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Posted by: Tom Erickson Sep 22 2006, 07:46 PM

Well I am from Minnesota originally but call Michigan home now. Every time I go to a track peolpe ask me about this track and that track which tells me that SE Michigan had a huge BMX community BITD. Who are the riders, where were the tracks, who is still racing.

Deanna can help I'm sure.

All I remember was 1982 Great Lakes National as an A Pro and getting totally Moto'd. Ted Carl and I traveled the 12 hours on Friday and drained all of my energy. Waterford was great then and is even better now.

Tell your stories, post pictures if you've got em. Maybe this thread will get to 100 pages too.

Sorry to my old friends in Minnesota but these guys in Michigan used to race as much as we did with more tracks.

[ September 22, 2006, 09:46 PM: Message edited by: Tom E ]

Posted by: jakerooni Sep 22 2006, 09:46 PM

My first ever experience with BMX was way back in the early to mid 80's I met a kid that raced. He told me to show up and watch sometime. There was this track in Grand Blanc on Dort HWY near Maple road. (It's a mini-storage now) I went and watched. It was probably the coolest thing I ever saw. I didn't own a bike at the time so I never got to ride it. But I used to go and watch all the time for a couple of summers. I never knew what that track was called. Or what sanction it was. I would love to know more about that track if anyone has any info on it.

Posted by: REDRIPPER Sep 22 2006, 09:56 PM

I raced at a track near Plainwell which was 15 miles north of Kalamazoo. I raced there between 77-80. It was a great place to race,even got a chance to run with Stu.

Posted by: Randy Sep 22 2006, 11:19 PM

quote:
I never knew what that track was called.
Stadium BMX, ABA, I believe this correct.

Ya know, just 10 minutes before logging in tonight I thought to myself, I should start another Michigan thread, them Minnesota guys have a thread a mile long...

I'll pull out the photos soon, for now lets compile the track master list, add what I missed.

Traverse City
Traverse City indoors
Charlevoix
Petoskey
Kaleva
Ludington
Cadillac
Oscoda
Escanaba
Marquette
Dafter
Newberry
Sault Ontario
Rudyard
Mio
Lansing, Jack Pine
Battle Creek
Benton Harbor
Muskegon
Wyoming
Kalamzoo, Nettle Downs
Plainwell
Hillsdale
Saginaw
New Baltimore
Bogie Downs/Bogie East
Waterford
Woodhaven

28 and counting....

Posted by: Keep_It_Warm Sep 23 2006, 05:33 AM

I raced from 1981 - 1984. Local to southeast Michigan only. Bogie Downs, Bogie East, Mt. Grampion, Waterford, Endless Summer.

My favorite track (maybe because it was the closest track for my parents to take us to) was Bogie East. I also enjoyed Endless Summer, but I can never remember for the life of me where that track was located. I want to say it was in Fraser or Roseville off Utica Road? Maybe Masonic?

I remember not liking Mt. Grampion at all. Only raced there a handfull of times.

My family has misplaced all photographs from that time period, so I have nothing to post, but I hope this thread takes off. Randy and Deanna have a wealth of information and pictures to share.

Tom

Posted by: hemidart1 Sep 23 2006, 06:31 AM

me racing at Kinross:


Charlevoix:


some more Kinross:


The boys at Dafter:



I'll scan more this week. I've got tons more

Al.

Posted by: Deanna Sep 23 2006, 09:54 AM

adding to the track list:

Stadium BMX in Inkster (ABA Track). This was an old furniture store we raced around twice for a longer track.

Crossroads indoor (ABA Track) and outdoor (NBL Track). Does anyone remember their outdoor track on the other side of US23? An Nbl national was held there back in the 80's. The outdoor track is now a miniature golf course and strip mall.

Endless Summer (ABA Track). I remember spending time there watching the RC cars race and riding in the skatepark.

USA BMX (ABA Track). It was at the corner of Dequinder and I696. It's turned into a industrial park now with a Bob Evans in front. I spent a lot of money playing their video games. Fun place to race and hang out.

Challenge Indoor down at exit 1 at the Michigan/Ohio border. The Wahl's used to run it and it was ABA.

Posted by: Randy Sep 23 2006, 09:56 AM

Me caring the flag @ Bogie Downs, 1-81



More flag waving, Stadium BMX, 2-82



David Fisher [who I wished was here] #68 and I #2 up in da UP/Marquette, 9-83



Ludington, 1982



[ September 23, 2006, 11:57 AM: Message edited by: Randy ]

Posted by: Randy Sep 23 2006, 10:03 AM

What would a Michigan thread be if not to show off snowbank endos?



Posted by: REDRIPPER Sep 23 2006, 03:45 PM

OMG I forgot about snowbank endos. Plant front wheel in snowbank and flip over handle bars,WHAT A BLAST.My freind broke a kneecap when he planted his front end into what he thought was a snowbank and it turned out to be a snow covered dirt pile.OWWWW

Posted by: tosborne Sep 23 2006, 06:44 PM

Challange 1 andlater 2 in Ottawa lake ,Fox medow farm NBL in Lambertvile indoor, Milian at the drag strip ,Adrian ,believe two,Hillsdale,Morenci and Saugatuct,forget the spelling.

Posted by: Kelly B Sep 23 2006, 07:27 PM

Oh man what a great topic. I'm not from michigan but I'm a big fan of it. One of my favorite riders and person is from michigan. I can hardly wait till he chimes in.

Posted by: Joe Dunn Sep 23 2006, 07:54 PM

Sorry for the poor quality of pics, I think I had a kodak 110.

First pic from Crossroads.



Next is from Stadium.



Next is also from Crossroads.



Last pic from USA.



I haven't had a chance to use this pic in awhile. I'm sure this rider will post some cool pics.



[ September 23, 2006, 09:56 PM: Message edited by: All Dunn ]

Posted by: Tom Erickson Sep 23 2006, 09:02 PM

This is great. Wow!! I can't believe how many tracks we used to have in Michigan. Great to see Tom O post as well as Randy. We should get you guys out and race sometime.

Love the pics. Keep em coming!!!

Posted by: Jeff V Sep 24 2006, 05:31 AM

In Southwest Mich there was also tracks in Benton Harbor, and a downhill track in Buchanan AKA Redbud. It was where their night MX track is now.

Posted by: Jeff V Sep 24 2006, 05:34 AM

All Dunn, do you have any better pics of Solan Foster on that red DY?

Posted by: TOMMY2WHEEL Sep 24 2006, 12:04 PM

I'm from SE MI. never got into racing, just side kicking my buddies at the park lol. after seeing this thread, kinda makes me want to start. ive done that endo thing into a snow pile too lol.

Posted by: Randy Sep 24 2006, 05:41 PM

1982 Waterford, ABA State finals, 2nd 17x. My taveling pal Mike Wells took 3rd, 11x I think.



Jumping out of the frame at the tire lined Kaleva track, 1983.


Posted by: Randy Sep 24 2006, 05:50 PM

1982 Grand Rapids, Me, Scot Towne and Kevin Nowack



[ September 24, 2006, 07:51 PM: Message edited by: Randy ]

Posted by: scottTowne Sep 24 2006, 10:19 PM

Yo! Randy, I love that photo! I'm riding a brass-plated CW cruiser in that photo and when I started racing again in '98 a dude brought it to the Wyoming (RIP) track to show me. It was part for part, identical to when I had it. I wish I had it now, but homie was not giving it up. Redripper, who are you? I'm from Plainwell. Born and raised, knowsayindog?

Posted by: Randy Sep 24 2006, 10:49 PM

sorry for spelling your name wrong, is nowack right, or nowak/nowac?

didn't I pass both of you in that next corner?

Posted by: mikemach Sep 25 2006, 06:34 AM

Unfortunately I don't have much to add except I raced at most of the above tracks. Did anyone mention the sand pit in Marquette? This entire thread is deja vu, even the pics. It is cool to see all the Michigan stuff, but I feel like we already did it.

The highlight last time was Randy's Bogie Downs story where he drove down on a school night from Traverse City.

Posted by: crowdaddy Sep 25 2006, 08:02 AM

I didn't move here to Michigan till 98 so I don't know anything about any olf tracks except one.

A neighbor recently told me about a old track here in Lapeer located north of town on M24. Not sure of the name but its behind some softball fields. I went to check it out and found the track is still there but is grown up with heavy weeds and small trees. The starting hill is still there and what appears to be the first turn birm. The old office building is currently used for storage and all of the bleachers are piled up in the woods near by.

Has anyone ever heard of this track?


Jeff
SDVBMX.COM

Posted by: Randy Sep 25 2006, 08:19 AM

I'll spin my yarn again but I rather see and hear from some others before I monopolize another Michigan thread.

Posted by: hemidart1 Sep 25 2006, 08:49 AM

I'll scan some more pics today.

My favourite track was Charlevoix and it's super fast downhill. It made the first corner a little hairy!

My most memorable race was the Northern State Championships in Traverse City.

Northern Michigan was a great place to race bmx back in the day.

Al.

Posted by: REDRIPPER Sep 25 2006, 03:10 PM

Hey Scott Towne? I was born and raised in Otsego(GO BULLDOGS:)) I raced at the Plainwell track from 77-80(bike got stolen:() And I quit racing after that.

Posted by: REDRIPPER Sep 25 2006, 03:27 PM

Oh yea Scott my name is Scott Dalrymple

Posted by: BMX DOG DAD Sep 25 2006, 04:57 PM

How about the shoot outs that they used to have in Mich? Start on Friday afternoon and go through sunday and race what maybe ten times? Waterford, Crossroads, Boggie East, Challange, USA?, And i know there were others. Racing was a blast back then. Anyone remember the Mich indoor champonships that were held outdoors? There were so many others, maybe the BMX Professor will be able to remember! Keep them comming!

Posted by: Deanna Sep 25 2006, 07:05 PM

Lapeer was an ABA track in the 80's. I'm not sure when it shut down but I have plenty of pics from the nationals held there. Very flat/long/dust bowl track. I have driven by it plenty of times but could never figure out exactly where it sat on M-24.

Posted by: Deanna Sep 25 2006, 07:13 PM

quote:
maybe the BMX Professor will be able to remember!
Who is the BMX Professor?

I remember racing from track to track like you listed.

We just had a memorial race for Kelly Burnette the old gate starter out at Waterford.

Some of the people that attended that you guys may remember are:

Solan Foster
Heather and Shevona McKenzie
Debbie DeBacker (Gary's Mom)
Tom McMillan (Announcer BITD)
Melanie Cline
Rita Martuscelli (Frank's Mom)
Ed Burnette
Baird's (Another gate starter from Bogie Downs/Very Tall guy)
Kingsbury's
Colegrove's
Tushis (Colony Bike show owner)
Bob Chadwick (80's State Commissioner when the state went NBL)
Wally and Sherry Borczka (Their dad ran the Tracker bike team)
Bart and Brad Childers
Jack "The Snake" Kern
Tom Charavelli (Colony bike shop rider)
DesJardins, Gary and Robyn
Tammy Spaven
Jamson Hendler (Schwinn and Slingshot Factory Rider)
Johnny Tomac. I talked to him, he is doing well and donated his jersey for the memorial race.

We are going to have a banquet sometime this winter. More than likely at a hall that Waterford can get for us. I'll start another thread when the time is near.

[ September 25, 2006, 09:14 PM: Message edited by: Deanna ]

Posted by: BMX DOG DAD Sep 25 2006, 08:01 PM

The BMX Professor is Ken Spring Nicknamed "Super K" back then, by Kevin Collins (sp) Dad! He ran for Power Rider and Reggies out of Toledo and then Bandito.

Posted by: tedr Sep 25 2006, 09:19 PM

Boy I can remember some of those old tracks. I usually just read the posts but I can think of a few to add. Here are some more and maybe some repeats?


Edwardsburg.
Cascade - GR
Jenison - GR
Astro Speedway Skatepark - GR

Cascade also had some indoor cement races and one with kitty litter on the ice rink and wooden jumps. That race was unique.

Kalamazoo fairgrounds indoor cement
Muskegon
Wayland 80s
Flashpoint Wayland 90s
Big Rapids
Mount Pleasant

Mason indoor just south of Lansing

Does anybody remember the indoor track at the old bumper factory in Flint on Dort Hwy?

Ted

Posted by: Deanna Sep 25 2006, 09:24 PM

quote:
Does anybody remember the indoor track at the old bumper factory in Flint on Dort Hwy
Stadium BMX it was ABA. Randy answered that question on the first page.

I still can't remember a Ken Spring and I rode for Reggies. The name just doesn't ring a bell. Where was he from in Michigan?

The only person I remember riding for Bandito Factory was Heather McKenzie.

Could he have been on their Co-Factory team?

I'm just drawing a blank I think.

Posted by: Tom Erickson Sep 26 2006, 08:03 AM

Is this the Ken Spring that races for Kappa today? 30-34 class and Cruiser?

He lives in Either Tennessee or somewhere South East of Michigan now. Ken we need you to chime in!!

[ September 26, 2006, 10:05 AM: Message edited by: Tom E ]

Posted by: Wildman Sep 26 2006, 11:33 AM

Hey Guys, I can't help but chime in, I know Buds was in Indiana, but only by a couple miles! I couldn't say that we had a majority of MI riders, but we had a pretty good percentage. lets see, I know I will miss a bunch
Scott Towne
Brent Walk
Randy Eason
Gary Payne
Richie Dressen
The Armstrongs
Jeff Starbucks
These were some of the regulars, then at the special events we saw
Deanna
John Tomac
Kevin Collins
Tony Luke
Everybody I missed, Shout out and remind me.

Wildman

Posted by: scottTowne Sep 26 2006, 12:28 PM

Scott, I remember you. That's awesome. As for the Lapeer track, I raced there one time at the ABA Nationals in '84. I somehow made the pro cruiser main and was in third behind Brent and Brian Patterson, with "U No" way back in fourth after some kind of NorCal related tangle up earlier in the lap. On the last straight, ol' Crazy Ronnie passed me like my chain came off and I missed out on the $50 or whatever. I really needed the money, too, because earlier in the weekend Jeff Venekamp threw his helmet through the window of my Subaru. Remember that, Jeff? I remember Kevin Nowak coming over to break the news to me "Uh, Scott....".
I'm sorry I missed the Kelly Burnette Memorial. He was a great guy and it would have been good to see all those folks.
One more thing, John Keirnan, we are still planning a Buds BMX reunion, but it looks like it's going to have to be in early '07.

Posted by: BMX DOG DAD Sep 26 2006, 07:20 PM

Yes it is the same Ken Spring that now lives in Nashville and races 30-34 for KAPPA. Deanna, Ken rode for Reggies when they first started their national team. Along with Danny Kunkel, and I think, Kelly Merriman was also on that team. He did ride for factory Bandito along with JD Finny and Matt Hadden. He traveled lot with the Wahl's and the Merrimans in caravan. He is a few years younger then you,

Posted by: Deanna Sep 26 2006, 10:30 PM

Ha, that is funny. I know Ken Spring or atleast I think I know who he is if I'm thinking about the right guy. Never knew his ties to Michigan or Reggies.

I'll have to chat with him about it next time I see him.

Scott, The event turned out real good considering there was only a week to plan for it. We missed you! I'll let you and everyone know if we get something together during the winter. Many expressed an interest to doing this.

Wildman, another to add to the list would be Troy Raatz. I've been chatting with him the last few days, sounds like we may have him back on the BMX track soon!

Posted by: Wildman Sep 27 2006, 08:10 AM

Thanks Deanna, add Bob Cote, and of course Jamson Hendler, There were two brothers from Edwardsburg that were fast, can't remember their names. WM

Posted by: Bmx Prof Sep 27 2006, 11:22 AM

I will certainly come back to a gathering of these old school riders. A flash from the past indeed.

Clarifications... same Ken Spring, rode for Power Rider, co-jmc, then for the Reggies national team with Kevin Collins, Kelle Meeriman, Rich Garcia ... list goes on... we have a pic of use with the trophy somewhere around my folks house. Then on factory Bandito for a year and a half (almost two) years. And man do I miss factory sponsorships like that. I used to get a box of goodies atleast every other week, sometimes once a week. I mean Kappa is great and all, but...

Back then when you would come off the track at the nationals kids would take your number plates, pad sets, visors... so bandito would keep us in a steady supply, along with grips, t-shirts, goggles. It was crazy fun.

I've run into a bunch of the Michigan riders in the last couple of years, some that I remember and others that were at all of the same races but I was younger. I'm living in Nashville now, my folks are still in the toledo area.

Where was the USA track...utica?

I haven't heard anything mentioned about the adrian track... my dad announced there and at challange. I remember a very long table top there.

I always dug the ypsi track, had a funky layout with a 90 degree turn almost out of the gate. Lisa Motley and I were talking about that at evansville. Rob Tatro rode her brother up the wall at the ypsi track, and later that night when we raced at challenge, her brother punted Tatro into the cow pasture in the first turn (they would occassionally open up the doors) ... funny stuff.

Which track had the bridge, you rode over, then cam back through... was that Lansing?

I think I rode all of the tracks mentioned, with the exception of the U.P.

But I raced every week at:

crossroads
ypsi
challenge
bogie (east and downs)
USA


Those were fun times. My father would pick me up from school, I'd do my home work on the way to the track, race, then sleep in the car on the way home. We have lots of picks from those days, but none are scanned... perhaps the old man will get one and do it.

[ September 27, 2006, 02:17 PM: Message edited by: Bmx Prof ]

Posted by: Bmx Prof Sep 27 2006, 12:21 PM

Anybody recall the indoor championships

that were held at some state fairgrounds outdoors?

Two straights, one turn, some wooden jumps?

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Sep 29 2006, 02:00 PM

Does a Prof have more knowledge than a Teacher? Just kidding, last time I saw Ken was at Lay Indoor. How are you, Ken? I think that some memories we all share from those days. Remember the Tom Debois(Matt & Chris Cook's dad) short cuts, they always took longer. A couple of other tracks were: Fenton Lakes, Otsego County, Hobby Track in Ironwood, Newberry to name a few we hit on any given weekend. 3 Tracks on a Saturday was and every week event. Some names from the past: Rodney Freeman, Matt McCullach, Gary Debacker, Brian Lippens, John Tomac, Tammy Balaz, Darcy Ainsworth, Wendy Winters, Kristine Miller, Heather McKenzie. All of these names helped to make Michigan Bmx in the 80's Great fun. Thanks for the trip. Tommy

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Sep 29 2006, 04:03 PM

Anybody remember March 1981 Pontiac Silverdome Race? I remember the snow and that Stu Thomsen designed the track for the NBL.. What a great race. There were over 10000 people in the stands at all times. Anthony Sewell and Harry Leary won the Pro races. I think that Darcy Ainsworth, from Mich, won the girls classs (Powder Puff), and Keven "Special K" Collins won his class. I can't think of anybody from the area who won. Just another memory from Michigan Racing. Tommy

Posted by: Deanna Sep 30 2006, 12:04 AM

I'm pretty darn sure that Darcy was in my class. I ended up winning the 10-11 girls class that weekend. Can't remember how Darcy finished. Sure would be good to catch up with her and her family. Her brothers name was Lance.

I have tracked down many of the names you spoke of Tommy. We just had somewhat of a reunion during Kelly Burnette's memorial race a few weekends ago. I posted something earlier in this thread.

We were trying to track down Kelly and You but no one had any contact information.

Posted by: MOJOLATER Oct 1 2006, 12:07 AM

I grew up in Haslett and went to school with two brothers that raced Jim and Jon Cain. would be about 45,46 today

Posted by: Randy Oct 1 2006, 12:15 AM

Don't forget, there were two Silverdome races. I attended the 2nd one in October 1981. I know that Stu designed that track, did he do the one in March too?

Greg Hill won the pro class in his debut for GT.

1st turn, me leading my cruiser class.


Posted by: Bmx Prof Oct 1 2006, 07:47 PM

I don't know about any 'short-cuts', but I do recall him driving like 90-100 as a result of us being late to races. All of those names were blasts from the past.

We would show up at the races pop open the trunk and have like 6 kids and 8 bikes in the back of the ranchero. funny stuff.

Tommy, I heard that you occassionally show up at races and kill it. Nice. How is Doc? What is Kelly up to these days?

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Oct 2 2006, 03:38 AM

Remember how Doc had like 6 bikes in the trunk of the Caddy? Every thing was taken apart and we had to put it back together like a puzzle. He is doing well, thanks for asking. Yes the rumors are true, I have justed showed up at some race and rode. I just ride a cruiser now, don't know about "kill it", but I do OK. I drug Kelly with me last time. She ended up racing the 16 year olds. She didn't do so bad. No dirt samples went home.

Posted by: Wildman Oct 2 2006, 09:31 AM

In an earlier post, I tried to remember brothers from Edwardsburg, They were the Hoovers, one of them was Brett. WM

Posted by: scottTowne Oct 2 2006, 10:21 AM

BMX Prof, I believe the "outdoor state championship" you are thinking of was at the Kalamazoo fairgrounds, where the indoor track was. The track was kind of goofy, but that was a fun race. It was spring of 1983.
TedR, I can't believe you mentioned the Cascade indoor race on the ice with kitty litter. that was a wild one. Apparently the kitty litter almost destroyed the Zamboni and "never again" was the law laid down from the ice arena. Brett Hoover. All these names. Being from the West side, I didn't race or see all the East side people as much, but I traveled enough to interact with them. This website is amazing in that we are all reunited in a way. I still can't get over John "Wildman" Keirnan being on this board!

Posted by: BMX DOG DAD Oct 2 2006, 12:49 PM

Tommy, we should get together some time and reminisce. It's good to hear that Doc is doing fine. He's a tough old coot! Me I'm just getting old!Tell all I said Hi. Terry!

Posted by: BMX DOG DAD Oct 2 2006, 12:50 PM

Tommy, we should get together some time and reminisce. It's good to hear that Doc is doing fine. He's a tough old coot! Me I'm just getting old!Tell all I said Hi. Terry!

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Oct 2 2006, 07:21 PM

But getting older means smarter, right? Thats what I tell myself. Anyway, Does anybody else remember (year 1981) Lansing had its own Mag. published for the track. It had about 28 pages, showed how to use hand signals in the street. It had tire maintence and gear ratios. Larry McWueen was Track Director back then. Capital Area Supercross. That track raced in any weather. I remember more rain races than sunny ones.

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Oct 2 2006, 07:29 PM

Typo: Larry McQueen was the Track Director. Sorry about that. Terry I am going to try to get to Lay on Sat. Good reunion time. Frank Balaz and kids Tammy & Frank jr. Tammy has kids that race and she has got out there a few times.

Posted by: Deanna Oct 2 2006, 07:51 PM

I saw the Balaz family at the Waterford National it was great to see everyone.

I forgot to get Tammy's information so I had no way to get a hold of her to get her up for the state race and memorial for Kelly Burnette. As I said in another thread I'll be there on Saturday weather permitting.

Larry McQueen was jailed and later murdered in prison. Apparently he was convicted of molestation. I don't know if it happened at the BMX track or not. I do know he didn't last very long in jail.

I have a few of those published magazines for Lansing. Tom Soule was a regular contributor.

Posted by: Deanna Oct 2 2006, 07:52 PM

I saw the Balaz family at the Waterford National it was great to see everyone.

I forgot to get Tammy's information so I had no way to get a hold of her to get her up for the state race and memorial for Kelly Burnette. As I said in another thread I'll be there on Saturday weather permitting.

Larry McQueen was jailed and later murdered in prison. Apparently he was convicted of molestation. I don't know if it happened at the BMX track or not. I do know he didn't last very long in jail.

I have a few of those published magazines for Lansing. Tom Soule was a regular contributor.

Posted by: Deanna Oct 2 2006, 09:14 PM

Sorry about the double post. Darn computer got hung up a bit there!

Posted by: BMX DOG DAD Oct 2 2006, 09:20 PM

1981? That's the year the (now) BMX Prof. started racing. Got fourth at the Waterford Nat. Just after turning Novice. And he still hasn't done a whole lot better!

Posted by: Deanna Oct 2 2006, 09:28 PM

Tommy,
I was wondering, do you have contact information for the Gregory's? I wouldn't mind swinging by and seeing them on Saturday.

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Oct 3 2006, 07:02 AM

Deanna, I havn't seen them in a long time, and I don't think Franko lives anywhere near here anymore. I'll see what I can do about getting that info before Sat. Should only take a phone call. I see Rob Spencer logged in, if he is the one from Toledo he might know also.

Posted by: Bmx Prof Oct 3 2006, 12:23 PM

Deanna, Franko got into a pretty bad car accident about 2-3 years ago. He wrapped is car around a telephone pole. I know at the time he was in pretty bad shape, I haven't heard much since. But you can call Reggies bike shop and I'd bet that they have contact info. He keeps in touch with Rick and Jim Izbinski.

Hmmm, haven't gotten better... interesting. I had 4 national wins last year. Zip it old man!

Tommy, how do you remember all of that? I traveled with you all of the time, and don't remember half of this stuff.

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Oct 3 2006, 04:51 PM

Prof. if you remember, my dad always had a camera and was taking pictures. I have thousands of them, and can look back into the past with them. Did you ever have a picture that you could just ollk at and remember the whole day. I can do that with most of mine from the BMX world. What a gift. Like, I have a picture of me and Kelly holding trophies dated August 1982. I remember it was at Waterford Oaks, it was an ABA race, Kelly won 6 girls, Lisa Vonderahe beat Deanna, Clarence Perry won Pro Cruiser(I got his # Plate) I remember in 1983 WO went total NBL.

Posted by: Bmx Prof Oct 3 2006, 05:18 PM

I see Lisa quite a bit these days. I hung out with her at the grands some, evansville, and a couple of other races this year. She married Drew Motley (35-39 cruiser and expert) and they live in FL. I gave her a hard time at the grands because she got a huge then coasted the second and third straights, took two pedals going into the turn... barely winning.

I have a bunch of pics as well, but I don't get to see most them with any frequency as they are piled away in my parents house.

What bike are you riding these days? Have you clipped in yet?

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Oct 3 2006, 06:13 PM

Do old slow guys need to clip in? That is for the riders who are out there trying to go faster than everyone else. Not interested. I thing that I will stay with the old school equipment. Besides, clips are supposed to help you out of the gate, right? Ever see me loose that battle? I may have not been as fast as the others in my class, but they always had to catch me to beet me. LOL

Posted by: BMX DOG DAD Oct 3 2006, 08:28 PM

Tom, I don't know of anyone that had more fun BITD then Doc and I. I know that you guy's had a lot of fun but, I'm not sure that you had more fun then we did! BDD!

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Oct 4 2006, 05:49 AM

Talk about fun, I remember the Saturday that Dad, Kelly, Mike & Ed Carr and me hit 4 races. How many places could you goto 4 different track in one day? Michigan had so many great places to race. Oh Ya I have a JMC and a Staats Cruiser that I am deciding between which one to ride. My Staats is faster but the JMC is a JMC. I bought it from Bratch Webster last year.

Posted by: Vonderahe Oct 8 2006, 09:42 PM

BMX Prof , OUCH. Did I coast that much?

Posted by: Larry33 Oct 9 2006, 05:50 AM

Hey, glad to hear some people from Plainwell!! My parents were the ones who started that track, so I raced there quite a bit. We were always trying to fix that first turn that the heavy equipment guys cut too sharp.

How about Pioneer Park, West of Kalamazoo ... the "mud hole" that was suspiciously close to an outhouse ... that was some racin'!

I had posted somewhere else here about that indoor Grand Rapids race on "ice"/kitty litter ... that was wild. And that there's more than one or two people here who raced it!

The Plainwell SE Classic where the SE crew brought a proto STR-1 - and we all got to meet and ride w/Stu, PK, OM, Rod Beckering ... that was such a great day.

Oh, what about that track in Battle Creek ... anyone race there? ... these are all pretty Old places.

Posted by: Wildman Oct 10 2006, 08:18 AM

I remember Pioneer park, I took my son and his friend up there to race. To call it a track was to use the word loosely,some areas it was more of a cowpath. There was a little guy racing there, that came to be known as the famous Scott Towne. So the trips up into Michigan were worthwhile because now I call Scott my friend. WM

Posted by: Tom Erickson Oct 10 2006, 09:04 PM

Hey guys the Minnesota bloggers have noticed this thread finally. They are speculating that we cannot get this thread as high as thiers. What do you think?

Posted by: Mark Conley Oct 10 2006, 09:22 PM

Oh, we know your here...

All good though, it's all good!

Posted by: Wildman Oct 11 2006, 11:26 AM

I just remembered a little more about Pioneer park that you Michiganders might find interesting. My son's friend that went P park with us was named Jim Berry, after back to Elkhart from P park one sunday, his dad and I started talking about driving all that way to race BMX. I said that i would like to start a track locally and jim's dad said "I have this field down the road and I will help you." If you haven't guessed by now, Jims dads name was Bud Berry, and as they say, the rest is history. Wildman

Posted by: Randy Oct 11 2006, 01:30 PM

Great to read the stories amd memories but, am I the only thats gonna post photos in this thread?

If'n you don't know how, email them to me, I'll post what you have.

rcfromtc@chartermi.net

Posted by: Bmx Prof Oct 11 2006, 01:34 PM

Lisa, Yes. But I believe you are still #1... so what do I know?

Posted by: REDRIPPER Oct 11 2006, 03:38 PM

Hey Larry33 I raced at the track in Plainwell. Did you by chance ever take any pics?? I raced with my freind John Dussia. I remeber when the SE Team came and kicked everyones butt.

Posted by: Chris S Oct 13 2006, 10:24 AM

The only track I raced in Michigan was Challenge. I was a regular there for a couple years and didn't get to really travel to other tracks, but I love how people like to complain about it, but yet they were all there as soon as the weather got bad. I went in the early 80's to watch my cousin race there and I was hooked from that point on.

Posted by: LouieMI Oct 14 2006, 08:31 PM

Hey Randy,

Where are all the riders from up OUR way?

I have do have some photos to share, are you able to attach or do you have link them to another site?

Louie
Charlevoix, Petoskey, Traverse City, Ect 80-83

Posted by: Randy Oct 14 2006, 10:15 PM

Louie!

I have a cd for you. I'm still working on having the other stuff transfered. Yes, I'm very slow. Walgreens video transfer is junk, I just found a new guy.

yes, photos posted here have to be hosted elsewhere, I can do it for you or put them on your website and copy them over.

call me.

Posted by: Keep_It_Warm Oct 15 2006, 04:38 AM

Well, as I've said MANY times on this site: My family no longer has any pictures of my brother or I from our racing years (81-84), so I have no pictures to post. But this picture is dam n close.

....this is roughly 1979 or 1980. Just prior to getting into BMX. My parents farm in Almont, Michigan. Yours truely on the right:

http://imageshack.us

Posted by: Keep_It_Warm Oct 15 2006, 04:40 AM

My parents saved a few big boxes of my trophies as well:

http://imageshack.us

Posted by: Keep_It_Warm Oct 15 2006, 04:46 AM

The shirt I used to race in. We never had head to toe gear: it was this shirt, Levi's, and Vans w/ JT Racing gloves:

http://imageshack.us


And here's a sign that I begged my dad to make for me with his new saw back in the very early 80's: HUTCH on a piece of 120-year old barnwood from the barn in the picture a couple posts above this one:

http://imageshack.us


....and that's ALL I've got, folks. But I wanted totry to contribute some pictures to the thread.

Tom

[ October 15, 2006, 06:48 AM: Message edited by: Keep_It_Warm ]

Posted by: Andy Spurling Oct 15 2006, 08:38 AM

I had a few people on my team back then from Michigan. Walt Szegda and his daughter Nina. Andrew Soule and some girl from Walled Lake...... don't remember her name.

Posted by: tosborne Oct 15 2006, 06:21 PM

BMX teacher do not forget oct 28th chili race vintage mom dad classes Frank Balaz sees he will attend. Spenser , Cris S, Doyle try to attend''.

Posted by: Bmx Prof Oct 16 2006, 06:47 AM

Hey Oz... are you still racing? I was certain that I'd see you in Evansville or Nashville, heck I even made it up to Lansing.

Who is Chris S? and who is your cousin? Ken Spring here.

Posted by: Chris S Oct 16 2006, 10:07 AM

Ken my name is Chris Schubert and I raced in 85' and 86'. My cusin is Doug Felkey, but he wasn't racing anymore when I finally got the chance to start.

tosborn, myself and another friend that used to race at Challenge, Chris Thie are going to try and make it out to watch. We came out a couple of years ago and met up with Rob Spencer to check out the indoor track at Lay.

Posted by: Bmx Prof Oct 18 2006, 07:45 AM

Right on, how is Doug? I used to race with him all the time. He was on our Power Rider team. I think he stopped about the time the power rider team stopped. I think he was getting more into skateboards and girls at that time.

Posted by: Bmx Prof Oct 18 2006, 12:07 PM

...and I mean REALLY, I didn't even now that they had bicycles in 'minne-snow-ta' let alone BMX racing and memories. How do they have like 2000 posts?

Posted by: Chris S Oct 18 2006, 07:52 PM

Ken, to tell a long story short after my grandpa died and his grandma died who were married to each other, we lost touch years ago. But, a few weeks ago I ran into Doug's older brother at open practice at Red Bud MX track in Buchanan Michigan and he told me Doug is doing well. I should see his brother in the next week or two at open practice at Red Bud.

Posted by: Mark Conley Oct 18 2006, 08:05 PM

Prof-

quote:
...and I mean REALLY, I didn't even now that they had bicycles in 'minne-snow-ta' let alone BMX racing and memories. How do they have like 2000 posts?
cuz half of them talk about stuff, like, do you want to hang out later, I'm getting my nails done today...

Posted by: Bmx Prof Oct 19 2006, 09:38 AM

I see... well, want to hand out after I get my nails done?

Kidding.

How was the get together? who showed up?

Posted by: Chris S Oct 24 2006, 07:14 AM

This needs bumped. Any other good Michigan racing stories?

Posted by: Tom Erickson Oct 24 2006, 07:45 AM

Since I am a Michigan rider now and was a Minne-snow-ta rider back in the 1980's I can explain that thread.

I started a thread three years ago that went for about 80 pages on the same topic. I was shocked that so many of the old school guys are still watching BMX from afar.

We used to have a great race organizer back then. Jack Doherty was his name and was the founder of Midwest BMX. He would travel from track to track racing every weekend both Saturday and Sunday. All the riders within 3 hours of Minneapolis would travel to the events and make a big race. Even though these were mostly single point races they would turn out the top experts that raced Nationals and Pros too. This ran from 1980-1983 until Jack was recruited to join the ABA in Pheonix. He is retired now living in Phoenix still.

There are about 10 active guys on that thread including myself.

I started this thread hoping to generate more contacts in Michigan since I live here now. I would love to create the kind of organization that Jack did back in 1980 for us in Michigan. The local scene is so poor that we need a change. With all the tracks operating the same times and the NBL system not really supporting local racing like the ABA, it is not good for the sport. New kids need to see the Experts racing. Other threads have discussed the issues with the TV BMX Supercross being too much for new riders. I disagree unless the local tracks are operating on a low rider base without the National riders showing up.

Well the Old School riders like all that have posted here can give back to our sport. Get involved with a track or team and help out. It's fun even to volunteer at a race.

The Minnesota guys posted some pics from the Colesium races from 1983-84. Does anyone have any good stories from those events. I can say that the manager of the fair grounds still remembers those races and felt that they were a success for the fair grounds. Does anyone have good pics?

Posted by: Wildman Oct 28 2006, 08:43 AM

I guess all of the MI BITD racers are working and don't have time to contribute. maybe this will get us back on page one. Wildman

Posted by: bike peddler Oct 28 2006, 05:58 PM

We raced the southern part of the state as well as northern Ohio and Indiana from 80-93 or 94.

Some of the places we hit often were, Binder Park Battle Creek, Horton (near Jackson), Hillsdale, Elkhart, Toledo Speedway, Toledo Airport, Challange, Milan, Crossroads, Bogie Downs, Kalamazoo Indoor, Plainwell, Jackpine, Marx BMX in Holt, Wyoming, Ludington, Traverse City, Grampion Mtn, Waterford, Lapeer, and Richfield.

There was also an indoor track in Lansing that was on cemet that had mattreses on the wall along where the first corner was. I also remember a one day race on a temporary track in Saline.

I too remember the track at the K-zoo fairgrounds outside on the horse racing track with wood jumps. There was another race at the Kellogg Center that was so muddy you could hardly get around the track.

We also raced most of the early races held at the State fairgrounds Colisium.

The track in Horton was a great downhill track that tons of fast people raced at. I believe it was Todd Kingsburys home track.

There was also a track at the fairgrounds in Adrian.

I'm sure I'm forgetting some.

I still have all my old ABA news papers from back then packed away. I'll see if I can find them. I'll also look through the old pictures to see what I can find. My Dad took tons of photos.

I will post later on some of the fast people back then.

Posted by: REDRIPPER Oct 28 2006, 06:35 PM

Anyone have pics from the Plainwell BMX track from 77-79??

Posted by: Tom Erickson Oct 28 2006, 07:14 PM

Great Brian we all want to see those pics.

Do you guys remember what years the MI State Fair Grounds had races?

Posted by: bike peddler Oct 28 2006, 07:35 PM

The State Fair had a national in 83 or 84. The Colisium Classic I believe in 80 or 81. They held the state finals in 80 or 81. They also had an ABA national in 95. It is a great venue for an indoor event.

I've got video footage of the 95 event. I believe I've got most of the pro races from the Sat. national.

I've still got the BMX Action that covered the Colisium Classic somewhere. I'll try to track it down and post some pics of the race coverage.

Posted by: borntooloose Oct 28 2006, 07:39 PM

I went to the Kellog's race with rich xyothimer

Posted by: bike peddler Oct 28 2006, 07:42 PM

Jim did rich have a brother Marty? I think I may have raced him and was from Ohio.

Posted by: BC34c Oct 29 2006, 09:51 PM

HI guys, MY name is Bruce Cascadden and I raced for about 3yrs "back then". I raced at the mio track,Traverse City outdoor track and indoor(williamsburg),grand blanc indoor(still remember those big anthills with no rythum),lansing indoor(cement with the bed mattresses on the wall,wood jumps). It was just me and my brother(ken) and my best friend Scott Kowalkowski(the same guy that later went on to play football with the Detroit Lions). We had a great time back then but I have to say this past summer has been the most fun of all. I decided to take my 8yr old son(Brendon) and my 6yr old daughter(Jaiden) to our local track for the 1st race of the year. They loved it and after a couple of weeks watching I decided it was time to drag the old GT out of the rafters and hit the track myself. We ended up going to the state qualifiers and the state championships, where Jaiden got 1st, Brendon got 2nd, and the old man tried out my helmet on one of the paved corners.(8th). My wife even raced locally in girls cruisers on weeks that she wasn't volenteering as track helper,scorer. I will try to find some of my old school pics to post. Good to hear some of these old michigan stories on here. P.S. Randy, I have gotta get ahold of you one of these days to check out some of your pics and bikes. I still have someones old looptale pk.ripper. I believe it's J.J. longton's old bike, I bought it from his nephew.(90 bucks,with 2 boxes of parts and pants and jersey,LOL). I also have a 2004 and a 2005 pk ripper,2004 assassin.

Posted by: Randy Oct 29 2006, 10:29 PM

Hey Bruce. Your name rings a bell ever so slightly.

Were did you get back into racing? At the T.C. track? I'll assume you ran into J.J. as his kids are really into it. I stay in touch with J.J. and a few others from the old days. Give me a ring sometime.

Randy

Posted by: BC34c Nov 7 2006, 10:24 PM

We raced the Traverse City track weekly and hit all the state qualifiers(except midlands, we were busy) and hit waterford for the state championships. Tc is going to have a qualifier next summer, I'll let ya know when I get the date for it. Ok where's all the rest of the Michigan guys out there????? We need some more pics.

Posted by: Joe Dunn Nov 8 2006, 08:47 PM

I found this old newspaper article. Anybody remember Brian Barlow ?


Posted by: Joe Dunn Nov 8 2006, 08:53 PM

Another pic, somebody had mentioned the dust bowl on 24 in Lapeer.


Posted by: Joe Dunn Nov 8 2006, 09:07 PM

Pic of plaque from ABA nat in Detroit 1984.


Posted by: Rob Spencer Nov 9 2006, 07:21 PM

I have one of those Detroit plaques. I got it after I didn't transfer out of my quarter. I got my head handed to me by Richie and Darrell, what a shocker. Lol

Posted by: Deanna Nov 9 2006, 07:28 PM

Joe,
I have that same exact article of Brian. Speaking of Brian I tried to track him down for Kelly's memorial race. He was working a few years back for Pacific and is now living on the east coast somewhere and running a motocross shop. I believe he is one of the owners. Never was able to track him down though.

Posted by: Wildman Nov 10 2006, 07:56 AM

Good to see this thread back on page one. WM

Posted by: Joe Dunn Nov 10 2006, 10:10 AM

quote:
I got it after I didn't transfer out of my quarter
Rob I must be a year younger. I got smoked in my semi by Bubba Hayes, John Tomac (who bounced off of me in the first corner) Cheri Elliot's brother and JT Taylor. Only pic I have was in staging just before the semi. I'm the one who's 50lbs. lighter and 6" shorter.



[ November 10, 2006, 11:18 AM: Message edited by: All Dunn ]

Posted by: Joe Dunn Nov 10 2006, 08:21 PM

Anyone remember USA ? I have only one memory of the track. I was racing 16x, they had combined the novices with x. Before the main a novice rider says to me "its not fair for experts to race with novices, so I going to take you out" I thought yeah whatever. So were going down the long downhill first straight. The guys jumps off his bike just before the first jump and tackles me. My first instinct was to get up and get going but the guy had ahold of my back wheel. After pulling a couple of times the guy won't let go. So I drop-kicked the guy in the head. He let go.

Can't remember TO's name, he asked me not to come back. Said I was a poor sport and the guy was just goofing around.

Here's the plaque from that race, don't know why I still have it. Not sure why they gave it too me.


Posted by: Deanna Nov 11 2006, 10:04 AM

Bill Versache ran USA Bmx. I remember that track well. Brian Colegrove, myself and Billy Versache raced for their little team. We wore these handmade uniforms with Red, White and Blue in them.



I don't know why the picture came out so weird. Double exposure I suppose. I don't have any pictures of USA Bmx but the uniforms should bring back some memories.

Posted by: Wildman Nov 26 2006, 03:18 PM

Michigan riders who raced at Buds BMX. Chris Newman! How could I forget Chris?? WM

Posted by: jwahl Nov 26 2006, 07:57 PM

I remember racing at the Stadium indoor track...It was a real narrow building. Was there "another" stadium indoor? I raced at another indoor that was in a huge building and had a wooden starting hill on to a concrete stretch and finally onto dirt. the rest of the track was dirt.
These are great memories!

Posted by: msalyers Nov 27 2006, 10:10 AM

those uniforms scream "evil knevel". had to say that.
mike

Posted by: Tom Erickson Nov 27 2006, 08:50 PM

Who can tell me what track was in Kalamazoo and where was it located?

Posted by: scottTowne Nov 29 2006, 12:29 AM

Brian Barlow was the Man! Way ahead of his time as far as being an all-around freestyle rider and kick *** racer. Wildman, what is with the Chris Newman reference? did he show up here? I couldn't find it...

Posted by: scottTowne Nov 29 2006, 12:32 AM

also, the Kalamazoo track was at the Kalamazoo County fairgrounds. The semi-permenent track was in one of the buildings and that State Championship race was on the horse-track. The Plainwell track was about 15 minutes north of Kalamazoo and ran from June 1978 until October 1985. Same folks ran both tracks at various times.

Posted by: Bmx Prof Nov 29 2006, 07:42 PM

I remember going up to the USA track with Almroth. He would always go off with Dugan for 'green'. At that age I had now idea what that was...

ahhhh the innocent days.

Posted by: Wildman Nov 30 2006, 07:32 AM

Hey Scott, He just showed up in my memory,I couldn't believe that I hadn't mentioned him before as a Michigan rider that raced at Bud's. WM

Posted by: Deanna Nov 30 2006, 09:50 AM

Barlow, Jeffrey's and Bravomalo were my hero's as a local kid.

It was great having some top notch older pro's and experts around to show me the ropes while I was younger.

Posted by: Joe Dunn Nov 30 2006, 10:07 AM

Deanna,

Was that the same Mario Bravomalo racing at the grands ?

Congrats on your win ! Did you also get the #1 plate ?

Joe

Posted by: bkquill Nov 30 2006, 11:00 AM

I'm sure Scott remember's that old track behind Village Bike Shop in Jenison. What ever happen to Kevin Novak, anybody know?

Every year during the 4th of July week I get up back to GR (Kentwood) to see the family and I always take a trip to Freewheeler to see Gordy.

Cheers,
Brian

Posted by: Rob Spencer Nov 30 2006, 02:41 PM

I saw Mario's name in the results and wondered if it was him. How many Mario Bravomalos that race bmx, and are fast could there be?

[ November 30, 2006, 03:43 PM: Message edited by: Rob Spencer ]

Posted by: Wildman Dec 1 2006, 01:56 PM

bkquill,I think it was Kevin Nowak, I remember Gordy at freewheeler, used to stop and see him when in GR on business. Scott, I don't remember riders names, but we used to get a bunch of riders from Billys Bike Shop. I saw a Billys jersey at one of the tours that I rode this summer, guy said that Billy was still"kickin" WM

Posted by: Randy Dec 1 2006, 07:14 PM

get some cocoa, it's storytime....

In 1980 I won the ABA Mich-4 [ Mt. Pleasant and north, including the U.P.] district title, rode my final race of the 1980 season in September. True, there were only about 60 of us racing in district 4 but Michigan like everwhere else was eating up BMX.

We raced alot in 1981, tracks were popping up everywhere, indoor too. I was leading our district points all summer, Fall came and we started going to Bogie Downs. About five of us were battling for the top spots [not a david spotts reference]. We were all pretty good friends and often traveled together across the state but about early November the seriousness of the prize tore into our friendships a bit.

Some of us began seperating from the car pooling network and making the 4 four drive downstate solo to gain points. One week we all showed up, seperately. The parents realized this was silly and we all agreed to get back to car pooling and everyone would have the same chances for points through the rest of the year.

Now I'm not sure if the ABA still ends the points season on December 15th but they did back then. Around early December I was still leading but the margin was narrow, 15-20 points over my friend Matt Rife. I recall calling the ABA asking for updated points, sometimes they would, sometimes not. But we did try to keep track of eachothers points, anyway, Bogie held a "last chance for points" race on the 15th, I think it was a Tuesday, a school night race, 4 hours away. On the last Sunday race Matt's father arrived at Bogie and told us that they were staying down to race on Tuesday, wether we were or not. The battle for 1st was now only between Matt and I and my normal ride was out of the running, they wouldn't be going to the last race. I was beside myself. My folks never drove downstate to races, it was always other familys taking me, I knew they would not hear of this. I was sick to my stomach, Matt needed 20 points to win.

I asked my Dad when we arrived home late Sunday about taking me back down, no way, "you have school, I have work" he said. I went to my room and cried like a baby....seriously. Mom came in and asked what the fuss was about, I told her, she said we'll see if we can work it out but I had to tell my teachers and get homework in advance.

A plan was devised to leave school on the 15th during lunch break for the race and return to school on the 16th at lunchtime so I could sleep in, I was stoked, on cloud-9. When my Mom picked me up at school she had bad news, a winter storm was coming in. She said we would have to turn back if it got bad.

Well, the trip downstate went fine, a few flurries but not bad at all. Got to Bogie and the place was packed, normal turnout for my class in 15x class had been 10 or so but we had at least 30 tonight, Matt had a huge class in 11x too. I could always dominate at "up north" tracks but the compitition was always better downstate, I would always transfer but winning came much harder. This race had me worried I would even transfer, huge class and the pressure was eating at me.

The buzz at Bogie that night was awesome, I remember the annoucer pointing out all the racers in each district that were battling for titles. Matt transfered in his first moto, he looked really good, and cool as a cat.

My moto was stacked, I can't remember all the names but [Brian?] Foshag and Criag Marchbank were two of them, two guys that most always beat me. They both transfered in moto 1 and 2. Six of us with one going in moto 3...I took the win....I was shaking the whole way...shivering right now as I type this. I transfered 3rd or 4th in the semi and Matt won his. The 15-20 point difference ment all Matt had to do was place two better than me in the main to win, and again, that damn annoucer let everyone know, especially me.

Waiting in line along the back wall I watched Matt's main. Matt got a bad start and finished 4th, I needed 6th or better, my gut was tied up beyond belief. The rest of this story is foggy, I know I didn't win the main but whatever position I finished won the district title, I can here the announcer in my head right now screaming my name as I raced that main, he made it feel like 100 raging bulls with flaming daggers were right on my tail.

Waiting at the finish line was my Mom, Matt, his Father Bill and a world of weight off my shoulders. I did it.

When I went out to pack the bike the cars were covered with snow, our trip home took several more hours than normal. I remember my Mom driving 15 mph up I-75, we got home very late, and I thanked Mom.

26 years have gone by and it's snowing outside tonight with mid-December right around the corner. I wrote this story a few years ago in a Michigan thread, I love this story, but my Mother has never heard me tell this story, I think she should know I still get shivers from that night for it was the best day of my childhood, bar-none.

Mom, you have mail.....


Posted by: Wildman Dec 2 2006, 09:30 AM

Cool story! WM

Posted by: bkquill Dec 4 2006, 09:11 AM

quote:
bkquill,I think it was Kevin Nowak, I remember Gordy at freewheeler, used to stop and see him when in GR on business.
Opps, I knew that. How I put a V instead of a W is beyond me, the letters aren't even close on the keyboard.

-bq

Posted by: Tom Erickson Dec 4 2006, 10:31 AM

That story is what I think BMX is for many young riders. Great Story. I think I got shivers from it too!!!

Posted by: Randy Mar 25 2007, 11:59 AM

This has been bumped

Posted by: hemidart1 Mar 25 2007, 05:43 PM

I'll call these "memories of Kinross Michigan"- one of my favourite tracks and was my home track for most of my racing years.




Posted by: hemidart1 Mar 25 2007, 05:45 PM

Actually the first pic is from Charlevoix!!

I'm the geeky kid with the Oakley suspenders.....

[ March 25, 2007, 07:46 PM: Message edited by: hemidart1 ]

Posted by: bike peddler Mar 25 2007, 09:23 PM

Great pictures. I miss the water jumps!

I'm glad this thread has been brought back to life. I'll try to figure out how to post some pictures from bitd.

Posted by: Randy Mar 26 2007, 12:19 AM

Just email them to me if you can get them scanned.

Posted by: REDRIPPER Mar 26 2007, 06:50 PM

Heres a couple of pics from 78 or 79. Bottom pic is of a girl whose name is Cherl. Top pic is of a really kewl guy whose name I cant remember. .These were taken at the Plainwell BMX track

[ March 26, 2007, 09:10 PM: Message edited by: REDRIPPER ]

Posted by: jbros125 Mar 27 2007, 11:51 AM

Was the indoor track in Inkster that used to be a furniture store ever named "FAMOUS" or was it always Champion? I thought it was called Famous after Famous Furniture. That track was a hell hole. LOL

Posted by: Rick_K Jan 8 2008, 12:19 PM

QUOTE (scottTowne @ Nov 29 2006, 06:29 AM) *
Brian Barlow was the Man! Way ahead of his time as far as being an all-around freestyle rider and kick *** racer. Wildman, what is with the Chris Newman reference? did he show up here? I couldn't find it...



Back in 1982 Brian did a Freestyle clinic on a 1/2 pipe they had built in the back. I still recall watching him bust bigger air than I ever seen anyone do on a bike before.. I was 12yrs old and in complete awe watching him.

One time I got there early for race and Brain and Marc Stimer (sp?) were just tearing the pipe up and Brain knew me from “always being at the track” and gave me a few quick lessons. All I remember was “Just Trust yourself and drop in” – That went well. wacko.gif

Posted by: girlyracer Feb 5 2008, 02:39 AM

Was probably famous in Inkster or Crossroads in Hartland or Champion in Ypsi. Sounds like all 3.

Mel


QUOTE (jwahl @ Nov 26 2006, 08:57 PM) *
I remember racing at the Stadium indoor track...It was a real narrow building. Was there "another" stadium indoor? I raced at another indoor that was in a huge building and had a wooden starting hill on to a concrete stretch and finally onto dirt. the rest of the track was dirt.
These are great memories!



Was probably famous in Inkster or Crossroads in Hartland or Champion in Ypsi. Sounds like all 3.

Mel


QUOTE (jwahl @ Nov 26 2006, 08:57 PM) *
I remember racing at the Stadium indoor track...It was a real narrow building. Was there "another" stadium indoor? I raced at another indoor that was in a huge building and had a wooden starting hill on to a concrete stretch and finally onto dirt. the rest of the track was dirt.
These are great memories!


Posted by: Doomkeeper Feb 5 2008, 04:52 PM

The track in Inkster was on Michigan Ave Between Henery Ruff and Middlebelt. It was called Famous Bmx. Their use to be an old hotel furniture store there,Where you could buy used furniture. The owner that turned it into a track never changed the name on the sign. So it was know as Famous BMX. I think it was an ABA track.

Posted by: Deanna Feb 5 2008, 07:46 PM

QUOTE
I saw Mario's name in the results and wondered if it was him. How many Mario Bravomalos that race bmx, and are fast could there be?


I guess I should have checked back on this thread.

Yes the Bravomalo that you see in the ABA standings is the Mario Bravomalo that rode for Smith BITD. He moved down to Texas sometime ago and him and his kids have been tearing it up the past few years on the ABA National Scene. I talked to Mario a few times at nationals great BMX family he has with the kids and his lovely wife.

Mario was one of the first to congratulate me on the NAG #1 at the ABA Grands, which was real cool seeing he was a Michigan native. I talked to Mario again after the passing of Kelly Burnette and I know he has been in touch with a few old timers from Michigan outside of me.

Not sure if you guys remember Larry Miyamoto. He was also a Michigan native and has been up for a few #1's in the ABA for he past few years.

Our BMX roots are pretty deep in this state just add John Tomac to the long list and many others that went on to numerous national titles. smile.gif

Posted by: robert foshag Feb 5 2008, 08:44 PM

Maybe this should be a new post...This is great, i always have big intentions on posting here but it never happens, i cut my teeth on the Michigan bmx scene in the late 70's all the way into the 90's before movin on to other cycling ventures..i just talked to Mike Mchue if you were ever a challange local his name was like a reular there. we have talked about getting areunion together for south earstermi bmxers in the future any takes ..later rob foshag

Posted by: Randy Feb 5 2008, 09:31 PM

Welcome Rob!

I raced your brother Jeff many times, at least I believe he's your brother.

One of my best racing memories could be Jeff's worst, 1982 Michigan State finals, Waterford Oaks, 17x final. Stacked gate including Pat Sheridan, John Cain, Jeff, [the "other" Smith Racing guy?] myself and others, we all had great starts, eight abreast over the first jump, I believe Jeff and I were side by side towards the inside heading for the left turn. Elbows were everywhere, Jeff and whoever was on his left went down eventually taking a few others before turn one. I got through to turn one in first. Still trying to get up to speed heading to the 2nd straight double I was passed by a blue and yellow flash coming high off the top of turn one. Sheridan, I got 2nd, don't recall the rest.

Say hello.

Randy Chamberlain

Posted by: robert foshag Feb 6 2008, 12:22 PM

QUOTE (Randy @ Feb 6 2008, 03:31 AM) *
Welcome Rob!

I raced your brother Jeff many times, at least I believe he's your brother.

One of my best racing memories could be Jeff's worst, 1982 Michigan State finals, Waterford Oaks, 17x final. Stacked gate including Pat Sheridan, John Cain, Jeff, [the "other" Smith Racing guy?] myself and others, we all had great starts, eight abreast over the first jump, I believe Jeff and I were side by side towards the inside heading for the left turn. Elbows were everywhere, Jeff and whoever was on his left went down eventually taking a few others before turn one. I got through to turn one in first. Still trying to get up to speed heading to the 2nd straight double I was passed by a blue and yellow flash coming high off the top of turn one. Sheridan, I got 2nd, don't recall the rest.

Say hello.

Randy Chamberlain

Hey Randy ! I remember you well, as the Northerner who would come down and bang elbows with the other 16X, jeffs my brother..We ventuered up north a few time....we raced a state qualifier in 1980 in Petosky the place was scary..I remember some other northerner's BIM SCALA, John Motarka, and few others, Does Matt rife race mtb's i have seen his name around as im still involved in that..!!


Posted by: jefffoshag Feb 6 2008, 01:19 PM

Hey Randy ! I remember you well, I will never forget that big #1 on that Haro plate. You were always in there mixing it up on the rare occasions that I got to race with you. You always stuck out in the crowd because of that #1. Good seeing your name. Take care.

Posted by: jwahl Feb 6 2008, 02:50 PM

Hey Rob, Good to see you on here. I was lurking and watching this thread to see if anyone from the Toledo/Monroe area would show up. I haven't talked to Mike McHue in years. If there's ever some sort of reunion be sure to post it here. I suspect that there a quite a few more that watch the board but don't post that often.

Back in Dec I had a friend that raced the cyclocross race in Kansas City....Did I see your name in the results too? We were going to go watch the race but we got an ice storm and couldn't make it.

later,
Jim Wahl

Posted by: robert foshag Feb 6 2008, 03:41 PM

HEY JIM!! I talk to Mike MC about twice a month, along with a few others from the red barn era. Im gonna look into gettin something together, I dont know what...ill make sure i keep you in the loop as reunion of this wouldnt be complete without you and a few others. Yea that was me in KC racing cross, whew!!! i didnt realize that the weather in that part of the country could be that cruel..

Posted by: girlyracer Feb 6 2008, 04:08 PM

Hey Jim, why the mean face on your yellow guy. I dont ever remember you having a face like that. Hows it going?

Mel

QUOTE (jwahl @ Feb 6 2008, 03:50 PM) *
Hey Rob, Good to see you on here. I was lurking and watching this thread to see if anyone from the Toledo/Monroe area would show up. I haven't talked to Mike McHue in years. If there's ever some sort of reunion be sure to post it here. I suspect that there a quite a few more that watch the board but don't post that often.

Back in Dec I had a friend that raced the cyclocross race in Kansas City....Did I see your name in the results too? We were going to go watch the race but we got an ice storm and couldn't make it.

later,
Jim Wahl


Posted by: jwahl Feb 6 2008, 05:24 PM

Hiya Mel,
Good to see you on here too. The avatar is my mean alter ego (lol)....It just struck me as funny when I was picking one.

Posted by: jwahl Feb 6 2008, 08:48 PM

Mel,
I'm thinking I might try to make it to Waterford over Memorial Day weekend(....I'm living in NE these days). You should dust off the bike and come play too. Do you ever hear from Heather and Dan Lienerth? I figured you might come accross them once in a while.

Hey Rob...Another Challege rider I've seen recently is Ken Springs. He's racing down in TN. I saw him at Thanksgiving in Morristown but he was all busted up and wasn't racing that weekend.

Posted by: Randy Feb 6 2008, 08:55 PM

Jeff! Mr.Robinson!, Your bikes were always impressive, Welcome to the coolest site on earth.

This plate? [please excuse the trucker Shlitz cap and ghey Bicycle Harbor gear] This in fact was the 1982 Mi. State Race, with Mike Wells.


Rob,

Bim Scala, wow, you got a memory, haven't seen that name in a while. And Jon Kamotorka...he was fast as heck, cool name, especially when he raced a Torker, Jon & Bim were several years younger than me. When Jon was 12/13 he got into some trouble with a girl, in a bedroom, thats all I'm saying, never saw him again.

Matt Rife has been mia, I've searched him out a few times, I'd really like to reach him. I know he has a cousin, David I think that raced MTB in the 90's. The Wells are still around, I saw Mike last year, he still has all his old race bikes, Hutch, Sting, Torker, Robinson...probably hanging in his barn. Shawn Alpers went onto football, stared locally then played at CMU, last I talked to him he was selling Mercedes Benz in Indianapolis.

Posted by: robert foshag Feb 6 2008, 10:00 PM

QUOTE (Randy @ Feb 7 2008, 02:55 AM) *
Jeff! Mr.Robinson!, Your bikes were always impressive, Welcome to the coolest site on earth.

This plate? [please excuse the trucker Shlitz cap and ghey Bicycle Harbor gear] This in fact was the 1982 Mi. State Race, with Mike Wells.


Rob,

Bim Scala, wow, you got a memory, haven't seen that name in a while. And Jon Kamotorka...he was fast as heck, cool name, especially when he raced a Torker, Jon & Bim were several years younger than me. When Jon was 12/13 he got into some trouble with a girl, in a bedroom, thats all I'm saying, never saw him again.

Matt Rife has been mia, I've searched him out a few times, I'd really like to reach him. I know he has a cousin, David I think that raced MTB in the 90's. The Wells are still around, I saw Mike last year, he still has all his old race bikes, Hutch, Sting, Torker, Robinson...probably hanging in his barn. Shawn Alpers went onto football, stared locally then played at CMU, last I talked to him he was selling Mercedes Benz in Indianapolis.



Randy love the old school pic..i have tons of them.. ill have to get access to scanner. as far as my brothers rides they were always trick lookin, for the first 2 years i got the hand me downs which in some case wasnt too bad. except season 1 when he was riding a PK RIPPER, and was suffering with a 35 pound rampar r10..

Posted by: tedr Feb 6 2008, 10:18 PM

Rob Foshag

For some strange reason I remember those stylin wool plaid pants you used to wear in the 90's? Good to see you on here Dude, I see your still fast on an MTB. Where has Jeff Winter been.. is he still riding?

I recently saw Jim Santangelo's name in some Roadie results. Havent seen him in a while, does he race MTB too?


Randy

I dont know about Matt but If your looking for Dave Rife he was living near Howell and racing Monster Trucks last I heard? Its cool how more of the old names keep popping up here.

Ted Ruys


Posted by: girlyracer Feb 6 2008, 11:18 PM

Yes I see them occasionally, not as much this last year though. They have 3 kids now, 2 girls and a boy. Last time I talked to Heather they were thinking of having one more but I havent heard she's pregnant yet so maybe they changed their mind since that was last year sometime. I see Shevona more, she met my brother Dave's best friend at my wedding and they have been dating for about 5 years now and live about 4 miles from me.

I might have to do more than dust off my bike. I need a new one all together. I didnt really like any of the last couple of bikes I rode. Always too long on the back end and it ruined my starts. The last one I liked was my Canondale but it flexed way too much but I guess I liked my Cycle Craft best so I need to find myself one. Unfortunately I gave my last one to Shevona years ago and she isnt giving it up. I do have a brand new set up of wheels collecting dust though so I am half way there.

Memorial weekend sounds great, I hope you can make it, it would be great to see you. Last year Gary Debacker, Colegrove, Shevona, Dan, and Heather were there with their families There were some others too just slipping my memory right now. It was nice, the only thing nicer would have been me on the track...LOL Wish there was some way to get the word out and have a nice little 80's reunion one day.

Are your kids racing still or just you? Do you miss home? I was looking on the ABA and NBL websites last night, I was hoping to find an indoor track closer than the other side of Delaware but no dice. I was ready to jump in the car and take Ty to the track this weekend. Any indoor out your way? To tell you the truth I was having Challenge flashbacks, man I can still smell that place. It was so horrible yet so good.

Mel

QUOTE (jwahl @ Feb 6 2008, 09:48 PM) *
Mel,
I'm thinking I might try to make it to Waterford over Memorial Day weekend(....I'm living in NE these days). You should dust off the bike and come play too. Do you ever hear from Heather and Dan Lienerth? I figured you might come accross them once in a while.

Hey Rob...Another Challege rider I've seen recently is Ken Springs. He's racing down in TN. I saw him at Thanksgiving in Morristown but he was all busted up and wasn't racing that weekend.


Posted by: robert foshag Feb 7 2008, 05:24 AM

TED RUYS!!, hey i think this whole bmx vintage board thing has awaken the sleeping giant!! (in Me of course). Hows that west goin, I come over there a couple times year still for some crits and State RR..Yea I see Jim Santangelo about once a month, he is vying for a spoy on the paralympics squad, I race mainly on the road/cross now and i ran into him about 2 years ago after his accident. I offered up some coaching advice to help him out...Jim hasnt changed much..

JWahl..Ken Spring. yea remember when he would race he would talk to himself all the way around the track, kinda like being his own announcer? wonder if he still does that, maybe that came with thr bandito KIT.

Posted by: riderippers Feb 7 2008, 09:12 AM

Randy,

Is that pic of you and MIke wells from the Cherry Capital race? If so I was younger than Mike but beating his pants off until the last turn, he took first and a seemingly 5 foot trophy. I still have my 7 inch 2nd place trophy lying around!



 

Posted by: Randy Feb 7 2008, 10:41 PM

Nope. Thats at Waterford Oaks, 1982 Michigan State Championships.

And you are? Have we talked?

Posted by: tedr Feb 7 2008, 10:53 PM

Rob

Its cool that your doin the Cycloross thing now, thats fun stuff. I did the Versluis Snowcross a couple weeks ago they had the best conditions you could ask for to race in the snow. I rode a tandem with my 5yr old and followed my 7 yr old on his mini cruiser, we werent exactly fast but it was good fun.

Checkout www.grbmx.com

We are having a spring Cyclocross race on and around the new BMX track site in GR. Rick from Kisscross.com is helping to promote it. Its on Sunday April 13 a week before the Yankee Springs Time Trial hopefully you can come check it out.


Paralympics..?..I guess I never heard about any accident? What happened to Jim Santangelo and how is he doing?



Ted

Posted by: robert foshag Feb 8 2008, 06:49 AM

TED, jim had his pants get caught in the chain over a set of trail doubles, augered into the ground head first and broke his neck. after rehab he is able to walk but with minor limp. He has been doin some track racing and TT's. with expectation of the paralympic team in the summer.... You might see me at Yankee, I got a pretty full schedule of road racing for the 1st part of the season. But i wouldnt mind doin the Yankee TT. Ill have to dust off the old Yeti!

Posted by: riderippers Feb 8 2008, 07:43 AM

QUOTE (Randy @ Feb 7 2008, 11:41 PM) *
Nope. Thats at Waterford Oaks, 1982 Michigan State Championships.

And you are? Have we talked?



Randy, we spoke a couple of months ago briefly; I am still new to the site and navigating around it.
I love it!

I originally found the site by looking for parts to make my old Maximum race ready for my daughter. I have since bought two mini's ( One I always wanted as a kid: Titan) and am working on a preserial Slingshot. Any information on the early slingshots is appreciated. I have spoken to Gordy at Freewheeler and even tracked Mark Groendal down, but have not gotten a response from him!

Posted by: tedr Feb 8 2008, 08:46 AM

Riderippers

I'm curious too...whats your name? It seems like I might know you, if your from the west side and know Gordy and Mark G we have probably rubbed elbows somewhere?

Ted

Posted by: Ted Carr Feb 13 2008, 09:00 PM

Just keeping this string alive. "GO BLUE"

Posted by: borntooloose Feb 14 2008, 06:39 AM

I think I remember throwing out somethng from waterfords national when I helped clean out my parents attic. Funny thing was it was ABA.
Jim Kavalec

Posted by: riderippers Feb 14 2008, 07:52 AM

Tedr,

My name is "Crankin" Chris Campbell, used to run around with Chad Conners & The Contreras brothers in West Michigan. Raced wtih Alpers and Wells up north, Hux brothers in K-zoo.

I raced most venues in Michigan; some in N. In., Wisc and MN.

Just getting back in to the "Habit" over the last few months. I am trying to track down old photos, but my dad was my race crew/ camera man and was soo far ahead of his time he tok almost all his pictures on slides! (Who does that?)

My dad was cleading out a warehouse and found some old trophies from Bogie East, Marx BMX of Holt, and many others including my Cherry Capital race.

Posted by: robert foshag Feb 14 2008, 09:12 AM

Hux brothers? ..i remember a BIG box van , like bread truck that used to hit up all the west side races , maybe it was a shops team truck, but it had stars painted on the side, Timmy hux and guys like Scott Towne. jeff Starbuck? (whatta cool name!)had there name in the stars. I thought it was trick at the time..

Posted by: tedr Feb 14 2008, 10:40 PM

Chris

I remember your name, I was kind of in and out over the years a few times between injuries. I can also kinda remember the box van Rob mentioned.
I see Mike Contreras almost every week at the same restaurant near my office. We both seem to have an appetite for Italian Buffets at lunchtime. No wonder none of my old racing pants fit huh...go figure.

Ted

Posted by: Jim Stinson Mar 2 2008, 08:57 PM

I apologize if this has already been discussed in this lenghty thread but I didn't take the time to look. Anyway, I have a question for you old school Michigan BMXers: I attended an indoor (dirt track) race in MI sometime in the winter of 1981, it took place inside a little coliseum of sorts it must have been sponsored by Mongoose because the front of the gate/ramp was painted blue and it had "Mongoose" painted in white letters. For some reason I'm thinking it was an ABA race but I don't think it was a national. If those facts don't jog your memory perhaps this will: it was the race where a guy jumped over four cars during an intermission (I believe he name was "Jarvis"). Does anyone remember this race and in which MI city it was held? Thanks.

Posted by: Randy Mar 2 2008, 10:42 PM

Sounds like the Rondo Classic but that was in Minnesota. Jim Pratt was a car jumper, I don't recall him jumping at the Rondo nor was Mongoose ever a sponsor of that race.


Posted by: Jim Stinson Mar 3 2008, 06:34 PM

QUOTE (Randy @ Mar 3 2008, 04:42 AM) *
Sounds like the Rondo Classic but that was in Minnesota. Jim Pratt was a car jumper, I don't recall him jumping at the Rondo nor was Mongoose ever a sponsor of that race.


No, it was not the Rondo, I raced that event as well in '81. The guy that jumped the cars was definitely not Jump'n Jim Pratt either.

Posted by: robert foshag Mar 3 2008, 07:01 PM

jim THE mongoose coliseum classic, at the state fairgrounds, I raced you there, It was right after the 1 st of the year, I think we were 12 expert right? we had eddy bauer, jeff Davis from se and some other guys in our class. I still have the T-shirt and the magazine with it in it..

Posted by: riderippers Mar 3 2008, 08:24 PM

QUOTE (tedr @ Feb 14 2008, 11:40 PM) *
I see Mike Contreras almost every week at the same restaurant near my office. We both seem to have an appetite for Italian Buffets at lunchtime. No wonder none of my old racing pants fit huh...go figure.

Ted


Mike's brother Tim has my PK right now getting ready to "address some issues" I need to pull togather some scratch before he starts!

Tim said I should reach out to Mike to paint my Slingshot once it is ready, I have not talked to him yet, but If I can not find a new mid section for the Slingshot, I will probably have him spray it. I wanted to poweder it, but that does not look like it is going to happen.

Where are you finding italian buffet? Jenison?

By the Way, if you know of any forks that fit a Slingshot please forward. The 5" head tube has been a killer.

Thanks,

Chris.

Posted by: tedr Mar 3 2008, 08:57 PM

Chris

I know how to get ahold of Mark Groendal from Slingshot if you need a new board? He might be able to hook you up. I will keep an eye out for the 5" headtube fork but Gordy is probably the best hookup. Some old Redlines used to be 5" headtubes.

Or maybe weld an extension on another fork? If the bike is just for show thats an option... Mark Cramer used to weld for Slingshot and Nukeproof, he now does custom stuff on his own.

The Italian restaurant is on the west side "Salvatore's" on Stocking in GR. Not far from Gordy's.

Ted


Posted by: Jim Stinson Mar 3 2008, 10:09 PM

QUOTE (robert foshag @ Mar 4 2008, 01:01 AM) *
jim THE mongoose coliseum classic, at the state fairgrounds, I raced you there, It was right after the 1 st of the year, I think we were 12 expert right? we had eddy bauer, jeff Davis from se and some other guys in our class. I still have the T-shirt and the magazine with it in it..



Robert,

That's right, now I remember! Do you remember the name of the guy who jumped the cars? Perhaps he's mentioned in the magazine you have? I remember racing all three of you guys, you guys were all very fast!

Jim

Posted by: robert foshag Mar 4 2008, 12:41 AM

im not 100% but i think it was shannon jarvis? it was either friday night b4 the pro spectacular, or saturday evening,
hey jim remember the bike america world cup in Clevelend right around the same time ala indy with wooden jumps etc.. they had all sorts of bike stuff goin on even a indoor velodrome.

Posted by: tedr Mar 9 2008, 07:14 PM

Chris

Stopped at Gordys yesterday and saw a nice old JMC original but all grungy and rusty. It belonged to a guy named Raul who used to race at Wyoming BITD. He has had it in his garage since the 80's and is having it fixed up so he can ride it this year at the new GRBMX track. Gord said he also bought a new cruiser.

I keep hearing about and seeing local old school guys preparing for the new track to open this spring. Pretty cool to see some of them comming back, lots of them bringing their kids too. This spring is gonna be interesting, I guess Its time to get in shape.

Ted


Posted by: radamb Mar 23 2008, 03:47 PM

Wow! Bim Scala, Jon Kamotorka! Those are a couple names I never thought I'd see on here today while surfin around the Net on a rainy Washington day in 2008! I recognize most all of you older guys from back in the day. Kamotorka was my hardest competition by far, I wish I would have gotten the chance to race him more before his misfortune. I never raced Bim but I envied him for his side-hack! JJ Longton was a name I didn't see here? I got my start at the ABA track behind McClains bike shop in 80 or 81 which then became Cherry Capital in a new location. I also raced Charlevoix, Petoskey, Ludington, Kaleva, or where ever I could get a ride. I didn't have much family support and in the later years "84" bought my own side-hack and would ride it all the way across Traverse City with my bike and gear in the hack, race all day, pack it up, and ride it home! I can't believe how much I was devoted to this sport. I still BMX!!!
<a href="http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/radillacman/?action=view&current=P1010020.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/radillacman/P1010020.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
If this works it a couple old trophies I have. One from Cherry Capital and one from Challenge. Thanks for the great memory flash back! I guess I'm a member now?

 

Posted by: radamb Mar 23 2008, 07:30 PM

The B/W photo is the Traverse City Cherry Capital track first turn, when they moved to the new location after McClains. I think it might even be the first ever race there. No clay yet, just sand!

The other two are from Ludington I believe?

I'm not sure if I'm posting these right give me a couple of tries to get it right but I have lots of old school BMX photo's from Northern Michigan. I even have some side-hack racing and some from the Nationals in Detroit.


 

Posted by: Randy Mar 23 2008, 07:31 PM

QUOTE
I guess I'm a member now?


That you are, welcome.

Spare me the guessing. Got a name? We have to know each other...

Randy

Posted by: radamb Mar 23 2008, 07:58 PM

Randy -

Cool thing here! I'm still trying to figure out my way around. There has probably got to be a better way to post photos so they are bigger?

By the way I checked out more postings and did see J.J.'s name up here. He was pretty much my idol back when I was a grom.

You might not know me so much as a BMX kid back in the day, but I went on to do vert freestyle demo's for Kuwahara and Vision. Coached at Woodward for a stint. Then moved on to Snow Boarding.

Adam Brown

 

Posted by: tedr Mar 23 2008, 08:24 PM

Adam

JJ Longton is still around, he comes to all the Michigan State series races. His kids are pretty fast too.

Ted

Posted by: BC34c Mar 23 2008, 08:32 PM

HI radamb, did you race at the indoor track (williamsburg)? if so any pics? I just was over to J.J.'s house last weekend and will be seeing him every week here when race season starts. He has 3 kids that are all into bmx fairly heavy. He still has a folder with all his old receipts and stuff from Se Racing, moto sheets, results ..some other cool stuff. I'm 39 now and only raced at Traverse city track a couple times, raced 1 season at indoor williamsburg track, Mio, and couple at grand blanc, lansing indoor(woodramps,concrete)... I moved from West Branch to T.C. and got to meet up with some of the old names I remembered from racing. Guys like J.J., Randy, Doug Hicks, Roger Barber,shaun Boyd,some others.

Posted by: radamb Mar 23 2008, 09:10 PM

Don't remember ever racing Williamsburg? Just the indoor in T.C.(I have a photo of that one), and Challenge, and another one down state with really really low rafters. Maybe that was Challenge? I have a couple other trophies here on my shelf from Michigan tracks I don't quite remember what towns they were from? How bout' Runway BMX? And another from Lions Country BMX? I have a pretty good size Trophy from FOX BMX in Tiffin Ohio. Must have been a double point or something?

I'll dig threw my stuff when I get a chance. I might have some more News paper clippings and things.


Posted by: Randy Mar 24 2008, 02:02 PM

The indoor TC track was actually in Williamsburg.

Lions Country BMX was Kaleva, the local Lions Club funded the deal, hence the name.

Runway BMX was Ludington, at the airport...aka..runway.

Don't really remember you Adam, the name is familiar, perhaps only from old ABA Action district points results, guess the age difference has something to do with it.

J.J. Longton. I can certainly understand how the younger kids looked up to him, aside from working as a mechanic at McLain's Bike Shop he had the coolest bikes with all the latest trick parts, Reedy, Phil Wood, etc. Sponsorships with Jag then SE Racing always had J.J. in full factory gear...he was Traverse City's ambassador of BMX. J.J. was already racing a year or two before I got into it and a couple years older but continued to a great friend when My buddy Steve Vendeville and I started beating him when our age groups got put together to make motos, can't say I would have handled it as well. Classy guy.

As Ted said, J.J. is active in the sport with his kids, it's cool seeing the 2nd generations out there. My boys and myself did it for a while when TC got back into the game in 1999.

Can't tell you exactly whats going on with your small photos, I use irfanview to edit/crop/size my scanned photos, from there they're hosted on photobucket, hope that helps, I'd certainly like to see more of your pics.

I recently got a email from Matt Rife, not sure if he's a member here, where you at Matt?

More Northern Michigan photos....

1st jump Cherry Capital BMX, Record Eagle photo.


J.J. and myself, Cherry Capital BMX, another Record Eagle photo.


Runway BMX, Ludington, final straightaway, me.


The original Charlevoix BMX track on the lake. Rode up with Craig Wells [no relation to Mike and Tony] who was 16 at the time, I was 14. Their class didn't have enough riders to make a moto so I signed up and raced double class that day. Won my 14x main and ran back up for the 16x and over main. 1st turn action, thats me putting Craig over the berm, won the class and lost a friend that day, never saw Craig race again.


The original Traverse City track behind McLain's shop, me with no plate & tongue waving, Steve #23 and J.J. #59. We're hitting the 1st jump riding the track backwards towards the gate, summer 1979.


Another Record Eagle photo, Cherry Festival 1981, Steve bunny hopping 4-5 guys on Union Street. Mark[?] Ludka on the left, J.J. in the back and Jon Komatorka on the right.


Finally, homage to J.J. He can be spotted in the BMXA photo from the Silverdome race, October 1981, look dead center and over a tad.

Posted by: BC34c Mar 24 2008, 08:29 PM

nice pics Randy.... hey Radamb if you can will you post whatever pics you have of the indoor track? thanks.

Posted by: scottjohnston Mar 24 2008, 10:21 PM

hi all - scott johnston here, never good enough to get a real sponsor, so my brother chris and i created jrp (we made spiders and some frames) and sponsored ourselves -- and i think we may have gotten a few others to wear the green/blue/white for a bit too. thanks for all these posts, i remember lots of the races and names. rob and ed bauer got me into racing - had a great time at the old jackson and lansing tracks, and bogie downs, and the indoor state chanpionship race - is that where jeff wittbrodt beat brian barlow at for the tropy dash, at midnight? remember there was a concrete and plywood track one year - street tires and hairspray did the trick.

i remember curt and eric Andrews from jackson (and randy jackson from jackson), chris jeffrey, mario, andrew soule (he wont remember me but his dad might), fellow crazy inventor tracy nine and his trusty sidekick brian lippens, and matt hornacek (never found u again, would love to catch up), dugan neill ('in cal, we ride on rocks!')

I am in chicago now, jumping mountain bikes off (small) staircases

Posted by: radamb Mar 25 2008, 02:40 AM

Yea, Randy I remember your duels W/J.J.!!! Steve Vendeville comes to mind as well. You guys were goin' fast! J.J. was a funny roll model(very animated), like you said he was affiliated with McClaines which was the hub of the BMX scene in T.C.(he helped cut the tension in a potentially stressful scene, for a kid like myself) I got my Mom to bring me to one of his BMX clinics. Funny to think about now, but it really kinda made my life how it is today??? I help influence kids that way myself now. I didn't really come into my own until the vert days. Thats probably where I should be posting photos/stoires? But my roots are BMX racing!!!

Thanks for clarifying the tracks with the towns. I forgot after all the years?

Once in while I got rides from the Alpers to races. I had to race against Rick, he liked to shove me of the track. I think thats what made me go fast, so he couldn't catch up to me! Cool to hear what Shawn is up to these days. On that note, last time I saw Bim/Ralph was 14 years ago, he was living out here in Olympia Washington. By the way, his sister is the only girl I've ever known who could handle a side-hack!

A couple shots from the indoor track in T.C. I always thought it was Acme? I'll try to find more??? Give me some time to figure the photo's out I'm not computer savvy. Would it be uncool if I reposted them when I get it dialed?

 

Posted by: robert foshag Mar 25 2008, 04:17 AM

scott johnston...heck i made my first expert war of the stars main wearing a JRP jersey on loan from mike chapman back in 86...JRP what you need...if i can ever get to a scanner i have TONS of pics to post..

Posted by: riderippers Mar 25 2008, 07:20 AM

Randy, I have been away from this thread for a bit.

Raoul Rodriguez is the guy I think you are talking about. Last I knew he owned a landscape firm in Grand Rapids (3 yrs ago) and lives of 68th street somewhere. He was older than myself, but I knew him BITD.


Still have not been able to scan my slides. When it happens I will learn how to post photos w/o eating up all my memory!



Posted by: TuRBo Todd Britton Mar 25 2008, 07:29 AM

hey Randy, in today's market, what do you think the value of all that vintage iron in the Silverdome photo is worth?!

Posted by: robert foshag Mar 25 2008, 03:19 PM

wanna get real techie, spot the other elder half of the famous Mi Bauer bros rob bauer and the imfamous OTTO WEYER in that pic, im sure we can pull some more outta there!!

Posted by: n2o Mar 25 2008, 05:34 PM

I sure can remember the days of what seemed to be a million bikes at the races. Rad days, for sure!

My eyes may be playing tricks on me, but as I study that pic of the indoor race I think the kid at the bottom in the Raleigh jersey might be Danny Kunkle (mentioned earlier in this thread). I say that because the guy in the blue jacket to the lower left looks familiar enough to me that it might be Danny's Dad. Could be wrong though.

Posted by: robert foshag Mar 25 2008, 05:48 PM

QUOTE (n2o @ Mar 25 2008, 11:34 PM) *
I sure can remember the days of what seemed to be a million bikes at the races. Rad days, for sure!

My eyes may be playing tricks on me, but as I study that pic of the indoor race I think the kid at the bottom in the Raleigh jersey might be Danny Kunkle (mentioned earlier in this thread). I say that because the guy in the blue jacket to the lower left looks familiar enough to me that it might be Danny's Dad. Could be wrong though.


yea i betcha thats super K too. wheres his GOLD alloy raceincrampar??

Posted by: Deanna Mar 25 2008, 06:52 PM

I see Mr. and Mrs. Winters (Wendy Sue's mom and dad) on the top of the picture in their blue FABMX Jackets.

Posted by: riderippers Mar 25 2008, 08:29 PM

Kevin Pugh in Black helmet white/ black / yellow pants? no he was with powerlite, how about Chad Pitsch? I think he wore those colors.

Posted by: crowdaddy Mar 26 2008, 06:41 AM

I'm still trying to find some pics of the old Olympia BMX track in Lapeer. We have some dirt jumps there now but would love to see some old pics of the track.

Jeff

Posted by: Race Inc dude Mar 26 2008, 01:22 PM

I just moved to the UP of Mi and the closest place to race will be Marquette, which I probablly will not go to. We ned a track in Houghton. Snowmobile season is just anbout wrappin up up here and now I will change gears to bikes again, Lenny

Posted by: Joe Dunn Mar 30 2008, 09:11 AM

Here is a couple of pics.

First one is Melanie Cline (Hi Mel) ABA National North Carolina, I believe 1984.



Next pic is Melanie's brother David Cline. ABA National Michigan State Fairgrounds, I think 1984.




Posted by: Bmx Prof Mar 30 2008, 07:00 PM

Ha. This is some funny stuff. Rob and Jeff Foshag, Melanie Cline and Jim all in the conversation. How are you (collectively)?

Ken Spring here.

First, congrats to Jim Wahl the USAC 36-40 cruiser Champion. Perhaps Dan's will be sending you to China to race for Team USA.

I still race. I turned Vet Pro. BUT I crashed a week before the NBL Grands 2007 and broke my back, 4 ribs, my hand and wrist. So, I've been on the mend. I'll be at the East Coast ABA Nationals at the end of April. And of course, I'll be at the Nashville NBL National. Come on down, the pump track in my back yard should be in great condition as well, and beers and brats all night long.

Over Christmas I ran into McHue and Eric Peterson. We were at a punk show at Frankie's where Malorie Izbinski's band opened up for her father Jim's band. Jim still works at Reggies. Anyway, it was a good time. Great seeing Peterson as well. I meant to grab a bunch of photos from my parents house, I'll grab them and scan 'em next time I'm back. There are some classic pics.

And, no I don't talk around the track. Well, not that often.

Who is N2O and where in TN are you?

Posted by: n2o Mar 30 2008, 07:15 PM

Hey Ken, I'm in Murfreesboro. I grew up in Temperance, Michigan though. I was gonna pm you when I saw you were from Nashville but never got around to it.

I saw a Kappa sticker in a Nashville bar awhile back (Beyond the Edge). Would you be the guy who stuck it on the air duct?

n2o
Jeff Miller

Posted by: robert foshag Mar 30 2008, 07:18 PM

QUOTE (Bmx Prof @ Mar 31 2008, 01:00 AM) *
Ha. This is some funny stuff. Rob and Jeff Foshag, Melanie Cline and Jim all in the conversation. How are you (collectively)?

Ken Spring here.

First, congrats to Jim Wahl the USAC 36-40 cruiser Champion. Perhaps Dan's will be sending you to China to race for Team USA.

I still race. I turned Vet Pro. BUT I crashed a week before the NBL Grands 2007 and broke my back, 4 ribs, my hand and wrist. So, I've been on the mend. I'll be at the East Coast ABA Nationals at the end of April. And of course, I'll be at the Nashville NBL National. Come on down, the pump track in my back yard should be in great condition as well, and beers and brats all night long.

Over Christmas I ran into McHue and Eric Peterson. We were at a punk show at Frankie's where Malorie Izbinski's band opened up for her father Jim's band. Jim still works at Reggies. Anyway, it was a good time. Great seeing Peterson as well. I meant to grab a bunch of photos from my parents house, I'll grab them and scan 'em next time I'm back. There are some classic pics.

And, no I don't talk around the track. Well, not that often.

Who is N2O and where in TN are you?


hey KEN its kinda Toledo reunion, Im doin ok. got kids a college degree thats not getting used traded it for a job in a bike shop....im racing roadbikes in the 1/2 field and cyclocross in the fall tryin to dice with the pros still UGH!! I talk MCHUE about 3 times a month. seen ol BOOMER a few years back...I always wonder where everyon else landed.

Posted by: Bmx Prof Mar 30 2008, 07:42 PM

Jeff

yeah, I have some friends that bartend there and they stuck the stickers up. I was Factory Kappa for a spell (about 3 years). I'm now racing for the 20H/Moto Filler/Clayborn team. Do you still ride? Ever make it to the Nashville track? We should grab a beer. I live right around the corner from Beyond the Edge.


Rob

What bike shop?

I moved to Nashville 10 years ago to do my doctorate at Vanderbilt. I'm now a Sociologist at Belmont University (which is virtually across the street from Vandy). Its a pretty good gig. I focus on Music and Culture. So I go to a bunch of shows and call it research. I worked at a bike shop here while in grad school. Dabbled in a few MTB races, and have a classic steel pinarello that doesn't get ridden nearly enough. I see McHue usually once or twice a year. My brother and I both have some ink from Boomer, but most of my work is from Billy at Toledo Tattoo. Good to hear that you are doing well. What is your brother up to? I saw him lurking on this thread, but wasn't sure how often he posts. I tend to drift on and off. But I'm diggin' the Toledo reunion.

Posted by: robert foshag Mar 30 2008, 07:53 PM

sounds like you got it figured out. i work at a shop on monroe , commute everyday via bike and never regret it..My brother is just living life, raising kids ridin dirtbikes snowmobiles etc...ya know the both of us are out of BMX but were NOT OUT of it, as we always keep up on who's doin what and whats new. we both came back and raced in 1999-2000 when Challenge was breathing its last breath, but the young kids didnt like us there as we were looked upon as old men, even though we were winning motos/mains. at one point it escelated to a near fist a cuffs, and we decided to pull the plug..we went back to mountainbike racing were everyone is too tired to fight....

Posted by: n2o Mar 30 2008, 08:59 PM

Ken, I've hung out with Scott at Kappa a few times. I know he enjoys his whiskey, so I asked him one time if he had been in "Beyond the Edge" and placed that sticker there. He told me you were in these parts so I knew you were factory Kappa. I have one of his Kappa K24Z frames and it rides SWEET!

I don't ride anymore. I joined the NBL 3 years ago and started taking practice laps out at Dixieland, planning on starting racing again. After a couple weeks of getting my legs back I decided to go all out and see what I could do. I hit that first jump and got more air than I had anticipated and overcorrected. My reflexes just don't seem to be as good as when I was a kid, and I hit pretty hard and tore the ligaments in my left shoulder. I missed some work and that pretty much ended my comeback. I haven't been to Dixieland since it changed hands, but I was told it's completely different now. I need to come over and take some easy laps just to get in shape.

You know, Randy Moore is a member here. His Father built Dixieland. Good guy and fun to be around. He was gonna start riding the track the same time I was messing around out there. His daughter seemed to enjoy bmx and he was going to let her give racing a try. I haven't talked to him in about a year or so now.

Take it easy.

n2o

Posted by: n2o Apr 3 2008, 05:45 PM

Hey Mr. Foshag, recognize these guys?

Mike Ensign on the left, Jeff Kunkle in the middle, my brother Scot Miller far right. Mike is holding my Laguna, I'm holding the camera. Don Tucker over Kunkle's shoulder (in all red) and his little brother Eric over Scot's shoulder. Dux racetrack in Toledo (I think).

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm63/jwilmil/kunkle.jpg

Posted by: jwahl Apr 3 2008, 08:00 PM

WOW...I remember Mike Ensign. He's the first kid I ever met at the BMX track. some of my first races were at DUX and travelers.

I went to elementary school with Jeff Kunkle's cousins Danny and Lori. They were the only people at scholl that had any idea what BMX was....

I'm always blown away when pictures like this surface!!!!

Posted by: robert foshag Apr 3 2008, 08:08 PM

MAN THAT IS A CLASSIC PIC!!! its funny Mike was one of, if not the first kids i met too, I was impresed by his robinson jersey...! funny jeff kunkle always seems to run into my bro every couple of years. small world..

Posted by: n2o Apr 3 2008, 08:21 PM

jwahl, who are you? Mike Ensign and I were always hangin' together on our bikes. Our families always travelled together to the races.

Posted by: n2o Apr 3 2008, 08:24 PM

Yeah Robert, I kinda wish your brother would tell Kunkle I said hi, and to get his butt on this site!

Kunkle and Ensign were neighbors and Jeff built a track in both back yards. We had so much fun on and off our bikes!

Posted by: robert foshag Apr 3 2008, 08:28 PM

ill make sure it gets his way...JimW 's parents ran the Toledo speedway track and challenge indoor back 100 yrs ago..

Posted by: jwahl Apr 3 2008, 08:46 PM

I'm Jim Wahl, I met Mike in staging at Dux and we raced a couple of times. Never met him away from the track...He was just the first kid I ever met and his name stuck in my head..we were 9 or 10. My first race ever was at Woodhaven...but I raced DUX and travelers more often. Come to think of it...Mike is the ONLY guy I remember from that first year...weird!!!

I was just telling my 15 year old this story and he was amazed that I remembered who I raced...Some days I have trouble remembering his name. hahaha

Posted by: robert foshag Apr 3 2008, 11:42 PM

I was just telling my 15 year old this story and he was amazed that I remembered who I raced...Some days I have trouble remembering his name. hahaha

DANG JIM, I DONT NEED TO REMIND YOU.... WERE GETTING OLD...i forget my 16 yr olds name too at times, sheeeesh.

Posted by: jefffoshag Apr 4 2008, 10:47 AM

As far as I know, Jeff Kunkle is working at some type of steel mill in S.E. Michigan. That was about a year ago. Kunkle was probably the nicest person I ever met while BMX'n...

Posted by: Bmx Prof Apr 4 2008, 12:11 PM

Hey Jim congrats. Not bad for the cleanest rider on the dirtiest team. I guess that is better than being the dirtiest rider on the cleanest team. Of course I'm jokig around.

I forgot about travelers. I think I only raced there once. Did the Woodhaven track have that big starting hill?

And Lisa, why are you being so modest on here?

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Apr 4 2008, 12:57 PM

I remember all you guys from BITD at Dux, Travelers, Woodhaven. Any body rember racong at Lansing during those years? I just found a track flyer from Lansing 1978. Still living, riding in Toledo Area. Tommy M.

Posted by: Chris S Apr 8 2008, 10:39 AM

I can't believe this thread is still going strong after a year and a half!

Posted by: timh May 23 2008, 07:31 PM

QUOTE (scottTowne @ Sep 24 2006, 10:19 PM) *
Yo! Randy, I love that photo! I'm riding a brass-plated CW cruiser in that photo and when I started racing again in '98 a dude brought it to the Wyoming (RIP) track to show me. It was part for part, identical to when I had it. I wish I had it now, but homie was not giving it up. Redripper, who are you? I'm from Plainwell. Born and raised, knowsayindog?
whats up scott towne its Billy Hux


Posted by: dglschcr May 25 2008, 07:02 PM

I raced in the mid 80's mostly at mid mich. tracks there are a few papers that have archives of the races.but does anybody remeber the Michigan JMC team out of Saginaw.it was owned by Curtis Beckman

Posted by: Tom Perigo May 26 2008, 12:40 PM

Hey Billy Hux remember me. I lived in Plainwell and raced a lot around the area. I'm not sure if Scott is on here that much lately. I think that I still have his email if you want to contact him. He moved back to the Otsego area a while ago.

Posted by: Deanna May 26 2008, 09:24 PM

QUOTE
I raced in the mid 80's mostly at mid mich. tracks there are a few papers that have archives of the races.but does anybody remeber the Michigan JMC team out of Saginaw.it was owned by Curtis Beckman


I totally remember Mr. Beckman. The guy gave everything he had to the sport supporting all the rising stars in Michigan. Unfortunatly I heard he died a lonely death. I'm not sure how much of that is true but I heard it from a few locals. If it's true it's a shame to someone that gave so much.

Jason Rosales (Spelling) was one of his riders and was a regular on the board. He's now living in Texas although I'm not sure how much he chimes in these days. He was racing on a regular basis a few years back.

Another Michigander. Mario Bravamalo has also moved to Texas and is doing well in the NAG rankings. Met his family at the ABA Grands a few years back. Great people and I can't wait to see them again.

Here is the link to Mario's rankings this year. http://www.ababmx.com/index.php?page=default/points&type=NAG

Mario is in the 41-45 cruiser rankings and is leading the title chase.

GOOOOOOO MARIO!

Posted by: jjared May 28 2008, 09:03 PM

I just found 25-35 shots of the Huffy Pontiac race,Grab-on balloon in full flight.It happend to be the only race my sister went to in her whole life,she was a photog for the local paper and gave me all her slides of that weekend.I will figure out how to post some a little at a time. I have some sweet Mich-JMC shots of Nicole Brown racing Wendy Sue at crossroads.

Posted by: dglschcr May 28 2008, 10:02 PM

U sad.gif nfortunately,
Mr.B did die some time ago.I tried to visit him at least once or twice a month.He was a great guy and did what he could for the sport and for his riders,it was my privilage to call him a friend.
Afterthe racing ended he just sort of lost his purpose.I dont think Ron from the bike shop ever called or seen him after that,same for Skid,Shane or most of the guys from the bike shop.I do remember youI think at stadium.Always went buy my nickname "choo choo".Do you ever hear from ay of the other riders from Valley,Stadium,Baja,etc.Did Tomac couple yrs.ago out west I dont think he stopped listening to DEVO..

Posted by: Deanna May 28 2008, 10:18 PM

I just got an email from Brian Barlow. Great to hear from him as I have tried tracking him down through the years. He is much missed as my first hero in the sport. I'll try to get him posting on here more as I know he reads the site. He has a lot of catching up to do!

Welcome to the board Brian!

Posted by: jjared May 29 2008, 08:09 PM

Hey Deanna-if you do by chance hear from Brian,ask him if he wants to trade some sweet chrome ARAYAS for some flexed out campy graphites. Another cool story about the Huffy race.The BMX Action trick team was supposed to perform a freestyle show at the race ,but they could not come up with the time to give them so it did not happen.Sweet thing was they gave me and Barlow the quatrer pipe and wedge.We strapped it on the roof of my 73 buick lesabre and off to Flint.Gary Lowe let us put it at the old Stadium BMX in the corner.Thats how that quarter came to be at that track.When summer came Mr Lowe moved that track outside. We had the ramp in my driveway the whole summer.Had alot of use. Gotta love the story behind the story.

Posted by: robert foshag May 29 2008, 09:04 PM

there was some classic battles back in the day, and if i can be so bold none were as epic as the Brian Barlow/ Jeff Foshag battles of late 80-81, except...maybe mine with Eddie Bauer...great times.

Posted by: jjared May 30 2008, 09:38 PM

Hey Rob you are correct the battles were always rockin between your bro and Brian. Brian and I went to a indoor race on Valentines day in Evansville.He got first in b-pro I raced against your Bro in 17 over expert.Cool thing was I was working on a co-deal with Robinson at the time so it was cool to be in the main with Jeff.I was like this is sweet.I think I got 6th. Cool weekend for Brian.This was just before the Jag deal.He was still rockin the sting with graphites.The ole Vega blue out a bearing on right front wheel ,we had to call the rents for a bail out ride.Ahh memories.

Posted by: robert foshag May 31 2008, 05:47 AM

I remember the Vega,!!!! I was just a kid, I also recal brian having one of the 1st sony WALKMANs, I was so jealous you werent cool if werent cruising the pits without orange foam ear phone..boy how its changed....now its IPODS with 10 jillion songs...

Posted by: toold Jun 17 2008, 11:04 PM

I used to ride the track in inkster alot, never made it to many others (no parental support)..but would bust my [please review the site FAQs] to make race's and practice's.......

Curious if any of the westland "moto-monsters" are around?

Posted by: Joe Tindall Apr 15 2009, 07:15 PM

I have some old bmx pics on my facebook page, check em out!!

I have some old bmx pics on my facebook page, check em out!!
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=9925&id=1621914683&l=12ab6b597a

Posted by: girlyracer Apr 16 2009, 06:57 AM

I don't remember the westland moto monsters though I feel like I should since I grew up in Westland. I was little back so somtimes I remember people but memories are foggy. 2 of the guys I work with were asking me about themabout a month ago, they were all friends growing up. We looked on myspace and found they have a page with a lot of pictures.
Here's the link http://www.myspace.com/xmotomonstersx

Melanie

QUOTE (toold @ Jun 18 2008, 01:04 AM) *
I used to ride the track in inkster alot, never made it to many others (no parental support)..but would bust my [please review the site FAQs] to make race's and practice's.......

Curious if any of the westland "moto-monsters" are around?


Posted by: girlyracer Apr 16 2009, 07:39 AM

Great pics Joe. I have some from that race too. I havent loaded them up yet but I have uploaded some from Champion, Canton Meadows, and a bunch of old school nationals from 82-84 on my facebook page. Not sure if you can see them since my page is private but feel free to friend request me to check them out. If this link works I can post the other folders.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/album.php?aid=53232&id=570056025

Melanie


QUOTE (Joe Dunn @ Mar 30 2008, 11:11 AM) *
Here is a couple of pics.

First one is Melanie Cline (Hi Mel) ABA National North Carolina, I believe 1984.



Next pic is Melanie's brother David Cline. ABA National Michigan State Fairgrounds, I think 1984.



Posted by: Joe Tindall Apr 16 2009, 08:20 AM

My page is set to private too. But It sounds like you were able to view them. I just added a bunch more not sure if you seen them also. Thanks!
Yes I was able to see yours. Really cool! We were at a bunch of the same races bach in the day. Small world eh!
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=9925&id=1621914683&l=12ab6b597a

Posted by: tedr Apr 16 2009, 09:20 PM

Joe

Some great pictures there Dude, Nice to see Kimballs track again too. You probably won more motos at that track than anyone? I definitely remember you being out front of your class all the time.

Theres even a view over your shoulder in one shot of my buddy Doug & I sitting in the back of my old El Camino. That old truck was a blast and that may be the only photo of it around. Good memories!

Ted

Posted by: sleeper Apr 17 2009, 10:55 PM

QUOTE (Joe Tindall @ Apr 15 2009, 08:15 PM) *
I have some old bmx pics on my facebook page, check em out!!

I have some old bmx pics on my facebook page, check em out!!
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=9925&id=1621914683&l=12ab6b597a

Nice pics

Posted by: MichBMX Apr 18 2009, 06:07 AM

I grew up in Inkster and was a Famhole local for sure. I dont think anything happened at that track with out me being there. It was a sh## hole, but it was our sh## hole. Barry nicknamed me Mudpuppy after a crash during the rainy season. If you went in the spring during the snow melt remeber the tarps, buckets, and wet carpet everywhere? I remebr the Moto Monsters very well. I still bump into some of the guys occasionally. Brian Odoms got really into drag racing and had a nice Camaro, a couple of the guys are Bodyman and painters, . One thing for sure was they loved BMX. Those guys were on bikes at all times. I graduated from Wayne High in 87 and most of the guys were a littte older and left in 85 except Darryl Porter. I had him in most of my classes that year. I know he is still around Wayne and is in the collision repair business. I know Famous was like a God send for the kid like us. Many of us had single familye homes or parent that couldnt afford to travel to tracks and that place was our Mecca. I will always be thankful to Barry , some of the best memeoris as a kid were of that track

Posted by: psheridan Apr 18 2009, 06:28 AM

Deanna,

Can you PM me Brian Barlows email address?

Thanks!!!!!!

Posted by: Deanna Apr 18 2009, 12:41 PM

Pat,
I actually do not know it. He PM's me on here the most recent was 2 weeks ago. Your best bet is to contact Mike Caruth and see if he can't email Brian on your behalf to get in touch with him.

Posted by: psheridan Apr 18 2009, 07:22 PM

Thanks Deanna

Send it if you get it first.



Posted by: DavidPieser May 1 2009, 11:49 AM

I came up there from Miami to stay the summer with my GrandParents in Traverse City in the 80's and raced a few race's up there cant remeber where the tracks were but wow what a great bunch of people up there very nice welcome me like I had known them forever I raced a kid who was pretty quick we battled elbow to elbow I think his name was Matt Rife he rode GT or something like that! Good people good times Great summer its was during the cherry fest! I'll never forget it! LOL I came out with a paper plate and kicked butt!

Posted by: Randy May 1 2009, 09:41 PM

Matt Rife rode for Tahoe for a while, maybe Maximum too. But he raced a GT for quite a while.

Posted by: DavidPieser May 2 2009, 07:57 AM

Yeah that summer I was up there he was riding A GT! That was the 1st & only time I met him was that summer!

Posted by: scott28 May 7 2009, 06:13 PM

QUOTE (Keep_It_Warm @ Sep 23 2006, 05:33 AM) *
I raced from 1981 - 1984. Local to southeast Michigan only. Bogie Downs, Bogie East, Mt. Grampion, Waterford, Endless Summer.

My favorite track (maybe because it was the closest track for my parents to take us to) was Bogie East. I also enjoyed Endless Summer, but I can never remember for the life of me where that track was located. I want to say it was in Fraser or Roseville off Utica Road? Maybe Masonic?

I remember not liking Mt. Grampion at all. Only raced there a handfull of times.

My family has misplaced all photographs from that time period, so I have nothing to post, but I hope this thread takes off. Randy and Deanna have a wealth of information and pictures to share.

Tom

Endless Summer BMX & Skatepark was my home track it was located just south of Masonic on Little Mack in Roseville. After they shut down it was a minature golf course and now is a hotel. Man I miss that place good memories though. When I find my pics I post them I have a ton from 82-85.

Posted by: scott28 May 7 2009, 06:19 PM

QUOTE (Deanna @ May 28 2008, 10:18 PM) *
I just got an email from Brian Barlow. Great to hear from him as I have tried tracking him down through the years. He is much missed as my first hero in the sport. I'll try to get him posting on here more as I know he reads the site. He has a lot of catching up to do!

Welcome to the board Brian!

I used to ride at Endless Summer & Bogie with Brian in 84-85. Still got the lawn mower route Brian?

Scott

Posted by: scott28 May 7 2009, 06:22 PM

QUOTE (Deanna @ Sep 23 2006, 09:54 AM) *
adding to the track list:

Stadium BMX in Inkster (ABA Track). This was an old furniture store we raced around twice for a longer track.

Crossroads indoor (ABA Track) and outdoor (NBL Track). Does anyone remember their outdoor track on the other side of US23? An Nbl national was held there back in the 80's. The outdoor track is now a miniature golf course and strip mall.

Endless Summer (ABA Track). I remember spending time there watching the RC cars race and riding in the skatepark.

USA BMX (ABA Track). It was at the corner of Dequinder and I696. It's turned into a industrial park now with a Bob Evans in front. I spent a lot of money playing their video games. Fun place to race and hang out.

Challenge Indoor down at exit 1 at the Michigan/Ohio border. The Wahl's used to run it and it was ABA.
That was a fun track.

Scott

Posted by: Joe Tindall May 9 2009, 07:55 AM

Found a bunch of racing pics from Nettle Downs indoor track at the Kalamazoo Fairgrounds. I believe They are from 82-84. Check out the link and if you recognize anyone comment or tag em.

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=15709&id=1621914683&l=4df45ac904

Also scanned an old news paper article called BMX Reporting by Vern Towne

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=15648&id=1621914683&l=0e2fe63c88

Posted by: BMX TEACHER May 28 2009, 12:34 PM

Is the O-S get together still planned for SAT. Aug 1 at Waterfor Oaks, and is anyone else planning on attending? Just like to know. Tommy

Posted by: Ted Carr May 30 2009, 07:36 PM

QUOTE (BMX TEACHER @ May 28 2009, 07:34 PM) *
Is the O-S get together still planned for SAT. Aug 1 at Waterfor Oaks, and is anyone else planning on attending? Just like to know. Tommy


The O-S get together is still on for SAT. Aug 1 at Waterford Oaks. As far as who will show, I have no idea.
Dugan N. may show up with a bunch of bikes.

Posted by: Deanna May 31 2009, 09:36 PM

I will be there. Just confirmed that Big Jeff Upshaw will be doing the announcing. If you have ever been down to Derby City for Marathon weekend you will no doubt appreciate what Big Jeff brings to the mic. i'm also working on securing lil Jeff Upshaw to do the clinic on friday night.

As far as old schoolers I think you will see many of the usual suspects that were around in the 70's, 80's and 90's.

If your interested in being taugh by Lil Jeff at a clinic on Friday, let me know. He will be in town with his pops crashing at my place.


Posted by: Rick_K Jun 11 2009, 08:09 PM

QUOTE (scottTowne @ Nov 29 2006, 06:29 AM) *
Brian Barlow was the Man! Way ahead of his time as far as being an all-around freestyle rider and kick *** racer. Wildman, what is with the Chris Newman reference? did he show up here? I couldn't find it...



I recall Brian had a "freestyle" clinic at Bogie east one weekend back in 82. For 10 bucks he would teach you how to ride a half pipe... so I paid my $10 bucks and .. well lets just say it did not go well. dry.gif


Any chance I can get my 10 bucks back laugh.gif


On a side note * Does ANYONE Have ANY pictures of Bogie East?

Posted by: toddc Jun 26 2009, 02:21 PM

QUOTE (Chris S @ Apr 8 2008, 11:39 AM) *
I can't believe this thread is still going strong after a year and a half!


I'm glad it is, i've read the entire thread today trying to reconnect with some of the names, but it's been far toooo long. I do remember racing 17x at capital in 85-86 on my patterson pro. I do remember going to jack pine a time or two. Good old days.
Can't wait to get out to waterford next weekend to visit and meet some people.

todd candey

Posted by: toddc Jun 26 2009, 02:32 PM

QUOTE (BMX TEACHER @ May 28 2009, 01:34 PM) *
Is the O-S get together still planned for SAT. Aug 1 at Waterfor Oaks, and is anyone else planning on attending? Just like to know. Tommy


What is this old schooler get together of which you speak?

Posted by: Deanna Jun 29 2009, 10:08 PM

Todc,
I believe you will see information on this thread about the old school show. Waterford Oaks BMX is 35 years old this year and we are having a get together of old school racers from the past on August 1st. Hope to see you and many racers from the past this weekend. Please bring your kids as we need new school riders and they will love the track as much as you did when you were a kid!

www.waterfordoaksbmx.com or PM me for information.

Deanna

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Jul 5 2009, 01:03 PM

Hay D, (or anyone else), I'm not trying to start a rumor, but I understand that this is probably the last year for the Waterford Oaks track. I was told this by a track operator who usually knows this info before it get out. Also herd this by an employee at WO when I was there last week. Anybody else herd this to be true/not? Its hard to believe that this track could be going bye bye. Would be a sad day in BMX if it happens. Tommy

Posted by: MichBMX Jul 5 2009, 07:35 PM

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That will kill BMX in the Detroit area. Very Very Sad

Posted by: Deanna Jul 5 2009, 08:14 PM

Tommy,
These rumors have been running around for years. First it was the Lazy River extension to the waterpark and now the rumor is they want to put the parking/new entrance for the Waterpark where the track is. Realistically this would make sense for the park to do this as the old parking lot is way to small to accomidate all the visitors to the waterpark on a busy day.

With that said, I can't see this happening for a few years atleast until the economy changes. I don't think the park is going to pour X amount of dollars on a money losing waterpark. BMX is also losing money but not at the rate the track is or other things the park invests dollars in. To add a new entrance and down the bmx track along with putting in a parking lot would be VERY expensive.

I believe for now it's just a rumor what would help is for the numbers to increase at the BMX track. What would help is all you old school bmxers to quit playing soccer/baseball mom and dad and bring your kids out to the track to do the one thing you loved as a kid. There is obviously a love for the sport or we wouldn't be on this message board typing about BMX.

It still freaking amazes me how many old schooler riders kids don't race. I say it every year going into the Rockford race as someone is looking at things for their kids to do on the long weekend. Seriously buy the kids a membership and let them play in the dirt racing their BMX bikes. Unless of course the kids have mommy and daddy sold on video games and being couch potato unfit kids..............

Not a hard thing to figure out what would help the sport. Get the kids on a bike at the BMX track.

End Rant.

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Jul 5 2009, 09:00 PM

D sounds like your perspective on the area is right on. I really hope that you're right. I only get up there a couple of times a year, but I would really miss the place. Many memories go with it. Also on the other subject of our kids racing, I have 3 and they all play other sports. BMX is just not what they want to do. They like the school sports with their friends. Its hard to convince them that BMX is better. And I can tell you that the other sports are not any cheeper. So $ is not the reason BMX rider #s are down in this area. D, hope the sholder is getting better, see ya soon. Tommy

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Jul 10 2009, 09:24 AM

Here we go with another date change. Can anybody confirm that the OS gathering has been moved back a week to the 8th of Aug. Thanks Tommy

Posted by: girlyracer Jul 10 2009, 10:36 AM

Yes Deanna called me about it last night. It has been changed to Aug 8th with Aug 7th being a Upshaw clinic.

Melanie


QUOTE (BMX TEACHER @ Jul 10 2009, 11:24 AM) *
Here we go with another date change. Can anybody confirm that the OS gathering has been moved back a week to the 8th of Aug. Thanks Tommy


Posted by: Deanna Jul 10 2009, 11:00 PM

Actually Tommy,
This is the first date change. Because we wanted to make it fun for the oldschoolers and new schoolers who equally have an impact on the 35 years at Waterford we changed the date. I spoke to the board along with Melanie and Dugan and decided it was for the best.

The intent during the winter was to make this a fun race and part of the fun part that I was asked to do was to secure Big Jeff Upshaw as the announcer for the race on Saturday (August 8th) If you have ever done Marathon Weekend at Derby City before the Grands you will understand to have the Upshaws as part of the event was a HUGE treat. We had a scheduling conflict with them and decided to have an extra week to get ahold of all oldschoolers that we could was in the best interest to make this a great 35th anniversary.

The date is set with a Jeffery Upshaw/Tommy Zula clinic at 6pm on August 7th followed up with the race/pro am on Saturday.

Sorry to change the date but we wanted to make sure this was a fun event.

Please check back here and on www.bmxmania.com as Jerry will have the information posted after the Nashville race this weekend.

The clinic will be part of a warm up for Akron which is the following weekend and to fine tune your racing for the NBL Grands.

It's going to be a great event that I hope everyone can/will attend.

Thanks to the board at Waterford for being so understanding on holding everything as one big event was in the best interest of everyone both Vetran to the sport and Newbie. Special thanks goes out to Melanine Cline for working her butt off getting a hold of all the oldschoolers and Dugan for bringing out his huge collection for the event.

As you all should know this undertaking is huge and we want to be able to try to get to as many old riders as possible. Mel has picked up the ball and ran with it. I will try to help as much as possible next week as I just underwent shoulder surgery today. Sorry for all the typo's as i'm a lil bit loopy on the meds tonight after getting tow plates in my shoulder and screws. It's always sooooo much fun typing with one hand!

Word of mouth is most important so please start making calls to everyone you know to get the information out.

Thanks,
Deanna

Posted by: Keep_It_Warm Jul 11 2009, 07:03 AM

Deanna,
Any chance Wally and/or Sherri Borycska (sp?) will be there on the 1st???

I'm in a real jam that day because it is my daughters 5th birthday party.

Posted by: Deanna Jul 11 2009, 09:00 AM

Tom,
Please see my last post. The date has been changed to the 8th which is the following weekend. So your in luck and it will be great to finally be able to talk to you as I'm always racing and don't ever have nearly enough time to spend with the Vintage crew in Rockford.

I have contacted Wally and Sherry and I'm sure Wally will be making it out. He and his parents came out for Kelly's memorial a few years back. Sherry is living out of state so we will be working on her. She's a school teacher down south if I remember correctly.

Posted by: bmxcrusing Jul 11 2009, 09:45 AM

this post is sweet!! just spent an hour reading. didn't see any mention of Joffery John Laffontain Jr., Gordan Gregory, Jim Soffa, Mark "scotter" Dunn, Keith Johnson, Jimmy Johnson, Dan McManaman, Eddie lake, Milton Lake, Jeffery Zengoba, and I remember Todd Lyons Up on Jack Pine a few times too.

Any body remember Zengoba (can't spell) jumping the 3rd turn burm over the rope fence and landing in the spectator aera? That was Jack Pine in I would say 85 or 86.

And what about Bud Jones the gate starter @ Jack Pine?? That guy was great!! lifting the gate every time then yelling "lets do it"!!!


milt

Posted by: MichBMX Jul 11 2009, 01:02 PM

Geoff was racing road bikes back in the early 90's as well as BMX and was in Florida last I heard. Iam looking forward to the 8th. I planned to make a comeback this year but blew my knee up Skating. I should be good enough to pedal around the track. I still have my 83 Kuwahara Lazer Lite and a couple of trophys ( still have my heart of dixie trophy) and tons of magazines. Should be a blast

Posted by: Deanna Jul 11 2009, 01:28 PM

Geff Szengoba is still living down in Florida. Haven't seen him in about a year but he is still around doing what he loves to do best.

You can find him through Facebook or Myspace. He's on both networks.

Posted by: Deanna Jul 13 2009, 06:19 PM

The final flyer is complete. The date is August 8th for the 35th anniversary. August 7th will be a Jeffrey Upshaw and Tommy Zula clinic. The cost for the clinic is $25 and begins at 6pm.

Pm, email or call me if any of you have questions

deannajamieson@comcast.net
247 760 9517

We hope to see everyone at Waterford to celebrate 35 years of BMX!


SATURDAY AUGUST 8th 2009
At Waterford Oaks County Park 1702 Scott Lake Road Waterford, MI
Show hours 10:30am 6:00pm
For more information visit: www.waterfordoaksbmx.com
Phone: (248) 858-0915

Have a vintage BMX bike you would like everyone to see? Participation in the show is FREE
What is a vintage BMX bike? For this show it is any BMX bike that is over 10 years old
FREE Parking & Admission
Vendor space is $10.00 for the day (no food or beverage vendors please)
We will have an inflatable obstacle course and a bounce house for the kids to play on
Onsite concessions stand, picnic tables, and clean restrooms
The Wave Pool will be open (entry fee required)
Reunite with old friends or make new ones
Waterford Oaks BMX getting RAD since 1974

Posted by: Keep_It_Warm Jul 13 2009, 08:40 PM

Nice! August 8th, eh? Looks like I will be able to make it!

Posted by: Deanna Jul 13 2009, 09:26 PM

Tom,
Glad to hear the date now works for you. I'm still trying to make your event at Stoney Creek it all depends on whether i can drive as the doctor hasn't given me clearance as yet. Please let your guys know that are attending your event about the Waterford 35th anniversary a few weeks later.

Give me a call sometime tomorrow I would like to speak to you about your event when you get a chance.

248 760 9517

Cheers,
Deanna

Posted by: BMX TEACHER Jul 14 2009, 02:58 PM

Hay D, I wasn't complaining nor was I directing my "date change" comment towards this event in particular. I was really just saying change in general. Anyway, I am glad that the change was made. It was going to be really hard for me to make the other date. So "thanks". Really trying to bring Kelly to this one, she should have fun being around all the O-S racers. See ya soon.
Anyway how's the sholder and hand doing? I hope that you're healing quickly. Tommy

Posted by: Deanna Jul 14 2009, 04:47 PM

Tommy,
No worries. I just wanted it to be noted that we ran into a snafu on scheduling with the Upshaw's and had to move the date back one week. There is no big races going on that week so it made sense so we could have their involvement in the event (Lil Jeff with the Clinic and Big Jeff on the mic)

Not to mention another week to get the word out on the street along with track down old riders. Both Mel and I have been working our tails off doing this and I can be a lil testy when it comes down to a negative such as the date change when we are trying to put together a great event that Waterford deserves along with the riders in the history and present that were locals at the track.

Hope to see you and Kelly there.

Shoulder is going ok. Surgery was last Friday. Typing is a bit hard at times.

Take Care!

Deanna

Posted by: girlyracer Jul 15 2009, 09:58 AM

If you have facebook you should be able to login and see the event page http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/event.php?eid=97980569619&ref=ts

Trying to contact old schoolers is tough since many have long ago moved and lots of people are turning off home phones. Deanna and I made an event page on Facebook, please feel free to try and do a little search if there is someone you would like to see. I have a pretty good memory and lots of pics to jog it but remember I was 8 back then and who I remember might not be who you are looking forward to seeing. Feel free to use the event page to send out invites also. See you at the track.

Melanie




QUOTE (Deanna @ Jul 14 2009, 06:47 PM) *
Tommy,
No worries. I just wanted it to be noted that we ran into a snafu on scheduling with the Upshaw's and had to move the date back one week. There is no big races going on that week so it made sense so we could have their involvement in the event (Lil Jeff with the Clinic and Big Jeff on the mic)

Not to mention another week to get the word out on the street along with track down old riders. Both Mel and I have been working our tails off doing this and I can be a lil testy when it comes down to a negative such as the date change when we are trying to put together a great event that Waterford deserves along with the riders in the history and present that were locals at the track.

Hope to see you and Kelly there.

Shoulder is going ok. Surgery was last Friday. Typing is a bit hard at times.

Take Care!

Deanna


Posted by: Chris S Jul 18 2009, 06:47 AM

QUOTE (n2o @ Apr 4 2008, 12:45 AM) *
Hey Mr. Foshag, recognize these guys?

Mike Ensign on the left, Jeff Kunkle in the middle, my brother Scot Miller far right. Mike is holding my Laguna, I'm holding the camera. Don Tucker over Kunkle's shoulder (in all red) and his little brother Eric over Scot's shoulder. Dux racetrack in Toledo (I think).

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm63/jwilmil/kunkle.jpg



Where in Toledo was the Dux track at?

Posted by: jwahl Jul 18 2009, 08:43 AM

Dux was just over the state line in MI...by about a block or so I think. It was pretty close to my house in Sylvania. I don't think I could find it today though... It was a motocross track that they used a very small portion of for the BMX races..just two straights long.


QUOTE (Chris S @ Jul 18 2009, 06:47 AM) *
Where in Toledo was the Dux track at?


Posted by: BobCote Jul 18 2009, 10:02 AM

This is a great site. I just connected with a lot of old BMXer's from the 80's on facebook. I'm from Kalamazoo and raced Michigan and Indiana mostly, including Bud's, Red Bud, and Plainwell. Scott Towne and I were rivals in our racing days. He built a practice area at his house in Otsego, MI. For the first time in over 20+ years, I bought a BMX and started jumping again. Great sport that has brought a lot of us together.

Bob Cote'

Posted by: MichBMX Jul 19 2009, 05:15 AM

Deanna or Melanie,
Will there be a " get together" area at the event? I would ask that everybody bring the photos out. I will have pleny of magazines to go over and would love to see some photos of long lost tracks. I also found my old Go Pro Robinson jersey with my race for life patch and an old RG racing jersey. This should be a good time.

Matt Homer

Posted by: girlyracer Jul 19 2009, 11:57 AM

Matt, there is a very large tent near the bathrooms and concession stand. I am guessing it has at least 16+ picnic tables along with ample space between them.

Here is a link to the event that is on Facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=570056025&k=Z61Z36UXRY6BUCBBTA2XTTT

I am currently trying to track down some old racers, wish me luck.

Melanie

QUOTE (MichBMX @ Jul 19 2009, 07:15 AM) *
Deanna or Melanie,
Will there be a " get together" area at the event? I would ask that everybody bring the photos out. I will have pleny of magazines to go over and would love to see some photos of long lost tracks. I also found my old Go Pro Robinson jersey with my race for life patch and an old RG racing jersey. This should be a good time.

Matt Homer


Posted by: AriMclaren Jul 19 2009, 05:10 PM

Aloha, My name is Ari Mclaren I raced in Michigan from 1981-85. I have had so many memories dredge up reading all of your posts. I had a step brother who raced named Tom Glanville. We raced Famous, Waterford Oaks, Milan, Fox Meadows, My recollection is the All my races were NBL. My dad rebuilt the faulty gate at Famous BMX, he installed an electromagnetic gate with a new chritsmas tree. The old gate would periodically send everyone over the bars. I am going to drop a list of racers names. My class 13expert i got the #3 plate in 1985. The guys I raced against were John Maniac Miller, Jason Hill Ralph Farrell, PJ Chandler, Fly'n Brian Norris, I travelled to Ohio, Pensylvania, Indian, Illinois. I remember Barry announcing at Famous and Mr. Upchuck running the gate. I would catch a ride to the races with Bob Chadwick. His son Mike Chadwick was one of my heros. I remember Deanna smoking my brother Torkin Tom. I remember Meliane being amazing. I also remember a little guy named Rogey or Roger Eply? My good friend was two years older than me his name was Dave Patania. He would catch a ride to the races with us whenever he could. I also remember a guy at Famous they called him Tarzan. He could jump out of the building. I was from Ypsilanti I got introduced to racing by Nic and Tim Phillips. I have no pictures from that time but it was great. I still race bikes to this day. I have placed in Downhill races at Norba Nationals and won the State Championship For downhilling in Hawaii. At the end of August we will be getting our only track here in the Islands. Billy Allen is coming out to build it and I will be there with a rake and shovel. I can only hope my son and daugter will get hooked on racing as well. Its been a hard fight to get a track here but I feel like the kids in Hawaii deserve a good time just like all of us had. I have had the honor to race with you world class racers as well as bumping elbows with Brian Lopes, Nico Voullise, Eric Cater, John Tomac, these guys used to come out for the Hawaiian Mountain tour in the early 1990's I was allowed to race with these guys as an amatuer. I hope to qualify for World Master next year for 35-39 wish me luck. Just another ripper from Michigan.

Posted by: girlyracer Jul 19 2009, 07:42 PM

Wow you expanded so many memories for me. I was so young back then that sometimes the memories are vague but I remember flipping Famous's gate more than once and I remember all the guys you mentioned. Thanks for the post wish you had some pics to go with the memories for some reason my mom never thought to take pictures at locals, just nationals. Mr Epley retired from my local so I will have to see if they have a number for him. His son Rogey raced my brother and his sister Christie raced me. Was PJ Bobby's older brother? I remember them both but I cant remember if they were related.

Melanie

QUOTE (AriMclaren @ Jul 19 2009, 07:10 PM) *
Aloha, My name is Ari Mclaren I raced in Michigan from 1981-85. I have had so many memories dredge up reading all of your posts. I had a step brother who raced named Tom Glanville. We raced Famous, Waterford Oaks, Milan, Fox Meadows, My recollection is the All my races were NBL. My dad rebuilt the faulty gate at Famous BMX, he installed an electromagnetic gate with a new chritsmas tree. The old gate would periodically send everyone over the bars. I am going to drop a list of racers names. My class 13expert i got the #3 plate in 1985. The guys I raced against were John Maniac Miller, Jason Hill Ralph Farrell, PJ Chandler, Fly'n Brian Norris, I travelled to Ohio, Pensylvania, Indian, Illinois. I remember Barry announcing at Famous and Mr. Upchuck running the gate. I would catch a ride to the races with Bob Chadwick. His son Mike Chadwick was one of my heros. I remember Deanna smoking my brother Torkin Tom. I remember Meliane being amazing. I also remember a little guy named Rogey or Roger Eply? My good friend was two years older than me his name was Dave Patania. He would catch a ride to the races with us whenever he could. I also remember a guy at Famous they called him Tarzan. He could jump out of the building. I was from Ypsilanti I got introduced to racing by Nic and Tim Phillips. I have no pictures from that time but it was great. I still race bikes to this day. I have placed in Downhill races at Norba Nationals and won the State Championship For downhilling in Hawaii. At the end of August we will be getting our only track here in the Islands. Billy Allen is coming out to build it and I will be there with a rake and shovel. I can only hope my son and daugter will get hooked on racing as well. Its been a hard fight to get a track here but I feel like the kids in Hawaii deserve a good time just like all of us had. I have had the honor to race with you world class racers as well as bumping elbows with Brian Lopes, Nico Voullise, Eric Cater, John Tomac, these guys used to come out for the Hawaiian Mountain tour in the early 1990's I was allowed to race with these guys as an amatuer. I hope to qualify for World Master next year for 35-39 wish me luck. Just another ripper from Michigan.


Posted by: MichBMX Jul 20 2009, 08:11 AM

QUOTE (AriMclaren @ Jul 20 2009, 12:10 AM) *
Aloha, My name is Ari Mclaren I raced in Michigan from 1981-85. I have had so many memories dredge up reading all of your posts. I had a step brother who raced named Tom Glanville. We raced Famous, Waterford Oaks, Milan, Fox Meadows, My recollection is the All my races were NBL. My dad rebuilt the faulty gate at Famous BMX, he installed an electromagnetic gate with a new chritsmas tree. The old gate would periodically send everyone over the bars. I am going to drop a list of racers names. My class 13expert i got the #3 plate in 1985. The guys I raced against were John Maniac Miller, Jason Hill Ralph Farrell, PJ Chandler, Fly'n Brian Norris, I travelled to Ohio, Pensylvania, Indian, Illinois. I remember Barry announcing at Famous and Mr. Upchuck running the gate. I would catch a ride to the races with Bob Chadwick. His son Mike Chadwick was one of my heros. I remember Deanna smoking my brother Torkin Tom. I remember Meliane being amazing. I also remember a little guy named Rogey or Roger Eply? My good friend was two years older than me his name was Dave Patania. He would catch a ride to the races with us whenever he could. I also remember a guy at Famous they called him Tarzan. He could jump out of the building. I was from Ypsilanti I got introduced to racing by Nic and Tim Phillips. I have no pictures from that time but it was great. I still race bikes to this day. I have placed in Downhill races at Norba Nationals and won the State Championship For downhilling in Hawaii. At the end of August we will be getting our only track here in the Islands. Billy Allen is coming out to build it and I will be there with a rake and shovel. I can only hope my son and daugter will get hooked on racing as well. Its been a hard fight to get a track here but I feel like the kids in Hawaii deserve a good time just like all of us had. I have had the honor to race with you world class racers as well as bumping elbows with Brian Lopes, Nico Voullise, Eric Cater, John Tomac, these guys used to come out for the Hawaiian Mountain tour in the early 1990's I was allowed to race with these guys as an amatuer. I hope to qualify for World Master next year for 35-39 wish me luck. Just another ripper from Michigan.


Ari,
Good to see you on here. Remeber our trip to the Heart of Dixie nats in Alabama over Christamas? I was in the same class as Dave ( he was fast ) I wonder what ever happened to him and his Schwinn Sting. He was flying in South Park that year. I ran into Tarzan years ago after he moved back from DC. I was from Inkster as was Paul " Tarzan" and many of the guys from that area got into some bad stuff after BMX and several have done some time in the system. John Miller is racing again and ripping, as is Solan Foster. Ari good to see you are still on 2 wheels. It's hard to get it out of your system. You lie in the Islands, unreal. Do you do any surfing?
Some of those people were good to us kids growing up. Mr. Evanchuck hauled some of us to those Nationals in 84 and Barry always made sure the track was ready to ride and opened it for us to use all the time.Good to see you on here Ari

Matt "mudpupy" Homer

Posted by: AriMclaren Jul 20 2009, 10:30 AM

Yeah, Matt that trip was awesome. I raced novice and got a giant 2nd place trophy. Dave went on to race pro and still rides. He also was a hell of a football player played at the University of Cincinatti and I belive the Bengals. I reconnected with him a few years ago he has a training business and does a column for a paper in indianapolus. I think he may visit me this christmas. I moved to North Carolina when I was fourteen instantly had my new cyclecraft stolen and never raced BMX again. I did however start surfing and that is what led me to Hawaii. I moved here in 1993 to try and turn pro. The competiion was more than I expected to say the least. I still surf once in awhile. However the attitude in the water is negative and aggresive too many rats in the cage. That is why I got into mountainbiking. Everyone is super cool and supportive and lets face it two wheels rule. Oh yeah Dave can be found on facebook under the name Max Parker. His newspaper won't allow them to use there real names.

Posted by: MichBMX Jul 20 2009, 06:48 PM

QUOTE (AriMclaren @ Jul 20 2009, 05:30 PM) *
Yeah, Matt that trip was awesome. I raced novice and got a giant 2nd place trophy. Dave went on to race pro and still rides. He also was a hell of a football player played at the University of Cincinatti and I belive the Bengals. I reconnected with him a few years ago he has a training business and does a column for a paper in indianapolus. I think he may visit me this christmas. I moved to North Carolina when I was fourteen instantly had my new cyclecraft stolen and never raced BMX again. I did however start surfing and that is what led me to Hawaii. I moved here in 1993 to try and turn pro. The competiion was more than I expected to say the least. I still surf once in awhile. However the attitude in the water is negative and aggresive too many rats in the cage. That is why I got into mountainbiking. Everyone is super cool and supportive and lets face it two wheels rule. Oh yeah Dave can be found on facebook under the name Max Parker. His newspaper won't allow them to use there real names.

That is too cool about Dave. I have some photos of us racing together at Waterford. Did he do well as a pro? Does he still ride BMX? We go down to the Outer Banks of NC every year for a week long surf trip. Are you on the Big Island? What do you do over there? It's so wild to see what we all become as we grow up.

Posted by: BobCote Jul 20 2009, 07:59 PM

QUOTE (REDRIPPER @ Sep 22 2006, 11:56 PM) *
I raced at a track near Plainwell which was 15 miles north of Kalamazoo. I raced there between 77-80. It was a great place to race,even got a chance to run with Stu.


As an avid racer at Plainwell BMX track, did you race Stu during the SE classic? I raced Rod Beckering and Steve Maligutti in the 16 yr old class that year and by surprise won...Just curious on your name biggrin.gif Hope to chat more in the near future.

Posted by: BobCote Jul 20 2009, 08:09 PM

QUOTE (Wildman @ Sep 27 2006, 10:10 AM) *
Thanks Deanna, add Bob Cote, and of course Jamson Hendler, There were two brothers from Edwardsburg that were fast, can't remember their names. WM


Thanks Wildman biggrin.gif Because of Facebook, I've been able to connect with a lot of BMXer's...of course, I've been riding with Scott Towne at his track in Otsego. I'm a little rusty after 20 yrs wink.gif

Cheers,

Bob Cote'

Posted by: tedr Jul 20 2009, 09:33 PM

Wow Bob Cote its been a while since I heard that name.

I remember going to your house once with Brent Walk, Steve Johnson & Kevin Nowak. I think Towne was there too, it was around 1980 and you had some major pit jumps on your backyard track. You guys were getting huge air on those things. I remember you were younger than me but you were waay fast. Good to see you on Vintage!


Ted Ruys



Wow Bob Cote its been a while since I heard that name.

I remember going to your house once with Brent Walk, Steve Johnson & Kevin Nowak. I think Towne was there too, it was around 1980 and you had some major pit jumps on your backyard track. You guys were getting huge air on those things. I remember you were younger than me but you were waay fast. Good to see you on Vintage!


Ted Ruys


Posted by: AriMclaren Jul 21 2009, 10:19 AM

Matt, I don't know exactly how Dave did or to what extent he raced. However, Cape Hatteras brings back great memories of road trips and surf. I am lucky to have survived the road trips as a teenager averaging 90mph. I live on Oahu, in a town called Kailua. I started pouring concrete when I was eighteen and now I have my own business called Mclaren Masonry Inc. With the new BMX track and two little kids I hope to soon start Mclaren Racing.

Posted by: Deanna Jul 21 2009, 11:03 AM

Sorry about not replying earlier guys. i just had shoulder surgery and have a few other things going on right now.

Who all is planning on going to Waterford's 35th and August 8th? Hope to see you all there!

Also, as I posted above regarding schedule of events and such if you have any new racers or would like to fine tune your bike skills before the grands we are kicking off the weekend with a Jeff Upshaw/Tommy Zula clinic on August 7th.

Hope to see everyone there and please pass on the word about the weekend.


Posted by: RACEINC43 Jul 22 2009, 11:36 AM

Hey there Michiganders. Just a little heads up for the Michigan " BMX Beach Party" this Saturday the 25th @ Stony Creek Metropark in Shelby Township. The BMX gathering area is at the Baypoint Beach in the park on the grassy area. Time is 10 AM - 4 PM, although last year people stayed later for awhile. There's quite a few people coming from some of the other BMX websites, so it should be a good turn out. This is an "everything" BMX gathering, meaning: oldschool, midschool, newschool, retro, custom, survivor, race, freestyle......anything BMX. No awards or attitudes. Just hanging out and talking & looking at BMX stuff. Even if you don't have a bike to bring, just come out and hang for a little while. Hope to see you there. drinks.gif

Brian

Click on the link below for the official thead with info and directions.

http://www.vintagebmx.com/community/index.php?showtopic=27030661


Posted by: Deanna Jul 22 2009, 12:22 PM

Brian,
Are you guys going to be heading out to Waterford for the 35th anniversary on August 8th?

I know i spoke with Tom and our date change to August 8th worked out much better for him.

Hope you beach bums can all make it to the track with a collection to show off of your oldschool bikes.

Posted by: RACEINC43 Jul 22 2009, 05:15 PM

Hey there Deanna. Yes, I will be out at Waterford Oaks August 8th. And one of my friends should be coming out with me also with at least a couple bikes. I've been telling everyone locally about the Stony Creek AND Waterford Oaks gathering, so hopefully we should have a great turnout at both events. And I'll be telling everyone I talk to this Saturday @ Stony Creek to come out for the Waterford Oaks gathering also. See ya there.

Brian

Posted by: Deanna Jul 22 2009, 08:13 PM

Brian,
I'm going to try my hardest to make it out for a bit to the Stoney Creek event to answer any questions and pass out flyers. I've been telling Tom i will do my best to get out there the past few years but something has always come up. This year it's the shoulder surgery and my lab being possibly put to sleep. It's been a rough month!

See you at Waterford at the VERY Least.

Posted by: BackflipBill Jul 29 2009, 04:20 PM

Does anyone have some pics from endless summer around 81-83? I used to race there when I was about 5-7 yrs old but my parents don't seem to have any pics from then. I would really like to some pics of the track and skate park or the slim possiblity of me actually being in one. I rode a modified huffy frame that my dad extended the forks and rear end on to get 20' blue arya rims and a uni seat. The frame was painted blue and I believe the handle bars were either gold or white. If anyone has some of these pics please post them or email them to lokokool@yahoo.com thanks.

Posted by: girlyracer Jul 29 2009, 05:29 PM

I was 7 in 82 and have some pics from Endless summer, might be winter before I start scanning again though. Summer is way too busy. I wish they were in photo albums I would bring them out to Waterford on August 8th but they are all in shoe boxes. Maybe I can get them organized for next year. What was your last name, I always raced powder puff and open.

Melanie

QUOTE (BackflipBill @ Jul 29 2009, 06:20 PM) *
Does anyone have some pics from endless summer around 81-83? I used to race there when I was about 5-7 yrs old but my parents don't seem to have any pics from then. I would really like to some pics of the track and skate park or the slim possiblity of me actually being in one. I rode a modified huffy frame that my dad extended the forks and rear end on to get 20' blue arya rims and a uni seat. The frame was painted blue and I believe the handle bars were either gold or white. If anyone has some of these pics please post them or email them to lokokool@yahoo.com thanks.


Posted by: AriMclaren Dec 19 2009, 11:13 PM

Well my fellow Michigan racers we now have a good track here on Oahu. After a month of riding around on our mountain bikes my seven year old son and I got BMX bikes for Christmas. We had to get them a little early for good behavior. We both got GT's to support the LBS. My 24" crusier is like a Ferrari compared to my downhill bike. All I have to do is keep it off the guard rail. I just poured the concrete for the start gate so hopefully we will be racing soon. I saw we have a Redline Cup Qualifier scheduled for March. Anyone interested in a spring thaw trip PM me and I will do my best to set you up here in Paradise biggrin.gif

Posted by: sleeper Jan 1 2010, 11:51 PM

QUOTE (girlyracer @ Jul 29 2009, 06:29 PM) *
I was 7 in 82 and have some pics from Endless summer, might be winter before I start scanning again though. Summer is way too busy. I wish they were in photo albums I would bring them out to Waterford on August 8th but they are all in shoe boxes. Maybe I can get them organized for next year. What was your last name, I always raced powder puff and open.

Melanie

Any luck on scanning the Endless summer pics Melanie?

Posted by: Rick_K Jan 2 2010, 07:26 AM

I was told Mark's Stimers (sp?) Parents who ran Bogie East Indoor (81-82) had videos of most every race and the ABA Winter National held there.

If this is true I would be happy to put transfer the tapes to DVD and get each and every old school racer a copy if I could get ahold of them.

Posted by: sleeper Jan 2 2010, 10:20 AM

QUOTE (Rick_K @ Jan 2 2010, 08:26 AM) *
I was told Mark's Stimers (sp?) Parents who ran Bogie East Indoor (81-82) had videos of most every race and the ABA Winter National held there.

If this is true I would be happy to put transfer the tapes to DVD and get each and every old school racer a copy if I could get ahold of them.

I remember they did tape all the races , it would be great to get access to any of those. Maybe someone may know how to reach the Stiemers????

Posted by: Hutchbmx Feb 11 2010, 10:23 AM

QUOTE (Wildman @ Sep 26 2006, 12:33 PM) *
Hey Guys, I can't help but chime in, I know Buds was in Indiana, but only by a couple miles! I couldn't say that we had a majority of MI riders, but we had a pretty good percentage. lets see, I know I will miss a bunch
Scott Towne
Brent Walk
Randy Eason
Gary Payne
Richie Dressen
The Armstrongs
Jeff Starbucks
These were some of the regulars, then at the special events we saw
Deanna
John Tomac
Kevin Collins
Tony Luke
Everybody I missed, Shout out and remind me.

JUST READ THIS....
I won my first national at Buds in Elkhart in 83, sponsored by Hutch. Still have the trophy. I was only 9 and it was bigger than me. Won a few war of the stars races there too. What a great track that was!!!

Wildman


Posted by: Hutchbmx Feb 11 2010, 10:31 AM

Love this site!

I'm Todd Anderson. Raced from 82-89. Home track was Binder BMX in Battle Creek, MI. Was sponsored by Getaway Sports, Billy's Bike Shop, and Factory Hutch. Raced mostly in nationals, but also Plainwell, Wyoming, Jack Pine, Waterford, Hillsdale. What great memories. Can't believe its been more than 20 years since I've raced. My 13 yr old now rides my old 20in Hutch Pro Racer.

Posted by: Wildman Feb 13 2010, 03:21 PM

QUOTE (Hutchbmx @ Feb 11 2010, 05:31 PM) *
Love this site!

I'm Todd Anderson. Raced from 82-89. Home track was Binder BMX in Battle Creek, MI. Was sponsored by Getaway Sports, Billy's Bike Shop, and Factory Hutch. Raced mostly in nationals, but also Plainwell, Wyoming, Jack Pine, Waterford, Hillsdale. What great memories. Can't believe its been more than 20 years since I've raced. My 13 yr old now rides my old 20in Hutch Pro Racer.

Hey Todd, good to hear from you, I know that we had a lot of Mi riders at Nationals and local races. I think 82 was my last active year. I lurk around this web site, can't get it out of my blood. BMX forever at least in our minds.

Posted by: tedr Feb 14 2010, 08:27 PM



Anyone interested in submitting old BMX video footage from the Midwest scene. We are working on putting together some films for next years Old School BMX Film Festival.

I can remember Dick Alpers had the first video camera I ever saw in the early/mid 80's so he is on the list of people to look up. Lemme know if you have anything to submit, we can use clips or even entire fims if you have something put together?

Does anyone know if anyone filmed the Infamous Colesium Classic in Detroit around 1980? The race where Barlow and Whitbrodt each won their Xclass and then did battle in the 14 & Over Open and Trophy Dash mains? That race just stands out in my memory as a great one.

Ted

Posted by: Randy Feb 15 2010, 12:47 PM

Ted-

I got a bunch of Northern Michigan video thats been transferred to dvd.

Posted by: psheridan Feb 16 2010, 12:44 PM

QUOTE (tedr @ Feb 14 2010, 09:27 PM) *
Anyone interested in submitting old BMX video footage from the Midwest scene. We are working on putting together some films for next years Old School BMX Film Festival.

I can remember Dick Alpers had the first video camera I ever saw in the early/mid 80's so he is on the list of people to look up. Lemme know if you have anything to submit, we can use clips or even entire fims if you have something put together?

Does anyone know if anyone filmed the Infamous Colesium Classic in Detroit around 1980? The race where Barlow and Whitbrodt each won their Xclass and then did battle in the 14 & Over Open and Trophy Dash mains? That race just stands out in my memory as a great one.

Ted


Ted,

The only reason Barlow won that expert race is because I slipped a pedal in the last turn.

I'm still bitter about that race. LOL

Pat

Posted by: jwahl Feb 16 2010, 04:43 PM

QUOTE (psheridan @ Feb 16 2010, 12:44 PM) *
I'm still bitter about that race. LOL


...let it go Pat. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: psheridan Feb 17 2010, 12:09 PM

Jim - kiss my rear end you crazy mofo.

Will we see you at the spring Florida races this year?