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Mongoose frame, ooking for the exact model
diver02
post Nov 2 2009, 02:30 PM
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Hello from Germany,
I've got a mongoose frame, it looks like an Californian with the 82-88' dropouts and the serial number M6EE1482.
There are no gussets at the steering tube, but I don't know, what type it is. I suppose from 82...
I watched already the mongoose-site, but I cannot find the frame to this serial number

Could someone help me?

Many thanks and kind regards from Munich

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post Nov 2 2009, 03:28 PM
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Pics would help. It could be possible that it is a Blue Max, which were made by BMX Products and look very similar to Mongoose. They were sold in US military base and post exchange stores.
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post Nov 2 2009, 09:51 PM
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Its an 86.
If its Full 4130 its a California Pro.
If its Tri Moly its an Expert
If its all mild steel its a M1.
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post Nov 3 2009, 04:06 AM
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QUOTE (Racer @ Nov 2 2009, 08:51 PM) *
Its an 86.
If its Full 4130 its a California Pro.


That would make a nice rider.
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post Nov 3 2009, 01:02 PM
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[attachment=9258:mongoose.JPG][attachment=9258:mongoose.JPG]Hello,
many thanks for the infos!!
Here are the pics...
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Attached File  mongoose__2_.JPG ( 160.27K ) Number of downloads: 39
Attached File  mongoose.JPG ( 170.07K ) Number of downloads: 56
 
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post Nov 4 2009, 09:55 PM
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Well I dont think its the M1. Its either the Expert or Californian Im pretty sure.
If I had to guess I'd say the clues point to Californian.
But that's just an educated guess and I could be wrong.
No one seems to have weighed (on a quality scale) a Expert and California frame to tell the difference.
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post Nov 6 2009, 12:01 AM
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Thanks!! I also think it's a Californian.
What I wanna do now, is order a set of "Californian" stickers...
The frame is really in a good shape without any damages.

Kind regards to all

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post Nov 6 2009, 09:25 PM
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looks like you have a broken crank arm
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post Nov 9 2009, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE (diver02 @ Nov 6 2009, 06:01 AM) *
What I wanna do now, is order a set of "Californian" stickers...


I assume when you say you are ordering "californian stickers" you mean the "orange-fade-to-yellow" californian decals - well unfortunately they would be wrong for this frame.

If you are doing an 86 californian it would have the "red-outlined-blue" decals on it and a "glued-on" aluminium head badge.

Also the californian would have had chro-mo forks in 86 so remove them from the frame and the steerer tube should have "LUNG.I CR-MO" stamped on it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Here is the era of frame / decals / head badge I'm talking about :

(IMG:http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/86califrame.jpg)


Here is the stamping on the 86 cali forks :

(IMG:http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/86califorks.jpg)



Hope this helps (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 15 2009, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE (bobafettuk @ Nov 9 2009, 04:45 PM) *
I assume when you say you are ordering "californian stickers" you mean the "orange-fade-to-yellow" californian decals - well unfortunately they would be wrong for this frame.

If you are doing an 86 californian it would have the "red-outlined-blue" decals on it and a "glued-on" aluminium head badge.

Also the californian would have had chro-mo forks in 86 so remove them from the frame and the steerer tube should have "LUNG.I CR-MO" stamped on it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Here is the era of frame / decals / head badge I'm talking about :

(IMG:http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/86califrame.jpg)


Here is the stamping on the 86 cali forks :

(IMG:http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/86califorks.jpg)



Hope this helps (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



Hello,
thanks for this informations!! I checked the fork: it's stamped with "LUNG.I HI TEN"
And I discovered a little stamp "07" on each frame-dropouts.

Is the frame however a 86 Californian???

Greetz from Germany!
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post Nov 16 2009, 06:54 AM
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If the fork is HI TEN and it is original to the frame, then it is not a Californian. Probably an M1, but maybe an Expert? I don't know enough about Mongoose to know if the Expert had a Chromo fork or not.
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post Nov 16 2009, 01:40 PM
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This frame was made in the Merida factory in Tiawan (M=Merida) in 1986.

From the pictures you've posted it's obvious that you have a Hooligan frame with RockShox forks... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) oh, yeah... with a broken crank! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

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diver02
post Yesterday, 01:32 PM
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Hi guy's,
thanks a lot one more time! But apparently it's difficult to relocate the frame.
Well, I retired the (broken) cranks and these stickers...and it looks really nice. No rust, no dents or scratches. I'll clean it...and maybe start a restauration.
How much is the value of such a frame in the US?
I'm gonna post the new pics a soon the frame is polished.

Cheers from Germany
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post Today, 06:20 AM
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based on serial # its an 86 expert
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Waz...have u seen vintagemongoose Im sure they will back up what u say (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)




Hey Diver02 - Waz speak the truth mate! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drinks.gif)
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