Guy claims this is a custom PK, Identify this bike? Options

[SE Mark]

Just my 2 cents, that is not a PK Ripper but the welding quality is far better than anything I ever saw in Toys R Us.
The better welders always wanted their welds to look like "rows of dimes" laid diagonally.
The square tubing on the rear is rather unique also.
FWIW I have a later Haro Master that had a chain guard tab on it.
Clean it up and ride it.

Really it's "rows of nickels" not dimes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[azza9]

Just my 2 cents, that is not a PK Ripper but the welding quality is far better than anything I ever saw in Toys R Us.
The better welders always wanted their welds to look like "rows of dimes" laid diagonally.
The square tubing on the rear is rather unique also.
FWIW I have a later Haro Master that had a chain guard tab on it.
Clean it up and ride it.

Thanks for that. The bike is pretty light for all of the steel on it. I'm going to break it down and see what the frame weighs. If it is light enough. I'll collect some parts as I go and build a cool bike for one of the local rats. This was the third trade that started with an 85 Schwinn Ten Speed and I sold half of the second trade and made a few hundred. Took a shot. It looked off to me, but the story got me. Live and learn. I have a 09 FA Eluder with the identical rear. Next time I'll come here first. Thanks, Joel

[CharleyGnarlyP29...]

PK... no. But, even though it has chain guard tabs on it, it does look to be of decent quality. The welds look good, and I bet once it is apart it will be pretty light. Some decent parts on it would make for a great beginner bike. Who knows, might get somebody into racing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[2old4tricks]

that is a 1999 diamond back assault. look in the museum. had one. long top tube, comfee for big guy, very light. cheap bike, i would think that there would be a collectors market even thow its a lil new school. was once a walmart special

This post has been edited by 2old4tricks: Nov 27 2011, 08:52 PM

[2old4tricks]

oops im wrong, bracing near neck is wrong. maybe a hawk?

[oldschooldude]

That is a rhino misfit freestyle bike from a dept store. I have one in my garage that was given to me. Even though it's aluminum it's still a bit heavy. The only thing this and a pk have in common is aluminum. Here is a link to a pic, (not mine)

http://user-agent.org/stuff/images/misfit_rhino_bmx.jpg

[Jet Black]

Good spotting & naming the Rhino OSdude.
It's a shame that the bike was nothing near what the seller claimed it to be , I hope the lesson wasn't too costly &
you can make something useful out of it , azza9.

Everyone wants to make a great score , good trade or unearth something really cool , my rant below might be of some use....

JB


Frame-Spotting made easy.

In order to confirm or deny the epic story told behind a genuine factory special , rarity or "1 of 3 frames ever made" etc etc BITD , _always_ look for the serial number stamped into it or complete lack of serial number on the frame.

ie: I have a Tim Judge Thruster frame , made by Rocket Industries , distinct design features , nice looking welds & no serial numbers stamped anywhere into the frame.

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According to Tim Judge there was _one_ TJ Replica Frame that came out of Rocket Industries that has a T stamped out of the plate behind the bottom bracket instead of the usual O cutout on my frame here.


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On the other end of the stamped serial number spectrum......I've seen a few "001" or odd Serial Numbers that prove a bike frame to be considered rare or special , this one looks too good to be true...

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Sloppy Photo but it reads

BBR 1

JUNE

1980

I have plenty of documentation to prove the SN is legit & chain of custody over the years plus plenty of cool stories of the frames adventures. I put the bike together in late 1981 & it has never been completely stripped back down to the bare frame that was given to me , plenty of part swapping & repairs on this bike over the years


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When buying anything pay the money for what can be proved & documented , lest ye get lulled into the sea by the sweet songs the siren is singing.

[oldschooldude]

Good info there and nice rides too. I'm going to make a neighborhood thrasher out of my rhino.

[SE Mark]

Good info there and nice rides too. I'm going to make a neighborhood thrasher out of my rhino.

Don't believe what people say because even the makers of the frames sometimes don't remember what really happened back then!!! I have seen it first hand with SE Products!!! Scot said one thing and Mike said something totally different!!! Just ask about the serial #'s or even what years they stopped making a design,or started! The riders are just as bad they mix things up more then anybody!

[CharleyGnarlyP29...]

Good info.
Jet Black, your post reminds me of some of the same kind of stuff that goes on in the gun collecting world.
Many times a chap will list a gun, lets say a Luger (everybody knows what a Luger is.) Comes with a description of "grandpa bought it back with him from Germany when he was there in WWII. Took it off of some dead German officer...) blah, blah, blah. Story could be true, but.... It is just a story. No way to prove it. Unless...
When a soldier got a battlefield pick up, he was supposed to have it logged, and he was given what is referred to as "bring-back papers." Documented proof of when and where the weapon was acquired. That scrap of paper adds a ton of value. Proof positive of where it came from.
SE Mark, I hear you on what you are saying. On Joe Kid Scot talks about the STR-1, and how the one he was holding in his hand was the very one that Stu rode at such and such race. It looked like a production Quad to me. The double down tubes terminated at the bottom bracket instead of passing underneath to become the chain stays. I am not saying it isn't true, but I don't remember Stu ever riding a production style Quad. Again, this is just an example, and Scot could be spot on, but who knows. I don't have a clue what the evolution was of the STR-1/Quad, but that could be an example of what you are talking about.