Randy (from Andy) lol

I don't like the way it's built - lol

They don't destroy memoribilia at Hard Rock Cafe, Planet HollyWood
Maybe the owners of that company can buy out TGIF

I posted a comment on their stupid comment page.
Doubt if it will do any good

but we have to start somewhere

well Ted, they do drill the bikes. ive seen it. they do it for the same reason they over-do it when mounting everything else. insurance. would you really wanna sit at dinner and get knocked out cause some tuba fell off the wall? they are smart in the sense that they dont want to hand the keys over to someone cause they sued them. that is the thing to do lately. im sure they could mount a bike the "right" way, but then again that would take too long to learn a new way to do a corporate thing.

Well, mine never seem to hit the floor! At least, not until I want them to!.....




Maybe if you buy 100 BUA bike racks, she would become a regular customer of yours. You could be her supplier, and you could start saving to buy your TGIF of choice. All they would have to do is clamp a padlock over the frame tubes. Couldn be stolen, couldn't fall down. You would be her favorite seller!

Actually, they are probably more worried that some drunken member of VBMX is going to steel the damned thing, and therefore they have it bolted to the structure of the building!

Alright Rick, I'll start some drama for you! I am going to start the PFDHIAP movement! The People For Drilling Holes In All Pattersons! Pattys suck anyway, let it go........ lol

[ November 29, 2005, 03:18 AM: Message edited by: Ted Carl ]

Actually, they are probably more worried that some drunken member of VBMX is going to steel the damned thing, and therefore they have it bolted to the structure of the building!

WHAT! I could never do such a thing! Get drunk that is, Some grey goose & some OJ juice! They will never catch me!

The goose is loose!!!

I've heard and seen pics of holes drilled thru RIMS, but not FRAMES. To drill thru Chrome Moly isn't like going thru wood. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it can't be all the time, there are easier ways to secure a bike to a wall. I'll pay attention to the methods when I go.
Huntcart doesn't hang the bikes, the contractors working for TGI do.

hey Ted, i like my Patterson, lay off and im with DMG. too many people feeling lukewarm about the whole thing. i understand we can do little to stop this, but still...

its nice for peeps to see them displayed,but worng the way they display them!!
Hey ted how dare you hang that red baron aircraft from strings..planes dont like hangin from strings..lol...killer room,i love aircraft too!!but whare do i find those racks very cool!!and are those lights ?or just some kind of fancy back plates for the racks?

Easy Jase, I like Pattersons too!

The bike racks are BUA racks. Stands for Bikes Up and Away. I got them here cuz the price was good with free shipping. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/brandsplace/0078-35010.html

I"ve seen them on ebay and all around. You have to spread the arms a bit to go around the frame pad. 2 screws into the stud, not going anywhere. And I was serious, If I had some on hand I would contact huntcart and offer her a bulk price on them. If a guy hooked a padlock around each arm to the top tube, it would be impossible for it to fall off, or steal. She would probably buy 100 of them and everybody would be happy as a clam in the mud. The point is to offer her a realistic solution.

Disclaimer, no part of any airplane or bicycle was harmed in any way in the photo above....

Since many are asking about it. It is a museum scale, 1/4 scale Fokker Dr I Triplane 477/17. Manfred Von Richthofen's plane which he scored the most kills in, before it was all red. I built it from scratch. Every color, every stitch, every fastener had to be verified. Even the controls in the cockpit move, the bullets are brass, and the seat belts clasp together like the real ones did. Has a 4 stroke v-twin 2.0 CI engine. The rack was handbuilt from Oak and Brass rod, and the plane just sits on it. You are welcome to check out more photos of them at my website (which has nothing to do with BMX bikes) to save me the individual messages. http://www.maidenusammp.com This thread needs some lightening up anyways....may be a good distraction. lol

Interestingly, a lot of modelers prefer to make deals with places like TGI Fridays (And museums), so thier masterpieces can be seen, but they don't take up space in their house. However, they usually include a buyback clause, or lend/lease agreement.

Here is a better shot of how the BUA racks work. Offering huntcart a deal on 100 of them would be a great idea to benefit everyone...I am not a BUA dealer though...



[ November 29, 2005, 08:55 PM: Message edited by: Ted Carl ]

You can have opinions other way. I know some people hate my collection because I never ride my bikes, but others say why ruin the part/bike and keep it preserved.

Some restore history, others preserve it.

In the end, the owner does what he/she chooses regardless what the majority may voice.

That sting would'nt last 2 seconds at my tgif! Lucky that one is in a private residence or else...
Zip-zip(DEWALT DRILL) pssstpssst(FIX-A-FLAT) audi5000

[ November 29, 2005, 10:13 PM: Message edited by: Ted Carl ]

You guys are giving TGIF too much credit about how they see the bikes. It's not about a collectible 80's BMX bike to them, it's a theme consistent in their restraunts. They buy them to decorate. They don't care about collectibilty, personal value, background, heritage, the sport, whatever. They want crap from a certain era and right now they see BMX bikes as cheap and easy. It's just a decoration to them. If you look around in their restraunts you will see all kinds of collectibles "ruined", they don't care, they use it for decoration, you use it for memories and a warm fuzzy feeling about a portion of your life. It's not like they are ruining the original copy of the U.S. Constitution or something with historical impotance that cannot be replaced, they see it (as most people do) as a kids bicycle.
Look at bicentenial quarters, I know coin collectors who freak out because they are "getting rare" and "limited". Whatever, it's a quater gimme it and I'll drop it in the car wash along with my other two so I can wash my car.
You want to save these pieces from TGIF?
You buy them! It's really that easy. It makes me sad to see them hung in the restraunts as well as many people have stated before this hopefull last post. They bought it, so they can weld them all together and sell them for scrap if they wanted to. It's Theirs! After they buy them they owe nothing to anyone as to how the bikes get treated or end up once they are finished with them. And to make guidelines for contractors as to how they mount them....Good luck on that one. I think they would deal with the priority situations and how to run a multi-billion dollar restraunt chain.

jeeze...

i'm sure the collectors of "masters of the universe" action figures cringe the same way when they see that 2" sheetrock screw through the chest of "she-ra" on the wall......

would not bother me in the least if i saw tim's looptail redline attached to the wall with angle iron welded to the frame.

1 day left on the Robinson. Money talks and BS walks. Save it, or let it go. My money says she gets it....

Nobody has mentioned the simplest solution. If you sell them in parts, she will have no interest in them.


EXACTLY Tim....nobody cares about it as much as you do. If you dont want someone to disrespect it, then don't even let anybody even ride it. Cuz once it's in someone elses hands, it aint yours anymore!

[ November 30, 2005, 02:06 PM: Message edited by: Ted Carl ]

It would be easier to remove the welded-on, bolted-on , superglued-on, concrete cemented-on the TGIF wall Robinson than to get you to sell that loop Redline Tim..

Man,
I'd love to have that Robinson but that's a lot of coin.
And my credit card is just about paid off...
Decisions, decisions...........

that Robinson is sweet


It would be a good starting point to rebuild this:


but I'm sure TGIF needs it more

Looks like someone stepped up and "saved" the robinson. It surely went higher than I was expecting. ...good for Joe.

John

[ December 01, 2005, 05:58 PM: Message edited by: jfretless ]

So I'm not the only dork that used to draw bikes...

Hi, I just joined your forum. Wow, lots of thoughts on my buying BMX bikes to use in my decor packages for TGIF. Several months ago I heard from a BMX seller who expressed his concern of the drilling into these beautiful bikes. I addressed this with the head installer (who does not work for me) and I was under the impression they were no longer drilling them - not in the frame, not the rims, not even the tires. Obviously they still are drilling them. I am going to address this and make sure we come up with a solution to secure the bikes to the walls (so they don't "disappear") but also maintain their physical integrity. Believe me, these bikes very much appreciated and enjoyed when they are seen in the restaurants...so many people see them and remember having one.
If they ever come down off the walls, they will NOT go into the trash.
My goal is certainly not to upset serious BMX collectors. If any of you want to put together some cool looking BMX bikes for me (build them to look like a bike from the era, etc.) I would be intereted to see what you could offer me. I simply want beautiful bikes that reflect the era (I grew up in that era too...) and show the uniqueness and sentiment of the BMX.
Very sincerely,
Michelle

Welcome!

The TGIF in my area does not have any BMX memorabilia. I think it would be nice to see, and offer to donate a bike for display.
-Chip

So where are the 2 I sold you?

Michelle, thanks for joining us! I am glad you are on board with the preservation and display of this cool old junk. Do what you can to convince your installer not to damage the bikes.
I don't do the TGIF thing, but I appreciate that they are putting our heritage and hobby on display.

Welcome Michelle!

Are you single? LOL!

I think it is great to see you here! Enjoy!

Welcome Michelle - and I thought it wasn't you. I'm glad you joined us there's a lot to talk about and learn in these forums. You'll find out soon enough.

I wonder where the stuff I sold you ended up. I sold you an ET poster and also a couple complete bikes from what I remember.

How do you determine what you're looking to buy anyway? Just curious.

Mike

[ December 03, 2005, 04:43 PM: Message edited by: Chevron Envy ]

that bike ain't worth that much

Um, welcome Michelle, but er, you paid way tooo much for that bike.

You obviously have money to burn.
I'd happily be your advisor on what bikes to buy for a 50% fee.
So, based on what you just paid for that Patterson I'd get about $450 - $500.

Let me know if your keen - I could even reduce my rate to 45%


-AndyDiamond

Dave Muggleston, You sir have nailed it! That is such corporate crap! She is now a little worried that this could really gain momentum and turn a 180 on the marketing strategy they aimed at us X'ers. She did'nt give two hoots about the bikes or the sentimental value that they have! You don't see a vintage wood tennis raquet site do you? If she cared she would have set a guideline standard for mounting them with out damage and carefull detail to safety! This is the way they back pedal showing empathy and some concern. Now tgif can sweat a little and think about how the company spokesman answers questions as to why some of the very customers that they target for marketing are rescuing the bikes off the walls of their establishments and are willing to risk jail time!We VBMX bros could unleash hell on them Saturday thru Thursday and give them a real reason to thank GOD on Friday! Victory will be ours ! Viva the REAL REVOLUTION! OK I'm done for now....

????????

How much of an economic impact do you really think the members of this website could impose on a national restaurant chain? Maybe you guys are including some sarcasm of which I didn't pick up.

Whether she cared about the bikes before or cares about them now, I doubt she or her company needs to be too concerned if all VBMXers boycotted TGIFridays alltogether. Heck, I never go there more than once or twice a year anyway.

I think they need to stick with cute signs and fishing reels, etc. for their wall decor but I never had them call and ask my opinion. Leave the oldschool bikes to those of us who LOVE them.

I was talking with a friend who deals in vintage stuff and he says he has gotten notices from TGIF about auctions of stuff they wanna get rid of so at least these bikes won't end up in the landfill, bad thing is these bikes probably won't be available for years and years. Huntcart's reply to this post seemed sympathetic to us but at the end of the day she is part of a corporation that just doesn't care, to quote someone I have worked for..."Im too rich to care". And TGIF would never even know if there is a boycott of sorts. At the end of the day it is about the money, those who have it and those who don't. Waddaya gonna do?

n2o, I am talking about ripping the bikes down off the wall and high - tailing out of there before the fuzz gets there! I am not talking sissy boycotts here, I'm talking all out war with these SO Bees!So she's now a member and we are welcomed her like a long lost sister of bmx days gone bye? Are you guys nuts? You guys show some serious hate comments when a member in good standing "some even with wacky builds" I won't mention any names posts a pic of a bike that is not true to the period or have the wrong colour red or a brake on the front fork or whatever. She on the other hand inflates the prices on evil-bay than she turns around and drills holes in them and mounts them on a wall like a safari trophy! W T F are you guys smoking? I want some!