Explain bro....

Yes, please explain! Was that you or Hibner that T-boned the hell outta me, taking the win in class that race?

Tim
You still holdin' a grudge

I think it is time to let it go man


Rusty Cable did the same to me once. Come to think of i t, I think I did it to a few people too

"I think it is time to let it go man"

I always raced clean...just ask Mark Lopez!

Yeah Gabriel..........like that time you tried to take me out in the last turn in Meridan CT.? I was so ****ed you took me from 1st to 3rd 50 ft. before the finish that I took my third place trophy and smashed it over a metal garbage can!

Guys......

Like the Black Eyed Peas song.....WHERE IS THE LOVE?

...I have a request for the 1985 NBL 13 and under cruiser results. Here you go Greg!

Check out who finished Nat. # 19 twenty years ago:

1.) Lawan Cunningham IA
2.) Mark Franklin MI
3.) Robert Lincourt RI
4.) Steven Smith OH
5.) Brian Lopes CA
6.) Dennis Dayrit VA
7.) Todd Lyons OH
8.) Shan Hatfield GA
9.) Joe Spuryer TN
10.) Gibby Graner NJ
11.) Greg Mazuy NJ
12.) Jason Theodore PA
13.) Justyn Wall CN
14.) John Hancock FL
15.) Dan Lienerth IN
16.) Erin Salie CA
17.) Butch Loyd DE
18.) Brian Norris MI
19.) Jeremy McGrath CA
20.) Tom Robinson MI

Hey,thanx for putting that up,I been wondering about all those names,rembered a bunch but not all
I went into the grands that year #4 and had the worst race of my life.
Its cool at least I beat Mcgrath(L.O.L),I am going on A Harley ride tomorrow and am printing this off to show the boyz.

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.....WHERE IS THE LOVE?
Relax Johnny, we saw each other, and so much BITD, there is nothing but love!

"...I have a request for the 1985 NBL 13 and under cruiser results."

Cool! Do you have the 14-15 cruiser results from '83?

Tim,
I found a really good Cool Tool team pic recently I'll dig it up and post it.

I used to have a rivalry with CW's Tony Denham from 1980- 1981. That guy didn't like me at all. Eventually we worked it out. Think he doubled at the 80' ABA Grands and won X at the 80' NBA Grands. He chilled out after I won Rancho DB nats summer of 81'.

Tim,
Unfortunately no, I don't. I don't have any papers from '83 at all. I need to take a trip over to my parents house to see what they still have...

Sorry about that!

As mentioned in that point standing post... (Even though he's younger than us) I ran into "Changa" Lawan Cunningham a few times in 99' - 2001. He hangs out with Karim Richardson still.

Together, Lawan and I DJed a King Of Dirt jumping contest at the Huntington Beach Ca. pier.

Brian Gass (World champion in our class in 86' I think) hired Lawan and I. Brian is the actual owner of the owner/ man behind the name "King Of Dirt." Billy Griggs, Eric "Big E" Bartoldus (Red Line, Powerlite), and Phil Maxwell (Jag) were the celebrity judges.

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"found a really good Cool Tool team pic recently I'll dig it up and post it."
Wow, we were rarely in the magazines since we weren't really selling anything. Where did you get it?

Eeekk, I turn my back and...

hehehe..

Oh man, no no... I am not, nor have I ever claimed to be Bubba Hayes... What I meant was "This Bubba *we are talking about* is Bubba Hayes...

I'm way down here in New Zealand.... And I aint no Melvin...I'm a Mike...LOL

Must be all that Californian air doing weird things to y'all heheheheheheehe

Tim,

Here are the national standings from the '83 NBL season.

Here's the rest from '83.

Wow, there's so many names listed that I haven't heard in years... I can't believe how many riders (fast riders, too) in that list pretty much dissapeared after that season...I wonder what the "turnover rate" is is BMX? What's the average membership span or career? I bet it's not more than 4 years. Maybe one of the sanction people could respond?

Look, Brent Romero #1 in 10X... how old was he really? inquiring minds want to know...

Thanks Brad!
I never saw that list.

The black ad white team photo is an ad in an NBL Rule Book. Can't remember the year though. Soon as I find it again, I'll post.

"I never saw that list."

Poor Michael Goeddy: He just missed being #1 in Cruiser AND Class!

Tim Gabriel

What's worse is that Michael Goeddy got # 2 behind Tomac the next year and then #2 behind me in 1985. He never could put it together at the Grands. Super fast guy, but I don't think he ever won the Title.

Tim,

My season just ended and I got #2 in 35 and over Expert and #5 in Cruiser. I didn't make the cruiser main. When are you going to make your come-back? It was a ton of fun racing again. I even went to Paris and raced in the World Championships.

There are quite a few old schoolers still racing. I did some battle with Frank Nuccio at the Grands last week. That litte guy flys. Hope you doing well.

"Hope you doing well."
Way to go Jud!
I ride every other day on my MTB for at least two hours. I mix up road, XC, and DH. I'm probably faster than ever, but I cannot ride a BMX bike to save my life anymore! I Rode at Plattekill and Snowshoe this year, but am getting bored with DHing....

Jud,
Goeddy was nat. # 1 in 12x in the N.B.L. in 1980.

And I am pretty sure Liggins was # 2 to Tomac in "84" in 16 cruiser.

Hi Mark, I was just talking with Jim Silloway, (my father in law) about you and your dad. I told him about this site, and he said to give a shout out to all you punks! He remembers most all of you....
We reminisced together about the eighties and traveling, and all the great people that were in BMX.

82' ABA Grands.
Cable and Eisenberg dicin'.


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Those end-of-the-year standings bring back some memories. Check out how tight the 16x standings were. I think the timing of one's birthday really had a large effect in some classes. I broke my collar bone at the Grands that year and couldn't race my cruiser main and DNQ in 20" (crashed busted collarbone).

84' Ame/ ABA Winternationals. Phoenix Az.
Bubba Hayes (SE) #131
Eric Garces (Red Line) #4
Greg Liggins (Hutch)
Timmy Taylor (San Diego) #170
Jon Anderson (Red Line) #15
Kiyomi Waller (San Diego, Co-Torker) #4
#2 no I.D.



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[ October 10, 2005, 12:29 PM: Message edited by: T Andrews ]

Bump

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that's a heck of a shot there JJOMASDS, jeez can your name be any longer JJ?

That pic's from the table of contents from an issue of BMX Plus.
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I have no idea why they would sometimes shrink down some of their best pics.

San Jose BMX,
What's your name? I've read some of your posts. How old are you? You raced us in this age bracket? Just curious. My dad used to work for the San Jose Mercury News back in the 60's.

[ November 13, 2005, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: JohnnyJohnson OMAS DirtSlinger ]

Kenny Fox,
I'm sure you would like reading this thread and would probably want to post something.

Johnny Johnson

Thanks JJ.. Ok your right,I did like reading this thread and here it goes my second post!Hey all
my name is Ken or "Kenny" Fox.Whichever you
guys prefer lol.I was born Sep. 68 which according
to JJ's query of the late 68 age group of amatuer
riders.You guys remember Digger Kalsow who raced
for factory Hutch?He also has an older sister that raced for factory CW.Her name was Debbie Kalsow?
If memory serves me right she was among the top
#5 riders for girls back then?Anyways if any of you
guys have any pictures from the winternationals here in chandler,az from 1979-1982 or the springnationals in grass valley,ca in 1980?Please
post any that you might have.Unfortunatley all my
pictures i had were lost years ago when my parents moved.:(Anyways happy new year all!!
talk to you all soon peace..
Ken Fox

Debbi Kalsow was super duper fast, fastest girl back in the day until cheri elliott came along and made all of us weep!!!!! I remember debbi came and stayed with us for a week or so and we went and raced a wednesday night race at Vineland, against the boys. I felt like i was at a national and the two of us smoked all of the teeneage boys that night! I remember my day telling me that if i raced that fast every weekend, none of the girls would ever beat me, funny huh!!!!
cheers
jen

hey jud,
i heard you were making doughnuts or something...
jen

Cool!
I wanted to start running donuts on my grips again.

Yum... the Krispe Kreme kind.

Krispe Kreme.... More like KRISPY CRACK!
I thought Red Bull was bad for you.

Hey Jen,
Byron said he was gonna call your brother Sal
when we talked on Christmas.
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WHO GOT THE BEST GATES IN OUR CLASS?

I'd say
1) Todd Henry (Robinson, Mongoose)
2) Rob Eisenberg (Schwinn)
3) Paul Addams (GT)

That call would make his day!!!!

He still has his old ZF-1 in his garage, all tricked out like the last day he raced it. He's got tons of cool stuff, its his own personal museum of sorts!

Let me know if you need the number!

This thread needs to be reborn!

Well....
almost 7 month later from the last time I said it.... again I repeat...

THIS THREAD NEEDS TO BE REBORN!

I agree with you JJ, I wasn't around here when this thread was alive, but Ive been reading it for an hour now..very cool. where is McDougal these days? didn't he race for cook bros. I seem to recall that. good luck with the rebirth.

Kiyomi Waller (2006 National #1 Elite Master a,k,a, Vet Pro)
saw Kelly McDougall riding motorcycles motocross at some spot
in So Ca. over the last few years.
Said he's recognized him immediately and is a big guy.
I saw him racing for Cook Bros and later Torker.
But McDougall was born in 1967. hahahaha!

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