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Cruiser at the skate park
ebenk
post Nov 3 2009, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE (bob67 @ Nov 2 2009, 11:11 PM) *
so did it ride like a 20" with the high bottom bracket?


It rides very similar to a 20". It feels way more stable in the air than a 20 does, but spinning tricks like 360's feel a bit different at first due to the wheel size. Overall it is probably one of the most comfortable bikes I've ridden in the past 15 years.
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post Nov 3 2009, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE (bob67 @ Nov 2 2009, 11:11 PM) *
so did it ride like a 20" with the high bottom bracket?

Yes, it does. I have a Model-C and a Sunday Funday 20" and the difference in handling isn't too bad. The Model-C just feels a bit more stable, but it is very quick & nimble handling.
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post Nov 3 2009, 04:57 PM
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I've posted these before so apologies to those that have seen them.

(IMG:http://www.ambientebikes.com/images/first-ride-2-550.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.ambientebikes.com/images/first-ride-4-550.jpg)

For me the main difference is knowing the back end is a lot longer. Not a problem with jumping, just when in a bowl, half, quarter etc. For that reason I prefer a 20" in those situations. The 24" is great when you feel like something different or want to combine a bit of a casual cruise with a bit of jumping.
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post Nov 3 2009, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE (bob67 @ Nov 3 2009, 05:11 AM) *
so did it ride like a 20" with the high bottom bracket?


it's hard to say what exactly that means. for a short to medium height rider that feels perfectly comfortable on a 20", then sure, a high bb on a cruiser is great. but for a tall/older rider who likes cruisers in general because of being more "in" the bike than above it (and maybe has always felt a some low back strain hunching on a 20"), then just IMO, the Model C is not the answer. i'd rather ride my S&M Widowmaker.


to design a cruiser for park riding (for guys who actually like cruisers in general), i say raise the bb just enough so that it doesn't hit the coping during 50/50 grinds. so, raise bb height from 11.75" up to a 12.25" or maybe 12.75" at the most.

then, the other thing that can make a cruiser "feel like a 20" is to make the chainstay length the shortest possible. the Sunday Model C has 15" slammed.

but check out this GREG MELMS custom. 13.75" cs. yes 13.75 on a cruiser !!!
(IMG:http://gregmelms.com/SC24/DAILYDRIVER.jpg)
(IMG:http://gregmelms.com/SC24/DAILYDRIVER2.jpg)
(IMG:http://gregmelms.com/BIKE%20PICS/DAILYDRIVERRED3.JPG)

i actually rode this bike at Ray's MTB park a year ago. very quick.

for more on MELMS see http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187985

i rode the We The People Avenue 24" (2009) and i thought it felt rad. easy to manual, easy to 180 and 360.. etc.
(IMG:http://www.evanscycles.com/product_image/image/224/993/625/32909/product_page/wethepeople-the-avenue-24-2009-bmx-bike-24-inch-wheel-.jpg)

thw 2010 Avenue, website says 'now called the Avenger' has a Sunday-style high bb. not sure how high though:
(IMG:http://www.cyclerama.com.au/uploads/images/theavenue24.jpg)

i hope this is not a trend where every street/park cruiser goes with 13.75" just because Sunday did it. 12.75" would be a good middle ground..... whatever people like though....

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post Nov 3 2009, 07:40 PM
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That was a nice post.

13.75 I'm pretty sure would freak me out.
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post Nov 6 2009, 09:49 AM
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Melms stuff is incredible.

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