i was thinking mazez was the one making them and just shilling his product.
but ray may be right.

LOL! Jeffery I never said thats whats happening. Just a possible scenario.

i get it now. Thanks guys. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer sometimes

I've got one of Supercross Bills Nomorea's. We're all cool with that though, correct?

[ February 03, 2006, 11:31 AM: Message edited by: BRIAN HAYS ]

While not a fan of Bill Ryan I can say that theres no problem with the Nomorea frame sets from a deceipt stand point. Bill designed and built those frames as a tribute and in the public eye. The SCAMS that I'm referring to are done under ground and with the purpose of passing a FAKE off as an ORIGINAL.

10/4 Raybeard. I'm with ya now.

Again I must stress I'm not saying anything wrong has been done. But this thread has certainly sparked a few of my brain cells.

Oh boy, take cover.

SO FAR the bikes don't appear, aside from the basic structure, that they're trying to pass off as Nomuras. However, with old school parts, maybe a fresh powder and a few stickers...Oh yes, I can see how that could get dangerous. Let's see if we hear any more from this guy about it.

Well, thats not gonna happen because the geometries are completely different plus the top tube doesn't pierce the seat tube like all true Nomura's did and these appear to be 1 1/8" threadless which in itself is a dead giveaway.

The way it should be. A la Azusa and Kappa.

These bikes are certainly a little different from the original Nomuras, no issue with those frames. The issue is someone in California has/had the tubing and dropouts to make more Nomuras. All I'm saying is its possible that there could be some fake Nomuras. A huge leap of faith at this point but CERTAINLY something I wouldn't rule out down the road. I wouldn't put ANYTHING past the guys that have made FAKE Landing Gears, FAKE VDC forks, FAKE SE Bars, and who know what else. Again not saying anything wrong has been done but I'd be suspicious of Nomura stuff.

FOR THE UNSTRUSTING ONE OUT THERE. THE FRAMES ARE NOT NOMURA THEY ARE TRB (TRUE RADIUS BENDING) HE WAS THE ORIGINAL WELDER FOR NOMURA, WADE STOPED HAVING THE FRAMES MADE. TRB KEPT THE DROPOUTS, CHANGED THE DEMENSIONS, AND NAME, WADE HEARD OF THIS AND ASKED TRB TO MAKE NOMURA AGAIN
[TALKS AREWERE IN PROGRESS.............
NO SCAM UNBELIEVER

I DONT MAKE THE FRAMES I BUY THEM FROM THE WELDER.........................

PS THE WELDER DID NOT TAKE THE FRAMES HE BOUGHT THEM . THEY WHERE HIS WADE CHOSE TO STOP MAKING THEM. WELDER CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS AS LONG AS ITS LEGAL.......T.R.B [TRUE RADIUS BENDING NOT NOMURA.. 1 18 INCH TUBING NOT 1 INCH....THANKS, TRB DEFENDER HEHE

SORRY TAKESTEAL THE DROP OUTS.........
YOU GOT HE ALL MESSED UP HEHE

Please tell more abut the disc brake set up.

its just an adapt. sold at most mtn. bike stores

MAZEZ, I'm not sying there is anything wrong with the TRB frames or that the welder did anything wrong. All I'm saying is my eyes are now open to possible FAKE NOMURAS. There are a few SCUM BAGS from your home state that would sweet talk the welder into building an identical Nomura and then pass it off as a real Nomura. In my opinion Nomuras are now on the possible FAKE list especial when sold by the individuals in California.

Ray, I hope that you are not saying that everyone who lives in Cali should be regarded as suspicious. I know that there are a few bad seeds in my state but there are also alot of great guy's too.

I purchased one of these TRB frames because I thought it was cool that it had the style of a Nomura but the dimensions of a MTB. When I received the frame I noticed that the rear dropout had TRB stamped into it. I thought that it was great that the welder chose to I.D. the frame allowing everyone to know that it is not a Nomura.

I am sure I will probably crack the frame since I am pretty hard on my MTB bikes. After that it probably will go into the can. I have been burned before with purchasing false items, think SE cruiser bars. I wasnt aware until Tim caught wind that there where some repro bars floating around.

I know that this can be a double edge sword especially to someone who is new and uneducated to vintage bmx collecting. But please try not to give my state a bad taste in the collecting community. It has happened in other places as well, remember "Sander speeds".

Doc, I certainly wasn't referring to you. I think you know who I'm talking about. Don't take it personal but many of the SCUM BAGS are in So Cal because thats where the bike companys were located.

I have one of the 24" TRB frames and it looks to be well made. I just need to get that frame polished out like those in the photo.