Membership, A Contract is a Contract. Options

[Elvis]

.... in which teh Internets is used to travel the "this deal is too good to be true" to "this deal was too good to be true" continuum.

"I'll sell you all the racing you want, it's brand new and we only want a couple hundred bucks for it. The only trouble is this guy died in it and it sat for awhile and now whatever you do you can't get the dead guy smell out of it, but it's just a couple of hundred bucks."

[IAMRITE]

Just a quick question, why hasn't the ABA acknowledged any of this on their web site? Kind a strange.

[woodybmx86]

Im kinda liking the vibe that's coming across... YOu coulda just NOT raced. all well and fine to say, you could have raced ABA, IF that was a valid argument in the state you lived in... for most, that was not. Shoot, I've got 3 ABA tracks withing 4 hours of me. Closest one is hour and half. I dont race locals for years... so I coulda raced ABA. THis year, first year the schedule was good for it. Every other year that can think of... hitting an ABA national series would end up costing me double than the NBL one. I have even posted on here proposed seasons, and mileage and cost.... one of those chart things.

In the end... the reason most people bought the package, is because they wanted to race. gettin on here and saying, you coulda NOT raced is just rude, and uninformed. Especially when good, solid people believed the plan would work. Shoot, GA still thinks it would have worked, or was working. I dont know.

[AG]

Im kinda liking the vibe that's coming across... YOu coulda just NOT raced. all well and fine to say, you could have raced ABA, IF that was a valid argument in the state you lived in... for most, that was not. Shoot, I've got 3 ABA tracks withing 4 hours of me. Closest one is hour and half. I dont race locals for years... so I coulda raced ABA. THis year, first year the schedule was good for it. Every other year that can think of... hitting an ABA national series would end up costing me double than the NBL one. I have even posted on here proposed seasons, and mileage and cost.... one of those chart things.

In the end... the reason most people bought the package, is because they wanted to race. gettin on here and saying, you coulda NOT raced is just rude, and uninformed. Especially when good, solid people believed the plan would work. Shoot, GA still thinks it would have worked, or was working. I dont know.

I think of it like this;

You invested into something and it did not pan out. Enron folks, insert a lot of other companies here, invested into something and it didn't work out.
You got screwed out of the "all you can race" and they got screwed out of their retirement. All around it sucks; plain and simple.

This post has been edited by AG: May 18 2011, 10:32 AM

[tommydone]

Im kinda liking the vibe that's coming across... YOu coulda just NOT raced. all well and fine to say, you could have raced ABA, IF that was a valid argument in the state you lived in... for most, that was not. Shoot, I've got 3 ABA tracks withing 4 hours of me. Closest one is hour and half. I dont race locals for years... so I coulda raced ABA. THis year, first year the schedule was good for it. Every other year that can think of... hitting an ABA national series would end up costing me double than the NBL one. I have even posted on here proposed seasons, and mileage and cost.... one of those chart things.

In the end... the reason most people bought the package, is because they wanted to race. gettin on here and saying, you coulda NOT raced is just rude, and uninformed. Especially when good, solid people believed the plan would work. Shoot, GA still thinks it would have worked, or was working. I dont know.

when I was very vocal about the new NBL plan and how much I disliked it and how I couldnt afford all of that money upfront, I was told by a ton of people to shut up and just not race. so guess what? I didnt , I bought my son the local plan. The new NBL plan prohibited me and my son from racing regionals/nationals so I have absolutely no sympathy for all of the whining coming from people that put a bad bet on a lame horse,

[joker75]

So let me get this correct. I like analogies since they paint pretty pictures that I can wrap my head around a little bit easier.

So, I buy a ticket on the Titanic. Not just any old ticket, but a ticket for the best room with the all you can eat/drink deal thrown in. Obviously we all know what happens to the ship (Sanction) I chose to support. Well then this other ship happens to be plugging along headed to the same place as my ship that just sank.

Now this other ship (Sanction) obviously has a full load of their own that has paid for their share of the food and living space on it. They can either move along and leave me to drown, or they can stop by and help out those that are floundering. Once they make the decision to assist those left floundering they realistically don't have any obligation to feed or provide housing for the new passengers, but that wouldn't be very nice now would it.

So the new ship within reason rations the food stores that they have to allow the new passengers to survive, and works things out with their paying customers to make housing arraingements for the rest of the trip. The new ship didn't buy the old ship so the passengers contract for a ticket still exists, it just exists with a ship at the bottom of the ocean.

Now how would it look if these people who were plucked from the ocean and given somewhere to rest their heads and even given enough food to survive now started complaining that they were not being housed in the finest rooms or being allowed to eat all of the food that they want and drink all of the beverages they want. It sounds kind of selfish and unreallistic to me. However the complaining passengers now start trying to find a lawyer onboard the new ship so they can show them their ticket contract stating where they are to be housed, and what they are allowed to eat and drink.

I realize this is a big pill to swallow for those of you that bought into the all you can race plan, but if this had been one year earlier and you had raced the races you did you would have used up just as much money as they are going to take off of your credit. If you were one of the lucky ones that ate the crap out of the buffet for the first part of the voyage before the ship sank, you got lucky. If you didn't it still doesn't make sense to think that others should give up what they have to allow you to gorge yourself for the rest of the journey.

Hal

[RandyS]

Just a quick question, why hasn't the ABA acknowledged any of this on their web site? Kind a strange.

Because it's not done. GA issues a press release, webinar, or national schedule before there is anything ready. ABA does not. Gary Aragon will be long gone before ABA offically announces it. ABA will pick up the pieces for the good of their own business and the good of BMX in the United States. He wants people to vote for him to stay on the board afterwards. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[SlowGoin]

Just wondering... Since the NBL name, Logo, non-profit status are all still going to be used by the new group... Than did the NBL really go away...

[tommydone]

Just wondering... Since the NBL name, Logo, non-profit status are all still going to be used by the new group... Than did the NBL really go away...

the NBL is now just a logo and non profit status. nothing more

[zaksdad]

Are you sure, that is what it says? I don't see it on my contract,(Pink copy). I am seeing on #7 (I undrstand that any license issued by the NBL may be revoked, suspend or otherwise made invalid with or witout cause by the Director of Competition or Board of directors, Subject to the Rules and Regulations of the NBL). Where can I find your information?

This really doesn't seem very complicated. You bought license from the NBL. As of jun 1 the NBL licenses are no longer valid. A new license issued by the USA BMX will replace them. The USA BMX does not offer a race all you can option for one low price.

The NBL as a sanction NO LONGER EXISTS once this deal is done. It will simply be a league under the sanction of the USA BMX. The NBL sanction NO LONGER EXISTS. They are caput. gone. fineto.

So if you have an NBL license it is being revoked per the terns of the contract, "otherwise made invalid with or witout cause by the Director of Competition or Board of directors".

Maybe now that BMX has a chance to actually become a real sport someday those old NBL licenses will become valued collector items. I wouldn't throw it away if I had one. I might even buy a few just to put away.