Kelly B
Dec 15 2007, 07:52 PM
RED BARON, I know who and what you are. Thanks a ton for the killer words. They really mean alot to me coming from you. The forest is my land. I bought 10 acres to have fun on and as a investment. My grandpa died and left me $ so I bought land. The whole place was thick with trees like you see in the back ground. I cleared them all with a chainsaw and loppers. The jumps are dug with a hand shovel, no machines.
pieter723
Dec 15 2007, 08:27 PM
Kelly B ,, Goodness, that looks like a harry set of doubles !! And Im with you when you say "even 10 feet felt big ,, as a kid !" Awesome picture !!!!
The Red Baron
Dec 15 2007, 09:16 PM
QUOTE
My grandpa died and left me $ so I bought land.
BRILLIANT! That is the best thing you could have done.
Thank you also for the kind words. Yep, I used to be somebody. Now I am just a working class hero like the rest of us.

(but it is good to be me)
Reilley1
Dec 15 2007, 09:44 PM
Kelly B, you are certifiably nuts. That's insane. I went out for a ride with some friends today and was proud of myself for catching like 3 feet of air
I gotta get that magazine. Can't find it anywhere..
The Red Baron
Dec 15 2007, 09:50 PM
Hey Rick, I would have loved to have gone on that ride with you guys today, but it is a tough time of the year to expend energy on the weekend. That is my time to recover. I have one more week and then Christmas Eve of delivering packages. Then we will get together and do some riding.
I hope you guys had fun. The weather was nice up here.
Alvin Mullins Old school pool rider
Dec 15 2007, 09:51 PM

Andy Patterson jumpping Byron Friday's car at the punch bowl early 80's
rlowride
Dec 15 2007, 09:52 PM
QUOTE (SkyKing @ Mar 3 2007, 05:09 AM)

i know in some crazy scheme, to make money.....
Haro, echo, and oakley.. made more than one of each item..... i would swear that is me in the Haro gear......
can anybody name these guys or where the pic was taken???
imma see if i cant find a few shots of me.....
but dang.. i could swer that is me??????????
Kelly B
Dec 15 2007, 10:40 PM
F-IN WOW
RED Im a workin class dude just like you. Legends never die! RED BARON!!
Reilley, You don't have to look any more. You have a Xmas gift going out monday. My daughter and I went to Barnes and Nobles today and got some. I hate asking for stuff. We went and bought (supported) a mag that we are in.
Rlowride, It is wild that you posted that pic. That is My cousin Dennis Tilton (in the haro garb) and BJ Gant in the last corner of the old Orlando fairgrounds track. Dennis is on a Boss that he still has. The Redline cranks that are on the bike in the picture just got Ebayed 2 months ago. Dennis still rides and rips. He was up just a few months ago and now he ride a FBM bitcin Camaro. He lives in Zepherhills. Im gunna tip him off to this tread. He is a VBMX member.
That is DENNIS TILTON.
84profile
Dec 16 2007, 02:02 AM
This thread is awesome...I occassionally think why don't I bust airs like I did as a kid...I still race every now and then, but jumping is always where it has been for me! I still hit up a few big jumps but nothing like I did in the old days..
Is there anything better than the feeling of nailing a huge gap and pulling off a smooth landing..I think not.
That forest jump, is so brilliant in many ways...I really dig that fact you are an old schooler still going huge, the fact that you built the jump by hand and that is it on your land.... time is just numbers and you have proven that..inspirational stuff...Thanks for sharing!
A few more of me and the mates bitd:


Jarvi
Dec 16 2007, 02:34 AM
This thread is just getting better by the post. Kelly B that is an awesome jump. Must be good knowing that the jump won't disappear anytime or get ruined like so many of our old jumps that were on public land.
84profile, next time I'm up your way we're going jumping. It's fun riding along the beach but I'm with you, racing is all right but jumping is where it's at. And I need the jumping practice. Maybe just hit the first straight at Ashmore on a better bike than last time.
redlineoz
Dec 16 2007, 03:04 AM
kelly b, did u buy land with a ravine in it, and u had to jump it.. man that is rockin.. i got a nose bleed lookin at the pic, and with the backdrop, awesome
84 that last pic of u, man thats some big air,

looks like u droppin outta the tree,,, and it looks like a pebble/ stone path,,,, we used to tear up the local park in moorabbin that had a small track around it, but no jumps.. but good for slides..
jarvi sounds like fun, but i take too long to heal these days..
cheers great pix everybody
Chris C.
Dec 16 2007, 06:27 AM
KellyB, I am not sure I would have done that in the 80s, let alone at my age today. Killer pic and kudos to you get still getting after it.
Chris
The Red Baron
Dec 16 2007, 01:29 PM
I am hopeing that most here understand that "big air" is relative. This next picture is from 1976 off Bonsai hill at Saddleback in Southern California. That is me in 5th place in orange.

This picture is from the far end of the track looking at the face of bonsai. This was taken in 75 and that is me in 2nd. We would hit this jump at full speed, the face is probably 20 feet high, then it crosses a flat while turning left, and you land on the side of the hill continueing left.

What do you guys think? Do these deserve to be in a "big air" thread?
Chris C.
Dec 16 2007, 01:46 PM
QUOTE (The Red Baron @ Dec 16 2007, 07:29 PM)

I am hopeing that most here understand that "big air" is relative. This next picture is from 1976 off Bonsai hill at Saddleback in Southern California. That is me in 5th place in orange.

This picture is from the far end of the track looking at the face of bonsai. This was taken in 75 and that is me in 2nd. We would hit this jump at full speed, the face is probably 20 feet high, then it crosses a flat while turning left, and you land on the side of the hill continueing left.

What do you guys think? Do these deserve to be in a "big air" thread?
Those pics deserve to be in ANY thread in this section of the forum!!
Richard Vogt - bmxmountainbiker
Dec 16 2007, 02:28 PM
Damn, Red. You can post 'em like that any time. I'm almost embarassed to post this one of me when I was State Commissioner for Georgia BMX in 1989. It ain't big air, but it was MY air...

This was taken on the second straight of the Newnan, Georgia track. An old friend had taken this picture of me on my Revcore cruiser BITD and just recently emailed it to me...

I lost most of my old BMX and skateboarding pics when my mom's house was destroyed by Katrina. All of our family photos were lost, too, when my mom and step-dad decided it was time to leave the house and run for higher ground. It was a good thing they did, or they'd be gone, too.
Thank goodness for the Internets and for sites like these... otherwise, things that were lost would stay lost forever.
Richard Vogt
bmxmountainbiker
P.S. KellyB, that 40' jump is SICK any era, any day, any time... but Stu's flat-ground landings are SICK, too, with a lot of GNARLY thrown in for good measure! Stu is the man when it comes to flat-ground landings!
The Red Baron
Dec 16 2007, 03:08 PM
Richard Vogt - bmxmountainbiker
Dec 16 2007, 05:41 PM
Red, that is priceless... what is that, a 16" top tube on Stu's bike?

And what are those two spectators pointing at? Don't they realize "the great one" is launching off of that jump?

In Mississippi we would have hogs in a mudhole like that...
Richard Vogt
bmxmountainbiker
Hey, is that you BEHIND Stu?
MadCowboy
Dec 16 2007, 05:42 PM
I'd give anything to ride some of those downhill tracks of the 70s. Those pictures rock Red!
Kelly B
Dec 16 2007, 06:00 PM
RED, I think it is safe to say that you are a pioneer of BMX. Who knows if the sport would be where it is today without people like you and you have the pic to prove it. Those down hill track jump pics are the best in my opinion.
The Red Baron
Dec 16 2007, 06:14 PM
QUOTE
Hey, is that you BEHIND Stu?
Yep! I spent my career studying his lines.
R. Serafin
Dec 16 2007, 06:22 PM
QUOTE (Kelly B @ Dec 15 2007, 09:12 PM)

I just thought this was a cool topic and the only old school part of my reply is my age. I'm 41 now and this pic was taken a few months ago. 40 foot doubles I dug and jumped at 40 years old. That is my biggest air.

Kelly B: That is freakin RAD !!! MAD props bro !
Richard Vogt - bmxmountainbiker
Dec 16 2007, 06:28 PM
KellyB,
Using your progression: 10' at 10 years old, then 40' at 40 years old... you'll be jumping 50' when you're my age!
Richard Vogt
bmxmountainbiker
P.S. That's rad, man. I remember seeing a 12 year old kid named Bill Madden at Picayune MX/BMX track in the early 1980s who could JUMP like crazy... your 40' jump reminds me of him... The closest I ever got to that kind of distance was the doubles at Nashville, and they were a good 10' shorter than that... keep it up!
Kelly B
Dec 16 2007, 06:49 PM
Richard Vogt, That is exactly what I'm shooting for. I think that the older I get the smarter I get about riding (I might be a idiot though).



I'm simply trying to add to this tread. Thanks so so much for the great words everyone.
Richard Vogt - bmxmountainbiker
Dec 16 2007, 06:52 PM
Holy crap!
I know where that bloody helmet on your avatar came from!
Richard Vogt
bmxmountainbiker
Monrezee
Dec 16 2007, 07:33 PM
Kelly B, your the man.
SkyKing
Dec 16 2007, 10:34 PM
rlowride, yeah kb is right, that's me and bj gant at orlando. i'm amazed he didn't say it was percy. he's also right that i totally still rip. sure. he on the other hand makes me proud to be his cousin.
we actually bought both the pics izor had. this one is the other in the sequence:
MadCowboy
Dec 16 2007, 11:18 PM
Those are some awesome doubles you got there Kelly. The doubles in the middle pic arent the same as the ones in the others are they? How many sets do you have and howd you build them? Backhoe and a loader? Looks like there is huge hole between the one set.
Thats some serious radness going on there btw
scottTowne
Dec 17 2007, 10:18 AM
Kelly has a giant head. Size 8 1/4.
Kelly B
Dec 17 2007, 10:32 AM
Scott, you own thee biggest head thread. Here is a pic of Mr Towne.

Mad cowboy, There is about 2 acres that are full of jumps, berms, handrails and a curved wallride. The only mechanical tool that has been used is a chainsaw. Everything has been dug by hand with picks and shovels. One spring I took like 4 days of work and just went up there everyday till dark and dug the line where Im on the green bike. I have owned the land since 98? We have probably dug there more than we have riden there.
MadCowboy
Dec 18 2007, 10:02 AM
QUOTE (Kelly B @ Dec 17 2007, 10:32 AM)

Mad cowboy, There is about 2 acres that are full of jumps, berms, handrails and a curved wallride. The only mechanical tool that has been used is a chainsaw. Everything has been dug by hand with picks and shovels. One spring I took like 4 days of work and just went up there everyday till dark and dug the line where Im on the green bike. I have owned the land since 98? We have probably dug there more than we have riden there.
I see that you stacked rocks up to make the first hill on the one set of doubles. Probably saved you tons of shovelwork. I'm impressed. Those hills rock! (no pun intended)
Kelly B
Dec 18 2007, 10:09 AM
Thanks Madcowboy. The rocks are ones that have been dug up and I built the walls to hold the dirt in place. The only bad part about the rock walls is that snakes hangout in them and I'm the worlds biggest snake puzzy. I stack logs that are cut up and bury them also.
Just to let people know who don't is that Towne and I are very good freinds. He physically has a big head (has to costumize his helmets) and I'm always picking on him about it. That is where the big head stuff comes from.
rlowride
Dec 18 2007, 08:35 PM
QUOTE (SkyKing @ Dec 17 2007, 04:34 AM)

rlowride, yeah kb is right, that's me and bj gant at orlando. i'm amazed he didn't say it was percy. he's also right that i totally still rip. sure. he on the other hand makes me proud to be his cousin.
we actually bought both the pics izor had. this one is the other in the sequence:

thats an awsome pic..... i knew it wasnt me.. i just knew i raced at orlando.. and i never seen another haro set like that.. i rode in the same helmet.... and if you look in midschool.. at my
seperation anxiety thread.... the first pic of my bike..... the number plate.... i was national #12.... you have the noticable 2..... and i have a red sticker in near the same place!!!!!!
Besides i knew i never raced pery or bj.. and if i did, i wouldnt have been that close!!!!
perfectnut
Jan 31 2008, 06:52 PM
nice thread, i need to find a host for uploading some pics
-p
Click to view attachment
pwh4130
Jan 31 2008, 06:58 PM
I can't post a pic! Dang it. I love rad jumping shots!
perfectnut
Jan 31 2008, 07:01 PM
Click to view attachmentlet me try this again..
if I get this uploaded, taken in 1979 -- Makiki Park development, dark day. Photographer was a cat named Cosmo. Hawaii, btw..
This jump was the best ever, too bad it didnt last too long, on the other side of the park was another jump, Jeremy Kam must remember this one.
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Jeremy K.
Jan 31 2008, 07:12 PM
perfectnut,
YEAH! Another Hawaiian. I remember the jump well. Post more Pics and post on hawaiibmx.com. I'm glad you found your way here. Is this who I think it is? PM me.
Stu Thomsen
Jan 31 2008, 08:29 PM
Stu Thomsen
Jan 31 2008, 08:32 PM
Elvis
Jan 31 2008, 08:44 PM
Stu,
I don't know if you saw where Bill asked you up-thread, but what was it like landing flat after jumping three cars?
This thread is awesome, one of those ones that make you happy there's an Internets.
Also, I'll bet my XXXXL head is bigger than Towne's
Stu Thomsen
Jan 31 2008, 08:51 PM
Sorry about the dbl posting. I din't bother looking through all that had been posted already.
Landings were smooth. Even did some one-handers. But when I took one hand off the bar the backend seemed to drop. That made for some exciting landings. Never broke anything [that day]. That is one of my all time favorite shots. I also just got a remake of a poster made for Oakley by Haro. As soon as I get a chance I'll post a picture of it. Maybe someone out there has an original poster.
Brian B
Jan 31 2008, 09:15 PM
Stompin',
Didn't you leave Knobbie prints on the first porsche during the first run up then they moved the ramp back a bit?
RodneyR
Jan 31 2008, 09:22 PM
I think that pic jumping the cars is one of the koolest ever!!! Iknow it wasnt the highest ever but, one of the best jumps Iever saw was at Fremont Raceway bitd Stu jumped past, I think It was McNeil for the win at the line!! In my mind that jump gets farther and farther with every year that goes by!!
guest_070901
Feb 1 2008, 11:17 AM
this is still my favorite statement in the whole thread

"That's way more air than the guy that gets shot out of the cannon at the circus. "
perfectnut
Feb 1 2008, 01:51 PM
QUOTE (Stu Thomsen @ Jan 31 2008, 04:51 PM)

Sorry about the dbl posting. I din't bother looking through all that had been posted already.
Landings were smooth. Even did some one-handers. But when I took one hand off the bar the backend seemed to drop. That made for some exciting landings. Never broke anything [that day]. That is one of my all time favorite shots. I also just got a remake of a poster made for Oakley by Haro. As soon as I get a chance I'll post a picture of it. Maybe someone out there has an original poster.
Stu Thomsen, mongoose great from the 70s! Awesome dude, I remember back then the guys I looked to imitate were you (those skatepark shots were retarded), Tinker Juarez, John George and Harry Leary..
In the picture going over the cars, you had no landing ramp - or so it appears. When jumping in this manner, did you try to land "two wheels" down or "rear-first-roll-away"?
Props to you - still around the scene..
-Paiea Paul, the "Perfectnut"
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perfectnut
Feb 1 2008, 01:59 PM
QUOTE (Jeremy K. @ Jan 31 2008, 03:12 PM)

perfectnut,
YEAH! Another Hawaiian. I remember the jump well. Post more Pics and post on hawaiibmx.com. I'm glad you found your way here. Is this who I think it is? PM me.
Howdy.. I registered on hawaiibmx.com however have some problems uploading there. You used to ride a gold Jag back in the day, i remember you well.. then again, I knew who the hot jumpers were back then. I actually cared not about racing, which was unfortunate, rather I lived to jump LOL
This pic gives a better perspective of the Makiki Jump back in 79. On the far upper left side of the pic shows another row of dirt piles. Behind that pile lay another bad-[please review the site FAQs] jump except I cared for it less since the take-off was a large wooden board.
This pic was warm-up that day, I was getting rad that day.. nevertheless, here you go big air.
uh oh, the smallest i can get the pic is 74kb and the max shows allowable 54.63kb
use your imagination then LOL
.. good day gents
oh, dont know how to PM, i'll poke around, figure it out
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Jeremy K.
Feb 1 2008, 02:10 PM

Paiea,
Try downloading your pics to photobucket then resizing it. I am sure you an figure it out if a computer illiterate like me can figure it out. I hope you are able to post those pics! I am looking forward to them. Nothing like seeing some old school pics of the places we used to ride at.
Heres one for you. Kahala pool on Keanu st with the Jag.
Later,
JK
perfectnut
Feb 1 2008, 03:22 PM
Thanks JK
Pool jumping, never tried that before..
ok -- i did the photobucket thing, let me try to link it now.. my first time with this, be patient please
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Makiki Jump circa 1979/1980:
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh82/pe...xup-makiki1.jpg
Jeremy K.
Feb 2 2008, 02:16 AM
Nice! Keep um coming!
Stu Thomsen
Feb 2 2008, 03:44 AM
RodneyR,
I remember that jump [over kevin] like it was yesterday. My dad got that on 8mm. I believe it's on Joe Kid. There is also a still picture of it floating around.
RodneyR
Feb 2 2008, 04:20 AM
Stu, I'll check out the dvd for it. I got to see alot of kool things going to Fremont Raceway with my dad BITD. The battles between the Snake and the Mongoose, rocket cars, Big Daddy Don Garlis I even saw The late great Evil Knievel jump at the track, and your jump is right up there with all of them. Maybe even more because I didnt have a drivers licence but .. I had a bike....
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