Membership, A Contract is a Contract. Options

[bmxundergrounddo...]

to ask the ABA to put itself in financial jeopardy by continuing a doomed plan is insane. this plan bankrupted the NBL, what do you think would happen if the ABA adopted this plan? the same thing , they would go bankrupt because you cannot sustain any business by paying out more than you take in.

Listen Tommy, I don't want to get in a spitting match with you. I am sure the ABA has the money, or can make the money available to make this work. Put some stipulations in place by all means, make it $4 of payout per race, make it one race a week, but offer something. Putting out the entire membership is not the best way to welcome in a new group to the company.

[tommydone]

just because it has the money doesnt mean it should spend it on something they will recieve no return on. The ABA is a business , they will put out the best product they can. what everyone is asking them to do by continuing that plan really isnt fair to them. NBL riders hould be thankful that they didnt close down tracks and are honoring the money they already spent because they dont have to do that.

[bmxundergrounddo...]

And the ABA should be willing to show some good will while making an investment that will certainly see a return in 2012 and beyond.

For example, make it one race a week, $4 a race to allow us to save face with our brand new riders. We just opened two weeks ago. So, we run for 24 weeks, roughly. $4 a race, 24 weeks. Rough cost is $96 per rider to allow the program to carry out the year. For 2012 we go right into the regular program. Do they operate at a nothing for 2011? Yes. But it will allow continuity until we are united completely in 2012. The ABA stands to make some serious money with a unified sanctioning body next year.

This post has been edited by bmxundergrounddotcom: May 17 2011, 08:31 PM

[bdine]

the fine print of your membership application states that the sanctioning body has the right to refuse the membership, change or alter the membership at any given time.

This is that time, in order to continue offering the nbl racers a membership, they are changing the guidelines of the membership. Legally, therer is nothing you can do about it. its in the contract, and you signed it. they can stop the all you want racing anytime they feel the need.

Are you sure, that is what it says? I don't see it on my contract,(Pink copy). I am seeing on #7 (I undrstand that any license issued by the NBL may be revoked, suspend or otherwise made invalid with or witout cause by the Director of Competition or Board of directors, Subject to the Rules and Regulations of the NBL). Where can I find your information?

[lumpy]

Wait.. You want the ABA to pay you $4 a race?

Brian

[tommydone]

And the ABA should be willing to show some good will while making an investment that will certainly see a return in 2012 and beyond.

For example, make it one race a week, $4 a race to allow us to save face with our brand new riders. We just opened two weeks ago. So, we run for 24 weeks, roughly. $4 a race, 24 weeks. Rough cost is $96 per rider to allow the program to carry out the year. For 2012 we go right into the regular program. Do they operate at a nothing for 2011? Yes. But it will allow continuity until we are united completely in 2012. The ABA stands to make some serious money with a unified sanctioning body next year.

thats fine for your track but multiply that $96 times every member in the NBL. that comes to $480,000 plus the money they are spending to make the merger happen. You have a very tough road ahead of you in explaining this to your new riders , The NBL put you in this situation by instituting a dommed plan.

[brokebmxer]

lets look at it this way
you buy a gift card at store A for $100 they sell stuff at below cost and go bankrupt you now have a worthless gift card. Store B come in and say they will honor that card but they sell their goods at the correct price and that is what you will pay. At least you still get $100 worth but not the $200-$300 you thought you were going to get for that $100

[bmxundergrounddo...]

I just threw a number out there. Anything to save face wtih our new local riders.

Trust me guys, I appreciate what they are doing and I don't want to sounds ungrateful.

As a TO this is just like a bad joke. We sold these memberships 10-20 days ago to a bunch of new riders and it won't be fun explaining to them the merger and the bottom line that they now have enough in their account to race for a month or two rather than the entire season.

If need be, I will all but drain the bank account in order to keep these new kids and their parents coming to the track. I am just hopeful that there is some sort of middle ground. Even if they didn't charge us the sanction/race report fees, that would be an act of good will. That means that I could subsidize the riders racing for the cost of insurance - $1 a race.

[MIKEKW]

They just don't get and probaly never will. Had the ABA not stepped in to pay the bills the NBL would have closed the doors in 1 week. So for them to offer anything is really awsome. They could have just let them crash and would have still picked up tracks that wanted to be sanctioned. Without having to pay there debit. And you whiners woulds have never got anything more out of those memberships.

[mister2dt]

Are you sure, that is what it says? I don't see it on my contract,(Pink copy). I am seeing on #7 (I undrstand that any license issued by the NBL may be revoked, suspend or otherwise made invalid with or witout cause by the Director of Competition or Board of directors, Subject to the Rules and Regulations of the NBL). Where can I find your information?

you just stated it right there, any license issued by the NBL may be revoked, suspend or otherwise made invalid with or without cause. That means they can invalidate your membership at anytime they feel needed. right now, they need to invalidate all memberships for the "all you can race" in order to continue operating. This would be a suspension with or without cause, they cannot sustain operations giving away racing for the remainder of the year. that is just cause to invalidate the membership for restructuring