrong..